Nuck1991 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 McKenzie on Philip Holm: The report I got is that he’s a real smooth-skating defenceman. Timing is everything; he’s got a goal and two assists today, so suddenly Leafs fans think they’re potentially getting this defenceman who is lighting it up offensively. He’s not known as an offensive defenceman in the Swedish league. His greatest asset is that he’s a real smooth skater, [but he’s] not overly creative and doesn’t play a whole lot of power play time in the Swedish league. [He’s] a mobile, defensive defenceman who has got a really good work ethic. I think one of the things the person who I know in Sweden said about him is that he knows what he is and what he isn’t. He knows he’s not Erik Karlsson so he plays a nice, controlled game, but he’s a real good skater and puck retriever and puck mover. source: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/05/12/bob-mckenzie-discusses-philip-holm-calle-rosen-leafs-defensive-depth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 This could be signs of out with the old (Edler) and in with the new (Holm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Is he good enough to be out top 6?? Better not be another Philip Larsen project plssssss!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just looked at his stats, he had a good year in SHL last year and is 6 ft 1, a puck mover, could be a good pick up. If not, he can just be a Utica signing to help out the team as there will be a lot of young first time pros in Utica next year and Holm could use some of his pro experiences to help the kids. I also wonder what JB see in him which suggest having more potentials than Olson and Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hey, free prospect. I'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Nice freebe pickup there, JB. Always nice to have some depth at d. He must have realized he has a way better chance of playing with the Canucks, over the Hawks. Guy has some skills. Who knows...maybe he ends up a permanent addition to the team. Regardless, it's a 2-way contract, so he'll look great in Utica if he can't crack the Nuck lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Nuck1991 said: McKenzie on Philip Holm: The report I got is that he’s a real smooth-skating defenceman. Timing is everything; he’s got a goal and two assists today, so suddenly Leafs fans think they’re potentially getting this defenceman who is lighting it up offensively. He’s not known as an offensive defenceman in the Swedish league. His greatest asset is that he’s a real smooth skater, [but he’s] not overly creative and doesn’t play a whole lot of power play time in the Swedish league. [He’s] a mobile, defensive defenceman who has got a really good work ethic. I think one of the things the person who I know in Sweden said about him is that he knows what he is and what he isn’t. He knows he’s not Erik Karlsson so he plays a nice, controlled game, but he’s a real good skater and puck retriever and puck mover. source: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/05/12/bob-mckenzie-discusses-philip-holm-calle-rosen-leafs-defensive-depth/ This is actually good. He put up the points he did without substantial PP time while playing a safe game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Hey, free prospect. I'll take it! Yes, he's free, but is he a prospect at 25? Would he not be more of a guy who will be what he is, and not expected to make big improvements like a prospect would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: more like preparing for the loss of Sbisa to expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Nuck1991 said: McKenzie on Philip Holm: The report I got is that he’s a real smooth-skating defenceman. Timing is everything; he’s got a goal and two assists today, so suddenly Leafs fans think they’re potentially getting this defenceman who is lighting it up offensively. He’s not known as an offensive defenceman in the Swedish league. His greatest asset is that he’s a real smooth skater, [but he’s] not overly creative and doesn’t play a whole lot of power play time in the Swedish league. [He’s] a mobile, defensive defenceman who has got a really good work ethic. I think one of the things the person who I know in Sweden said about him is that he knows what he is and what he isn’t. He knows he’s not Erik Karlsson so he plays a nice, controlled game, but he’s a real good skater and puck retriever and puck mover. source: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/05/12/bob-mckenzie-discusses-philip-holm-calle-rosen-leafs-defensive-depth/ OK this is great imo. Guys that know their jobs and focus on that are worth a lot. Malholtra e.g. was that kind of guy for us. I like that he led the SEL in +/-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: more like preparing for the loss of Sbisa to expansion and making it so Juolevi doesn't have to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yes, he's free, but is he a prospect at 25? Would he not be more of a guy who will be what he is, and not expected to make big improvements like a prospect would? You're just never going to be satisfied until all 50 contracts are aged 23 and under, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: more like preparing for the loss of Sbisa to expansion he obviously won't be landing the hits like Sbisa but may be a better skater so who knows, he may be able to land a job in training camp. If Jim can land Raddysh and Kerfoot too now we might see some actual positive eastern media stories on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: more like preparing for the loss of Sbisa to expansion Although we'd want/need to replace the loss of physicality. 1 minute ago, Rick Blight said: You're just never going to be satisfied until all 50 contracts are aged 23 and under, are you? Is he elite? He needs to be elite. We need elite. Can only win with elite. How can we get more elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, Rick Blight said: You're just never going to be satisfied until all 50 contracts are aged 23 and under, are you? Good one, but I don't see this guy as a prospect. I see him as a player on our team, who will be what he is. That's not a bad thing. I see prospects as (certainly) younger players, who will (hopefully) improve to a projected ceiling by age 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Pears said: I'm surprised we actually signed him haha. Didn't think we had a shot against Chicago. Depends, does he want to be associated with the Blackhawks thinkg Erik Gustafsson for example, or have an opportunity to play ? I think with the departure of Tryamkin this minimizes the loss and evens things out. Be interesting to see if Holm can provide serviceable minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Although we'd want/need to replace the loss of physicality. Is he elite? He needs to be elite. We need elite. Can only win with elite. How can we get more elite? Wow! We agree! Yes, we absolutely will not win without some elite talent. This guy is certainly not elite, but he could be a fine bottom pair guy replacing the loss of Tryamkin. Heck, maybe his coming allows JB to trade Hutton for a prospect (forward) who has an elite ceiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, Alflives said: Good one, but I don't see this guy as a prospect. I see him as a player on our team, who will be what he is. That's not a bad thing. I see prospects as (certainly) younger players, who will (hopefully) improve to a projected ceiling by age 25. I see it like Burke describes this kind of thing, a found wallet. In terms of "asset management" landing a potentially solid stay at home D just hitting his prime years for free is pretty much the gold standard of realistic asset management isn't it? He's only 25, same as Guddy, he could still be a piece of the puzzle for the next group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, S'all Good Man said: I see it like Burke describes this kind of thing, a found wallet. In terms of "asset management" landing a potentially solid stay at home D just hitting his prime years for free is pretty much the gold standard of realistic asset management isn't it? He's only 25, same as Guddy, he could still be a piece of the puzzle for the next group. Absolutely! It's like finding a 20 dollar bill under a rock. Although, JB's first few rocks he looked under kind of had nothing under them:( It's good to keep trying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Although we'd want/need to replace the loss of physicality. Gudbranson and potentially Pedan? Considering we can't expect edler to play a full 82 games I'd fully expect Pedan play 20-30 games Edler Stecher Hutton Tanev Holm Gudbranson Pedan Subb's Not a contending D core but still young and has potential to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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