steviewonder20 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 According to the Hockey Graphs analysis of NHL GMs that was published today, Benning ranks last. They rank drafting, development, salary cap management, trades, UFA signings and ELC signings and compute a final score. Benning was at 31st with Poile, Yzerman and Rutherford in the top three spots. Just sayin'. https://hockey-graphs.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Jim Benning was specified as the worst GM, but not only that, one of the 3 worst drafters... Now I criticize him all the time, but there is no way I can agree with that. The only real miss you could say he's had would be Virtanen... Regardless of how he pans out, that was a bad pick given the success of so many players drafted below him, but I don't necessarily buy that that was his pick anyways. I could TOTALLY see ownership wanting that pick, given the backstory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 2.5/5 for drafting? What? Also, why are they ranking GMs on Development? What do they have to do with that? Isn't that way more on coaches? Not only that, but they weigh development (17%) more than trading (13%). Doesn't make any sense. EDIT: For those who just want to see the rankings: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Rutherford in the top 3 lol. Curious how Joe Sakic finishes ahead of Benning - with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd overall pick in their lineup, a couple back to back top 10 the past two years, a last overall finish this year - and how exactly did they plummet to last overall? Was it a staggering 450 man games lost? Tim Murray five spots better than Benning lulz. How does Chiarelli rank 27th? What a mickey mouse four point scoring system and how they arrived at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 If it wasn't already obvious, read the "about" -- they are anal-itix expertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Its nonsense... While there can be a good case of worst for free agency, its funny how every single group contains a best and a worst, except NCAA, where there only is a best. Think that Benning, could be in that category, but he would definitely not be in the worst category. Team is rebuilding, with basicly nothing on the shelves, when he started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By sea and land Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Virtanen is going to be just fine. Love Benning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 So you're saying hating on the Canucks is still popular? Good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 How is Lou Lam not first overall? He's a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobi Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Not saying that I agree with Hockey Graph but I am guessing that the low marks for drafting is because, besides Virtanen, there's also the miss on Tkachuk. I am not saying OJ is a bust or a bad pick; just that it might have factored into HG's low drafting mark for Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I dont think Benning is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 If one considers the roster and prospect pool from the day he took over compared to now, three years later, by their ranking the team would have to be actually far worse in both. Not sure how that would translate, outside of having zero legitimate prospects and nothing but AHL players on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Who cares what Hockey Graphs says, Benning is doing a good job. He'll prove em wrong in the future. We don't need to worry about what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Wow, 31st? Well, I guess when you look at things from afar, he inherited a team that seemed like a perennial playoff contender with one bad season, and then finished in the bottom three in the NHL two out of three years... As for his poor rating for his drafting...well, I can't say I'm surprised. He has had two top-six picks in his brief tenure, both of whom have already been overshadowed by players picked afterward that he passed on. I have hope for the guys he picked, but it's no shocker that people will look at what has already been accomplished by players he didn't choose with his recent high picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 39 minutes ago, oldnews said: Rutherford in the top 3 lol. Curious how Joe Sakic finishes ahead of Benning - with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd overall pick in their lineup, a couple back to back top 10 the past two years, a last overall finish this year - and how exactly did they plummet to last overall? Was it a staggering 450 man games lost? Tim Murray five spots better than Benning lulz. How does Chiarelli rank 27th? What a mickey mouse four point scoring system and how they arrived at them. And Goofy was the one who gave the scores and ranked the GM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Obviously hockey graphs is biased against the Canucks. Why else would they put Benning at 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Well, Mike Gillis won the GM of the year in 2011, and then fired in 2014. No one thought it was a big deal at the time but his failure to draft well meant our status as a cup contender was short lived. In fact, if he drafted well during 2008-2011 to supplement the lineup, we probably would have won a cup in 2011 and 2012 and would be able remain as a cup contender until probably last season. So a lot of these rankings don't mean much and it's really hard to evaluate a GM's performance, especially drafting. Although I do agree that Poile and Yzerman has done a pretty good job, I disagree that Benning and others ranked at the bottom are as terrible as they say. In fact, Chiarelli is at 27... Like, he got a #1 goalie, an elite defensive defenceman to make their team into a solid 100 pt team. I know that he was gifted McDavid but still, it took some guts to trade Hall for Larsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13371337 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 benning doesn't haven enough autonomy to accurately rank him with the others. For example a guy like yzerman doesn't have an incompetent PR guy with a Veto power over him. to give 1 example: Benning drafts a possible beast (a solid NHLer at a minimum) in tryamkin. he believes strongly enough in him to call him "his bear". enter Linden's coach of the year. Just put your self in tryamkins shoes. You have left a higher paying job to commit 2 years to test yourself in the NHL. put behind your life and family. Only to get benched at the beginning of the season. then after actually proving yourself in the NHL, seeing an insane coach giving the likes of hutton and sbisa more ice time then you. Calgary, and Ottawa were both in a similar situation with their coach as the canucks were with WD last year. both Calgary and Ottawa recognized their coach had taken them as far as he could and made changes. Nice guy linden gave his buddy another year. the rest is history. Yet linden gets absolutely 0 criticism. its all benning. nice guy linden can do no wrong according to his hoards of fan girls. I liked linden the PLAYER as much as any canuck fan. But it takes nothing away from his playing career to admit he is an absolutely clueless, hopelessly incompetent president. He should have some shame and step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I just started a website that ranks hockey graphing websites, and hockey-graphs.com finished last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 They have a contributor from Canucks Army; penibug or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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