goblix Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 First my preface here is that I do love Hutton and the first argument against the below is that he is still on the upward swing and could become more valuable than he is currently. So while I recognize that I will outlay a couple of reasons to trade Hutton. The initial and correct reaction to any Hutton trade is "Why don't we just trade Edler" and while this would generally be a good idea the NTC is a big complication and if you think Edler is a whipping boy for his mistakes whilst being thrust into a #1 pairing role then Hutton will likely easily become the villain in that regard as well. In short I'd argue that if we intend to keep Hutton we need to keep Edler so the youth below him don't have to be dumped on with that kind of pressure in this market while they are developing. Looking at our LHD depth charts it is quite promising. Juolevi, Brisebois are the two big names McEneny, who is quite a nice prospect, reminds me a lot like Tanev in terms of his two-way ability and how quickly he transitions the puck. Pedan and Stewart, long shots but both have some decent wheels and nice size. Could surprise given enough development time. On Pedan, more of a show me now. **Tryamkin is LHD but he prefers to play the right side and while I'm hopeful he'll be back at some point I'm not intending to include him on the depth charts until he does. Hutton does have nice tools, great skater, decent hands and decent vision but they aren't elite and this team really needs elite talent right now. Some players can cut through the ice like butter, ala Karlson, P. Kane and Drouin. Hutton can do that at times but not to the same extent. Hutton is a former 5th round draft pick. Draft position means little to me, yet it does seem good business to move a stock you purchased as a 5th rounder and trade him in for a stock that may have a higher value. Overview: Hutton is a good player but not elite LHD has some nice prospects in the pipeline. Robbing the LHD Peter to pay the RHD Paul may be the correct move. Young roster player would be a great chip to play in a trade scenario, have to trade something good to get something good back There are 5 big time trade targets that will need defense: Buffalo, Toronto, Dallas. Tampa, Philly For Hutton I think Dallas or Tampa makes the most sense. Dallas fans on hfboards seem to think that their LHD is priority 1 which does make sense. Their current depth chart on defense: Lindell - Klingberg Hamhuis - Johns Nameth - Honka Olesiak - Pateryn My guess is that Johns is the most likely target for Vegas, big mobile RHD defenseman. But overall their RHD depth doesn't look too bad. LHD I don't think Nameth/Olesiask is very good and Hamhuis is on the decline. Lindell seems to be on the upswing though. The trade proposal: Van Hutton + CBJ 2nd for Dallas 3rd overall + Lehtonen Dallas would essentially trading down 52 spots for a big time cap dump and Hutton. First impression is that this fits the need for Dallas in three regards. They get a 2nd pick to pick a long term project for the future, move cap tied up into goaltending so they can move that in the UFA market and they get a youthful roster player that will grow with their young team. On Canucks side it does seem to be a hefty price for the 3rd overall but that depends on how highly you think of the 3rd overall or Hutton. On Tanev: Guy is good, if I'm Benning I'm creating a bidding war and a hot market for him. We can wait out the expansion draft to avoid the team needing to use their protection slot which adds to the value. Philly, Toronto, Buffalo are the main markets that should be looking into this player. Philly fans on hfboards remarked their desperate need to find a top 6 center and this draft picking second overall definitely has that talent there, yet will Hischier / Patrick be producing at the level they want them to or will it take 2-3 years to get that going. Their team just missed the playoffs and they have a youthful contributing defense that are hefty in the LHD side. Provorov - MacDonald (LHD) Manning - Gostisbehere (LHD) Brennen - Gudas Gostisbehere is LHD but played on the right due to a need but think he prefers the left side and is better there. MacDonald is a cap dump 5m x 3years and Gudas is decent but not really a top 4 type. The Trade proposal: Van Tanev + Granlund for Philly 2nd overall + MacDonald Philly doesn't get their big time center prospect but they get a roster player center/winger who is young, a great 2-way player who put in 20 goals last year. Tanev bumps Gostisbehere and those 2 become a very good top pair in the league and Philly gets rid of a bad contract. It's quite debatable if Philly is or isn't in a "win now" mode but I think the world of Giroux and would put my money on Provorov and Gostisbehere pushing the team into greatness in the near future. Canuck-wise it's clear we get an elite talent that we can put in the bank. Canucks probably have to sweeten Buffalo has similar problems to Philly. Good young talent but need to insulate them a bit more. Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart and Ristolainen are youthful pieces that want to win now. Gorges - Ristolainen McCabe - Bogosian Falk - Nelson The Trade proposal: Van Tanev for Buffalo 8th overall Buffalo is not trading Reinhart, going to start with that here. Tanev brings a defensive posture to a young team that Buffalo requires. Their RHD depth does seem pretty deep though so maybe they are looking for a LHD dman more? Either way Tanev could still help on that team. Canucks would likely have to add to sweeten Now the likelihood of any of these trades on occurring is close to none but the general idea here is trying to trade nice players for a chance of elite talent and hopefully 1 or 2 of those elite talents turn out to be successful players. Canucks would then draft either: 2/3/5 or 3/5/8 Hischier/Patrick (2) + any two of Hesikenen / Makar / Liljegren for the 3/5 pick or Choose your center at 3 + Makar / Liljegren (5) + Choose your dark horse center pick at 8 Too much debate to decide on the center pool outside of top 2 in this draft. Lastly our defense does get pretty ravaged in trading Tanev and Hutton which looks like: Edler - Stecher Sbisa - Gudbranson Juolevi - MacDonald / Subban / Biega Pedan I apologize for the giant blog here but interested in hearing your constructive thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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