Silky mitts Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Only should be done if we keep the fifth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Little does CDC know that GMJB is actually just working on moving up from #55 to #39 OA.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Benning said last year he wasn't into taking on cap dumps, but maybe he's changed his tune... but no evidence Taking such a contract could be worth two spots if Dallas doesn't care so much where they draft, unless they really want a Heiskanen and figure Colorado might take him. And Benning would have to be convinced he can't get his guy at 5, too. All in all, no evidence just speculation. but, if he can walk into the draft with the #3 and the #5 then that's a whole other ball of wax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I don't know if moving from 5 to 3 is worth it. Unless we keep the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 What bad contract are they talking about? Jason Spezza? He's making $7.5 a year for the next two seasons. Yikes. Or would it be one of their goalies seeing as they got Bishop? I guess with Benn going to make almost $10 million a season starting this year, they'll need to clear cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 And there was Pratt this morning... "Should the Canucks trade their pick with Boeser to move up?" It was Donnie Taylor with "Should the Canucks trade a Bo Horvat with their 6th pick to move up?" in 2014. You go, TMZ -- drum up that "talk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 43 minutes ago, Warhippy said: So wait Canucks would be willing to eat a bad contract and or trade to get the pick, or possibly trade/take a bad contract to move up I was just told none of those scenarios are possible. Who am I to believe? CDC or Pierre LeBrun! I am so confused right now. Im skeptical because there seems to be some bad blood btw DAL and VAN, but if it happens, I hope DAL gets throttled in a trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, SILLY GOOSE said: Im skeptical because there seems to be some bad blood btw DAL and VAN, but if it happens, I hope DAL gets throttled in a trade! As has been posted, the two bigs have started stepping back for their kids. Which is good. When it comes to business, pettiness gets put to the side for profits always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 35 minutes ago, jmahyoung said: We take Lehtonen, and swap the 3rd overall for a 5th. That's probably what Dallas would do. We take Lehtonen, and swap the 3rd overall for 2 2nd rounders. That's probably what the Canucks would do. Maybe move some minor pieces thrown in on both sides. I don't understand why we move up 2 spots to take Lehtonen. I like the 2 2nd rounders one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, stawns said: but, if he can walk into the draft with the #3 and the #5 then that's a whole other ball of wax Moving up is different than acquiring another pick. It would include a swap of picks.... But even that doesn't really make sense. Who is JB concerned that Av's will take a 4 so he can't get at 5. Vilardi or Mittelstadt are the only two that come mind unless he feels Patrick drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, canucksnihilist said: not with Dallas.... if you move up it has to be to #1 or #2 this draft.... or... you move up to #3 but it has to be cheap, as the player you get at #3 will almost have the same shot at making an impact as the player at #5.... total crap shoot. Only #1 or #2 offer a substantial upgrade... that said, if we aquire #3 and keep #5, that would be worth it... but "moving up" suggests parting with #5 on the way I agree with you. There are other things to think about though: 1) I heard perhaps another player like Mittelstadt might squeak into the top 2. I'll believe that when I see it. That would drop either Hischier or more likely Patrick to us at the newly acquired #3 spot. 2) The biggest issue with Dallas is their defense, and I think it is fairly unanimous that centers will be selected through the first few selections so dropping to 5th actually makes some sense to them. 3) Perhaps Benning has a different move up their sleeve. Like get the 3rd from Dallas for our 5th + ________, then flip the 3rd to Philly for their 2nd and we give them a prospect for their forward lines. The pre-draft environment is so fluid, there are so many mix and matches that can occur so who really knows. I feel moving up in the draft is usually more expensive than it is worth, so I'd be very surprised if we actually did move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Moving up is worth so little that unless we're giving up very little (relatively), I won't support the idea of moving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If we keep 5th overall, I'd be happy with that. To TOR: Tanev To VAN: 17th overall, Kapanen Leafs get their man, Nucks get a 1st and a top prospect. May be my bias, but TOR could add here To DAL: 17th overall, Markstrom To VAN: 3rd overall, Niemi, Lehtonen Markstrom may never really be our guy, but he can certainly back up Bishop. Canucks give Dallas 7 million of much needed cap space and get a goalie tandem for next year (so what if they suck, we're going to anyway). I think both are reasonable trades and we get 3rd overall, Kapanen, Niemi and Lehtonen for Tanev and Markstrom and some cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Every year, every GM says they would be open to moving up or down in the draft or listening to offers. We all know how that turns out. Nothing to see here. Response from every GM: We are happy to make our pick at ___ and get a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbdoubleu Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Moving up is different than acquiring another pick. It would include a swap of picks.... But even that doesn't really make sense. Who is JB concerned that Av's will take a 4 so he can't get at 5. Vilardi or Mittelstadt are the only two that come mind unless he feels Patrick drops. I'd guess Vilardi. Big boy. RH Centre. I think it's a steep price to pay, especially because it will jeopardize bringing back Miller (who I think is a great guy to have back, especially in what's going to be a tough year).. but as we all know even if we finish bottom 3 again next year, there's no guarantees where we pick. This might be our best chance to draft top 3. It's a pretty unique situation to have a team like Dallas almost forced to make a move here. I like Vilardi, he could be this draft's Draisaitl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said: I don't understand why we move up 2 spots to take Lehtonen. I like the 2 2nd rounders one though. I'd go after their ANA 1st + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 49 minutes ago, Alflives said: No to 'cap dumps', but we sign Errikson to 6x6? No to 'cap dumps' because we signed Erikkson to 6x6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If they're trying to move up I think it's clear they want a dman that they think the Avs will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Here is what I would like to see ideally, 1) Edler + CBJ 2nd for 3OA + Niemis Contract 2) Tanev to Toronto for their 17th OA pick or wherever they fall in that area (sorry it isn't exact) 3) Trade that 17th pick plus our 2nd rd pick to move up to the top 12? 4) Draft 3OA. 5 OA, and most likely between 7-12. Rebuild is 70% done lol. Draft again in the top 10 next year regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Why would they move up to draft a LHD? I don't get it. Heiskanen is a good skater etc., but so what? We have Juolevi and a lot of LHDs. The only way I see this as a good decision is if VAN trades Heiskanen for Landeskog or Duchene. But that's a risk too, what if COL doesn't want to make a trade? Someone please explain to me why drafting Heiskanen over Vilardi at #3 is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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