[Proposal] Draft All The Picks Win All the Things

[Warhippy]

Here's a fun thought.  JUST FOR FUN

 

Bear with me because it's gonna suck to be Vancouver for a few seasons 

 

To Dallas:  Edler 20% retained, 55th, rights to Rodin 

 

To Vancouver:  3rd OA and Lehtonen allowing them to buy out Niemi instead at the cheaper cap hit.

 

To Philly:  5th OA and 33rd OA/Canuck's 2nd rounder

 

To Vancouver:  2nd OA and McDonald 15% retained.  I know Philly said no to trading but losing that contract just to move down would be awfully attractive while adding basically a late 1st as well.

 

To Arizona:  Tanev

 

To Vancouver: 7th OA, 38th OA

 

Draft:

2nd OA Hischier/Patrick

3rd OA Vilardi

7th OA  Liljegren/Makar

 

Yes I'm self medicating.  But thank you Friedman for setting the bar so high! 

 

Edit** Phone populated wrong pick, fixed for accuracy

[PunjabiCanucks]

Dallas wants more. Sadly I feel they want a 1st rd going back for the 3OA, if not its going to cost us both 2nd rd picks + Edler

You also send the 3rd OA and the 5th OA for the 2ND OA, yet draft Vilardi at 3.

Arizona trade I'm down for

[TheHitman]

With 3 1st round picks we really should pick Pettersson. 

[Father Ryan]

13 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Here's a fun thought.  JUST FOR FUN

 

Bear with me because it's gonna suck to be Vancouver for a few seasons 

 

To Dallas:  Edler 20% retained, 55th, rights to Rodin 

 

To Vancouver:  3rd OA and Lehtonen allowing them to buy out Niemi instead at the cheaper cap hit.

 

To Philly:  5th OA and 3rd OA

 

To Vancouver:  2nd OA and McDonald 15% retained.  I know Philly said no to trading but losing that contract just to move down would be awfully attractive while adding basically a late 1st as well.

 

To Arizona:  Tanev

 

To Vancouver: 7th OA, 38th OA

 

Draft:

2nd OA Hischier/Patrick

3rd OA Vilardi

7th OA  Liljegren/Makar

 

Yes I'm self medicating.  But thank you Friedman for setting the bar so high! 

I agree with @PunjabiCanuck, it'll take more than that with Dallas. I would add Subban to that.

The Philly trade: is that really the 5th OA and the 33rd OA? End result, fine.

The AZ trade, fine with that also. I think too many people have Tanev a little overvalued.

 

The end results...I like. A lot!

 

[Warhippy]

29 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said:

Dallas wants more. Sadly I feel they want a 1st rd going back for the 3OA, if not its going to cost us both 2nd rd picks + Edler

You also send the 3rd OA and the 5th OA for the 2ND OA, yet draft Vilardi at 3.

Arizona trade I'm down for

Patrick or Hischier at 2 and Vilardi at 3 yes.

 

With a 1/2/3 of Patrick/Hischier Horvat and Vilardi we'd have the most fearsome 2 way center depth in the entire league

[PunjabiCanucks]

The thing is if we get 2 Centres, how does that work going ahead. I mean I won't complain by any means if both pan out between Vilardi and Glass. Def take a defenceman with one of the 3 picks.

[Warhippy]

24 minutes ago, Father Ryan said:

I agree with @PunjabiCanuck, it'll take more than that with Dallas. I would add Subban to that.

The Philly trade: is that really the 5th OA and the 33rd OA? End result, fine.

The AZ trade, fine with that also. I think too many people have Tanev a little overvalued.

 

The end results...I like. A lot!

 

I actually feel if we're eating the more costly goalie contract AND retaining salary on Edler as well as giving up a 2nd it's entirely possible.

 

Yes that IS the 5th and 33rd from the canucks for the 2nd and McDonalds contract

 

Arizona's 1st and 2nd for Tanev, yes I think that is more than feasible instead of asking for a top prospect.

 

3 top 10 picks AND a still high 2nd.

 

Not entirely as dreamland as some we've seen recently I think

[PunjabiCanucks]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Patrick or Hischier at 2 and Vilardi at 3 yes.

 

With a 1/2/3 of Patrick/Hischier Horvat and Vilardi we'd have the most fearsome 2 way center depth in the entire league

I agree, Imagine rolling 3 lines every night that can play 15-20 minutes.

[PunjabiCanucks]

TBH, if we don't resign Miller we need one of those 2 goalies come to us if we trade with Dallas. No offence to Markstrom. I would love it if we can trade Niemi/ Lehtnonen at the trade deadline to a team that needs a goalie

[Warhippy]

Just now, PunjabiCanucks said:

The thing is if we get 2 Centres, how does that work going ahead. I mean I won't complain by any means if both pan out between Vilardi and Glass. Def take a defenceman with one of the 3 picks.

With 2 centers moving ahead?  Simple.  Develop them both for 2-3 years.  Vilardi can sit in the CHL for another 2 seasons then the AHL for a season, Patrick/Hischier can develop in the CHL for 1 more season before moving up to the NHL

 

So in 2018/2019 It is Patrick/Hischier coming to the NHL

in 2020 Vilardi

somewhere in between Liljegren/Makar

 

This ensures we have solid center depth for when the twins move on and after Sutter.

 

In the event neither Vilardi nor Patrick/Hischier does not translate in to a 1A point producing center, we have 3 1B centers on the team capable of putting up decent points and shutting down the Oilers McJesus line at any time.

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, PunjabiCanucks said:

TBH, if we don't resign Miller we need one of those 2 goalies come to us if we trade with Dallas. No offence to Markstrom. I would love it if we can trade Niemi/ Lehtnonen at the trade deadline to a team that needs a goalie

Umm....I included the Lehtonen contract in the original proposal...

[PunjabiCanucks]

11 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Umm....I included the Lehtonen contract in the original proposal...

I know  I want one of the 2 anyways so we can flip em at the deadline. Also to the post above, I would be plenty happy with 3 1-B lines if one of the 2 don't pan out. Based off of Canucks twitter right now they sure are loving Rasmussen. I feel if Vilardi isn't available at 5 we take Glass or Rasmussen. 

 

Now I know i'm excited and we should somehow get more picks for 2018. But between Edler, Tanev, Sbisa, our 2 2nd rd picks, and if we want Virtanen or Subban can acquire 2 more top 10 picks for this draft (Call me Mr. Optimistic). 

 

Imagine though, we get all that and somehow get top 3  in next years draft..... rebuilt 90% done! 

[Warhippy]

7 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said:

I know  I want one of the 2 anyways so we can flip em at the deadline. Also to the post above, I would be plenty happy with 3 1-B lines if one of the 2 don't pan out. Based off of Canucks twitter right now they sure are loving Rasmussen. I feel if Vilardi isn't available at 5 we take Glass or Rasmussen. 

 

Now I know i'm excited and we should somehow get more picks for 2018. But between Edler, Tanev, Sbisa, our 2 2nd rd picks, and if we want Virtanen or Subban can acquire 2 more top 10 picks for this draft (Call me Mr. Optimistic). 

 

Imagine though, we get all that and somehow get top 3  in next years draft..... rebuilt 90% done! 

With cap constraints and the need for 2 teams to shed some either cap or contract/roster spots.

 

I don't necessarily see any significant reason besides GM's wants and CDC posters needs to say no to everything why these wouldn't necessarily work

[Crotch_Crescent]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Here's a fun thought.  JUST FOR FUN

 

Bear with me because it's gonna suck to be Vancouver for a few seasons 

 

To Dallas:  Edler 20% retained, 55th, rights to Rodin 

 

To Vancouver:  3rd OA and Lehtonen allowing them to buy out Niemi instead at the cheaper cap hit.

 

To Philly:  5th OA and 3rd OA

 

To Vancouver:  2nd OA and McDonald 15% retained.  I know Philly said no to trading but losing that contract just to move down would be awfully attractive while adding basically a late 1st as well.

 

To Arizona:  Tanev

 

To Vancouver: 7th OA, 38th OA

 

Draft:

2nd OA Hischier/Patrick

3rd OA Vilardi

7th OA  Liljegren/Makar

 

Yes I'm self medicating.  But thank you Friedman for setting the bar so high! 

Edler won't waive his no trade clause, at least not this year with his wife expecting their first child.

 

If Lehtonen is dealt, then Dallas can pay Niemi to back up Bishop, they aren't in cap hell until Seguin/Benn get $10M/year contracts.

 

Philly might deal the No.2 if we offer something like Tanev, Markstrom and a 2nd (CBJ's), as they are closer to winning than we are with their under 30 veteran stars, plus they need a goalie unless they think Stolarz is the long term answer.

 

Zona is in a rebuild, so doubt they trade assets to us for Tanev, when they have cap space to sign a dman like Kulikov, Alzner, Mark Stone, MDZ, Kris Russell etc.

 

I like the direction of these trades and Benning should be working the phone lines to see if he can get picks, prospects for his veteran players.

[goalie13]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

[Proposal] Draft All The Picks Win All the Things

Based on the title, I was disappointed you also didn't trade for the first OA pick.  Might as well make it a clean sweep.

[Sedinery33]

29 minutes ago, goalie13 said:

Based on the title, I was disappointed you also didn't trade for the first OA pick.  Might as well make it a clean sweep.

Something like this:

Horvat & Subban To NJ's 1OA and a 3rd

Tanev or Edler and our 2nd To Philly 2OA

Tanev or Edler and CBJ 2nd To Dallas 3OA

 

Then we have 1,2,3 and 5

 

Draft 2 or 3 centers and 1 or 2 D, rebuilt complete! 2023/2024 will be our year, though hate to give up Horvat, don't thing NJ would take anything less

[Warhippy]

37 minutes ago, Sedinery33 said:

Something like this:

Horvat & Subban To NJ's 1OA and a 3rd

Tanev or Edler and our 2nd To Philly 2OA

Tanev or Edler and CBJ 2nd To Dallas 3OA

 

Then we have 1,2,3 and 5

 

Draft 2 or 3 centers and 1 or 2 D, rebuilt complete! 2023/2024 will be our year, though hate to give up Horvat, don't thing NJ would take anything less

Eewww no.  

 

Horvat goes nowhere and I am almost positive NJ has 0 desire for that

Philly trades that 2nd OA for NOTHING that doesn't immediately benefit them, a D man doesn't benefit them.  Cap space a top 5 pick and an additional pick benefit them.

 

[Bigturk8]

2 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Patrick or Hischier at 2 and Vilardi at 3 yes.

 

With a 1/2/3 of Patrick/Hischier Horvat and Vilardi we'd have the most fearsome 2 way center depth in the entire league

2 hours ago, Warhippy said:

To Philly:  5th OA and 3rd OA

 

To Vancouver:  2nd OA and McDonald 15% retained.  I know Philly said no to trading but losing that contract just to move down would be awfully attractive while adding basically a late 1st as well.

 

Draft:

2nd OA Hischier/Patrick

3rd OA Vilardi

7th OA  Liljegren/Makar

I think you misunderstood what he was getting at. In the second trade with Philly, you give them the 3OA, but then proceed to draft Vilardi with the 3OA. We can't draft with a pick we don't have.

[Warhippy]

10 minutes ago, Bigturk8 said:

I think you misunderstood what he was getting at. In the second trade with Philly, you give them the 3OA, but then proceed to draft Vilardi with the 3OA. We can't draft with a pick we don't have.

Oh GD it.  Was doing it on my phone, populated improperly

 

was supposed to be 33rd OA or 2nd round 33rd

 

Thanks for the catch

[Nuxfanabroad]

Y'know what they say about these shiny new picks?..the minute you drive them over the edge(like lemmings), their sticker price plummets, like 30% mann.

 

Maybe we've all got shiny new-pick syndrome? Lots of fanbases/GM's similarly suffer..driving up relative prices.

 

So the question seems, might we be wiser to target high picks/performers from recent, yet previous drafts? Even youth who are just exiting ELC terms, yet their team may be too cap-strapped(or skater-deep), thus willing to deal(CBJ, ANa & TBay, likely candidates).