[proposal] Van-Dal-Col

[Smegna]

I wonder if we can take advantage of Colorado being desperate for D. 

 

TO VAN:

3rd Overall

Niemi

 

TO DAL:

Tanev

33rd Overall

55th Overall

 

This is the rumoured price for the 3rd pick, as i would rather not give up both second rounders i think we can get one back quite easily. WE leverage the 3rd overall pick to colorado who im sure wants Heiskanen. Heiskanen would be redundant with Juolevi coming up, as i see them being very similar. Never a bad thing to have two D men like that but a dynamic player like Makar might compliment Juolevi better. We also have the freedom to keep this pick if one of patrick or hischier fall to 3. I think there is a real chance Patrick falls to 3 and then the colorado trade goes out the window but we are still looking good.

 

To VAN:

4th Overall

32nd Overall

 

To Col:

3rd Overall

 

So after that we end up with 4th & 5th Overall, a back up goaltender to help markstrom until Demko is ready, and actually move up one spot in the second round but lets call it a wash. And all we end up paying is Tanev & the 55th overall (which is free money, because honestly its a joke we get anything from losing Torts).

 

So we get our pick of all the remaining centres (Vilardi, Middlestadt, & Glass) at 4 and then can take a D at 5 (Makar) or trade down a few spots if Makar will still be there and possibly pick up another late first or second rounder as well.

 

Let me know what you guys think, this is my first proposal.

[timberz21]

15 minutes ago, Smegna said:

I wonder if we can take advantage of Colorado being desperate for D. 

 

TO VAN:

3rd Overall

Niemi

 

TO DAL:

Tanev

33rd Overall

55th Overall

 

This is the rumoured price for the 3rd pick, as i would rather not give up both second rounders i think we can get one back quite easily. WE leverage the 3rd overall pick to colorado who im sure wants Heiskanen. Heiskanen would be redundant with Juolevi coming up, as i see them being very similar. Never a bad thing to have two D men like that but a dynamic player like Makar might compliment Juolevi better. We also have the freedom to keep this pick if one of patrick or hischier fall to 3. I think there is a real chance Patrick falls to 3 and then the colorado trade goes out the window but we are still looking good.

 

To VAN:

4th Overall

32nd Overall

 

To Col:

3rd Overall

 

So after that we end up with 4th & 5th Overall, a back up goaltender to help markstrom until Demko is ready, and actually move up one spot in the second round but lets call it a wash. And all we end up paying is Tanev & the 55th overall (which is free money, because honestly its a joke we get anything from losing Torts).

 

So we get our pick of all the remaining centres (Vilardi, Middlestadt, & Glass) at 4 and then can take a D at 5 (Makar) or trade down a few spots if Makar will still be there and possibly pick up another late first or second rounder as well.

 

Let me know what you guys think, this is my first proposal.

If that is true, why would Colorado lose a 2nd rounder when they pretty know that the Canucks won't pick Heiskanen.  They'll just wait their turn.  They might need defense, but Heiskanen is not necessarily a future Doughty, Ekblad or Jones. I don't think Colorado loses any sleep if he's not there at 4, they still get Hischier, Patrick or Vilardi.

 

Even though this draft is unpredictable...it is highly probable that Patrick, Hischier, Vilardi goes 1,2,3, in any order.  After that 4 to 10 could go a lot of different ways.

[bp79]

pretty not far fetched, unlike my first proposal. The thing is gms usually have A pretty good idea of who is going just ahead or after them in case they want to make A last minute trade So the Avs will proly know by the 2nd pick who van is leaning towards. Like you said if Patrick drops then it's A non-starter If he does drop Maybe Heiskanen is on jbs radar at 5th. Then if the Avs want him the deal can still be done. Or JB could just fib, but he;s no Gillis at that game lol.

[12-16-FG]

I believe you over paid on the Dallas trade., I would switch picks with Dallas and take Niemi's contract on. Then turn and try to flip Tanev  and #55 to Philly for No#2 pick OA and a defence man prospect. Tanev's worth a whole lot more that what you give him credit for. (oh by the way taking on Niemi is giving Dallas cap relief) which Dallas needs badly.

[Alflives]

2 hours ago, 12-16-FG said:

I believe you over paid on the Dallas trade., I would switch picks with Dallas and take Niemi's contract on. Then turn and try to flip Tanev  and #55 to Philly for No#2 pick OA and a defence man prospect. Tanev's worth a whole lot more that what you give him credit for. (oh by the way taking on Niemi is giving Dallas cap relief) which Dallas needs badly.

Getting #2 would really help our rebuild.  Both Patrick or Hischier have first line centre ceiling. Does JB have what it takes as a GM to make these necessary moves?  

[HockeydownUnder]

6 hours ago, 12-16-FG said:

I believe you over paid on the Dallas trade., I would switch picks with Dallas and take Niemi's contract on. Then turn and try to flip Tanev  and #55 to Philly for No#2 pick OA and a defence man prospect. Tanev's worth a whole lot more that what you give him credit for. (oh by the way taking on Niemi is giving Dallas cap relief) which Dallas needs badly.

Dallas has 16.6 million in cap space atm. Thats not to mention they can buy out Niemi and it'll only cost them 1.5 mil for the next 2 years. Getting rid of Niemi's contract is worth very little to them. I do agree we are over paying for the third overall. Most I would give is Tanev and one of the second rounders

[Smegna]

Thats kinda the point of the proposal, i think we are better off with losing a late second round to slightly overpay but getting a second top 5 pick. likelihood of that 55nd overall turning into a superstar is unlikely. If its the difference in getting a deal done or not I would just throw it in. I dont think taking Niemis contract holds as much value as some people have suggested but i also may have de-valued it abit. So what about:

 

To Van:

3rd Overall

Niemi

Dal 2nd Round (39 overall)

 

To Dal:

Tanev

Van 2nd round (33 overall)

CLB 2nd round (55 overall)

 

I think the 3rd overall pick would be really good to have, like we saw last year with Pulijarvi. Players drop and if Patrick actually drops out of the top 2 we can grab him. But like i proposed earlier if he doesnt we can either take Heiskinen and be set on D for years or see of Colorado wants him more than us as they desperately need Defence and are willing to move up.