Erik Karlsson Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 To Toronto Chris Tanev To Vancouver Kapanen 2017 17th ovr 1st rounder Then To Dallas Luca Sbisa 5th overall 33rd overall To Van 3rd overall Lehtonen Draft Middlestadt/Vilardi with the 3rd. Draft Foote/Vesalainen/Ratcliffe/Andersson with the 17th Depth chart of young players In the next few years if they develop well Dahlen-Horvat-Boeser Baertschi-Middlestadt/Vilardi-Goldobin Virtanen-Gaudette-Kaspanen Granlund-Gaunce-Lockwood Juolevi-Stecher Hutton-Foote Brisebois-Gudbranson -Subban Tryamkin? Demko Plus whoever else we draft/trade for in that time and we're looking pretty decent. If we can somehow get R. Dahlin next year we'd be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Seems a lot to go from 5 to 3. Why not just keep 5 and draft which ever of Middlestadt/Vilardi who's left there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The Tanev deal has been suggested in the past. I'm not sold on giving up assets to move to 3rd . If we move up it needs to be to 1 or 2 . I think we will get just as good of a player with our 5th as we would with the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Seems a lot to go from 5 to 3. Why not just keep 5 and draft which ever of Middlestadt/Vilardi who's left there? I think these are pretty good, yet agree Alf..if we could get the 3rd OA for Sbisa, #5 OA & CBJ 2nd..it's pretty reasonable. If Vilardi's available, I'd prob seriously mull it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just now, Nuxfanabroad said: I think these are pretty good, yet agree Alf..if we could get the 3rd OA for Sbisa, #5 OA & CBJ 2nd..it's pretty reasonable. If Vilardi's available, I'd prob seriously mull it over. I'd only do it for a falling Patrick. Otherwise I'd just stay at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I could see this. Tanev for the 17th and Kapenen. Trade the 17th, Edler for 3OA and one of the goalies...this way Dallas still gets a 1st rd pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just now, PunjabiCanucks said: I could see this. Tanev for the 17th and Kapenen. Trade the 17th, Edler for 3OA and one of the goalies...this way Dallas still gets a 1st rd pick I like this better, because we get 3 and 5 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: I'd only do it for a falling Patrick. Otherwise I'd just stay at 5. These groin issues are quite a deterent. Seems a pretty major red flag. Wonder if he'll fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said: I could see this. Tanev for the 17th and Kapenen. Trade the 17th, Edler for 3OA and one of the goalies...this way Dallas still gets a 1st rd pick Would Edler waive NTC? With Hammy & Kling, might happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just now, Nuxfanabroad said: These groin issues are quite a deterent. Seems a pretty major red flag. Wonder if he'll fall? It's definitely concerning. Hischier has to go first now. I bet Philly goes for Middlestadt. Dallas need D, as does Colorado. Patrick falls to five? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, Erik Karlsson said: To Dallas Luca Sbisa 5th overall 33rd overall To Van 3rd overall Lehtonen Firstly, Sbisa will likely be taken by Vegas. Secondly, a big hell no to trading our 5th overall pick plus what's essentially a late 1st rd pick and swallowing up a nasty goalie contract just to move up 2 spots and still not get one of Patrick or Hischier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: I think these are pretty good, yet agree Alf..if we could get the 3rd OA for Sbisa, #5 OA & CBJ 2nd..it's pretty reasonable. If Vilardi's available, I'd prob seriously mull it over. I don't know? I think 3 and 5 are pretty close...........................I am not adding to get there I would rather move Tanev + plus or Edler + plus to Buffalo or Arizona for the 7th or 8th OA I think we get better returns at 5th OA + 7/8th OA, as we would at 3rd OA and 17th OA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I don't know? I think 3 and 5 are pretty close...........................I am not adding to get there I would rather move Tanev + plus or Edler + plus to Buffalo or Arizona for the 7th or 8th OA I think we get better returns at 5th OA + 7/8th OA, as we would at 3rd OA and 17th OA Yes Jan, agree we should look comparatively at as many top-10 options as we can get near. Regarding all these offers, I'd agree to be slightly more generous, if it's prior to the ED that such deals are executed. Working on the premise, that it's one less asset to protect. In fact(since we don't have a deep NHL roster), I'd say that's when they should try to swing an extra deal, or two. Capitalize on GM's that feel they're going to lose a good player in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 43 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said: I could see this. Tanev for the 17th and Kapenen. Trade the 17th, Edler for 3OA and one of the goalies...this way Dallas still gets a 1st rd pick you would trade our #1 and #2 dmen to get the 3OA pick in a weaker draft???? cdc usually over rates our players you completely overrate the value of the #3OA who is just a prospect.. .not a proven nhl player edit: kapanen kinda just cancels out the goalie anchor/contract dump you also want the nucks to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 If, and it is a big if, you can get Toronto to give us Kapanen and their 1st for Tanev then you take it and run. You now have the 5th, 17th and 33rd picks plus a former 1st round pick who is developing very well. This would be a huge addition to our prospect pool and would be a major step in getting this franchise back to respectability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The only way I trade Tanev to Toronto is if Nylander is coming our way, even if we have to add within reason. They have so many young wingers, taking one for anything at market value would be a favour. On the right side they have: Nylander, Marner, Brown, Leivo, Hyman, Leipsic, Smith, Soshnikov, Griffiths, Kapanen and Bracco. If they want a premium shut down defenseman, I want the player that's already established (moreso than Kapanen at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotch_Crescent Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 17 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: The only way I trade Tanev to Toronto is if Nylander is coming our way, even if we have to add within reason. They have so many young wingers, taking one for anything at market value would be a favour. On the right side they have: Nylander, Marner, Brown, Leivo, Hyman, Leipsic, Smith, Soshnikov, Griffiths, Kapanen and Bracco. If they want a premium shut down defenseman, I want the player that's already established (moreso than Kapanen at least). They will hang up if we ask for Nylander. Not even sure they will offer kapanen plus 1st for tanev, but if they do take it an run! If they are trading Nylander they will aim at Ekman Larson, Justin Faulk, or Jacob Trouba which are all a tier higher than Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Why do we help TO in the first place? We hate those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Noble 6 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Crotch_Crescent said: They will hang up if we ask for Nylander. Not even sure they will offer kapanen plus 1st for tanev, but if they do take it an run! If they are trading Nylander they will aim at Ekman Larson, Justin Faulk, or Jacob Trouba which are all a tier higher than Tanev. Those guys are all less likely to be available than Tanev. You are right though. That's why I think a deal with Toronto is not as likely as some other possible suitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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