Cramarossa Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Hortankin said: Ranking who is the better players as of right now, and then projecting the future. The ones on the top 9 are there mainly because they proved they could play. Players like Virtanen, Dahlen, and Goldobin could move up fairly quickly with a strong start to the season. Just personal preference. Was hoping to see more people attempt it, but I guess the lists would be pretty similar.. it's going to be a long Offseason Feel like there should be separate lists based on position. Seems odd otherwise to say someone like Hutton is better than Demko right now (list 1). I guess he's more valuable to the big club since he's with it whereas Demko is not, but I'd say Thatcher is for sure farther along in his development (for a goalie) than Ben is in his (for a defenseman). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Hortankin said: Ya I don't jump on and of the bandwagons I stick by my boys through it all. Virtanen is that guy we will be talking about proving all the haters wrong down the road I just don't think he's down that far in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 10 hours ago, Hortankin said: Just like to see how others rank our current pile of youth that's suppose to lead us to promise land in 3-5 years. I'm going to do 1 based on current rankings and then based on how I believe it will look in 5 years time. 1. Horvat 2. Boeser 3. Baertschi 4. Tryamkin 5. Granlund 6. Stecher 7. Gudbranson 8. Hutton 9. Demko 10. Goldobin 11. Dahlen 12. Juolevi 13. Molino 14. Gaudette 15. Virtanen 16. Subban 17. McEneny 18. Pedan 19. Lockwood 20. Brisebois In 5-7 years..... 1. Demko (+8) 2. Horvat (-1) 3. Boeser (-1) 4. Dahlen (+7) 5. Juolevi (+7) 6. Stecher (=) 7. Virtanen (+8) 8. Tryamkin (-4) 9. Goldobin (+1) 10. Gaudette (+4) 11. Gudbranson (-4) 12. Hutton (-4) 13. Granlund (-8) 14. Baertschi (-11) 15. Subban (+1) 16. Molino (-3) 17. Lockwood (+2) 18. Brisbois (+2) 19. McEneny (-2) 20. McEwen (?) Sorry if I forgot anyone, tried my best LOL Pedan is a last call up at best plus Subban if he does not pull up his socks will be another ahler for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, cripplereh said: LOL Pedan is a last call up at best plus Subban if he does not pull up his socks will be another ahler for life Care to make up a ranking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I could but why when people on here most have no idea about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Hortankin said: He's still in the system anD I believe he comes back. No way JB let's that talent just go away. Even if he doesn't come back I'm still satisfied with our D. Especially if we draft Heiskanen or Makar uhhh........The lack of intelligence on this board is making difficult to be polite. HE'S GONE JB made a bad pick, he didn't not scout Tym properly, he got all giddy about his size and forgot to ask him a few questions like: "Do you want to play in N.A?" Dim Jim has no more power to get him back than I have to retain my sanity if I keep reading this drivel It seems like half the posters on CDC are on the payroll, it's company line, over and over BTW I can feel it in my bones......Dim Jim's latest draft screw-up is going to be one of the two you mentioned...probably Makar and we will see an epic bust, like that other D-man we drafted in the 80's Trev will you PLEASE fire this guy, he is NOT GM material Do the job yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Cramarossa said: Feel like there should be separate lists based on position. Seems odd otherwise to say someone like Hutton is better than Demko right now (list 1). I guess he's more valuable to the big club since he's with it whereas Demko is not, but I'd say Thatcher is for sure farther along in his development (for a goalie) than Ben is in his (for a defenseman). A guy who's never played an NHL game is for sure further along in his development than one who's going into his third NHL season? OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cramarossa Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: A guy who's never played an NHL game is for sure further along in his development than one who's going into his third NHL season? OK. If you think Hutty is a better defenseman than Thatcher is a goalie then that's your prerogative but I disagree. Goalies take a long time to season, but Demko's going to be making a bigger splash in his first two seasons at his position than Hutton did in his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 4 hours ago, terrible.dee said: uhhh........The lack of intelligence on this board is making difficult to be polite. HE'S GONE JB made a bad pick, he didn't not scout Tym properly, he got all giddy about his size and forgot to ask him a few questions like: "Do you want to play in N.A?" Dim Jim has no more power to get him back than I have to retain my sanity if I keep reading this drivel It seems like half the posters on CDC are on the payroll, it's company line, over and over BTW I can feel it in my bones......Dim Jim's latest draft screw-up is going to be one of the two you mentioned...probably Makar and we will see an epic bust, like that other D-man we drafted in the 80's Trev will you PLEASE fire this guy, he is NOT GM material Do the job yourself "If you love something set it free. If it comes back to you it's yours, if it doesn't, it never was." I can't wait to see your posts when JB gets a 3 year extension in December. Mom always said if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all which you may or may not want to take to heart. Or keep reading from Three Billy Goats Gruff like you always do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I see a lot of okay players, but no one stands out as elite. Don't we need elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 4 hours ago, terrible.dee said: uhhh........The lack of intelligence on this board is making difficult to be polite. HE'S GONE JB made a bad pick, he didn't not scout Tym properly, he got all giddy about his size and forgot to ask him a few questions like: "Do you want to play in N.A?" Dim Jim has no more power to get him back than I have to retain my sanity if I keep reading this drivel It seems like half the posters on CDC are on the payroll, it's company line, over and over BTW I can feel it in my bones......Dim Jim's latest draft screw-up is going to be one of the two you mentioned...probably Makar and we will see an epic bust, like that other D-man we drafted in the 80's Trev will you PLEASE fire this guy, he is NOT GM material Do the job yourself wow, lot's of anger over a "game". So every time a player is to be drafted in later rounds, the GM is supposed to fly to wherever that player lives and get them to sign a paper of some sort to guarantee no matter what that they will never, ever, consider using any rules in their favour as a player to puruse their career and family life they way they feel is best for them? Interesting approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: I see a lot of okay players, but no one stands out as elite. Don't we need elite? Too early to tell. We have quite a few players with elite POTENTIAL.. potential being the key word before people start assuming I'm saying these guys are elite, I'm not. It's just potential and it's up to them to put the work in to reach it. Demko - high Horvat - high Boeser - high Dahlen - high Juolevi - medium Stecher - medium Tryamkin - medium Goldobin - medium Gaudette - medium Virtanen - low Granlund - low Baertschi - low Its going to be a fun couple years watching them develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 2017-06-10 at 2:08 PM, Hortankin said: Just like to see how others rank our current pile of youth that's suppose to lead us to promise land in 3-5 years. I'm going to do 1 based on current rankings and then based on how I believe it will look in 5 years time. 1. Horvat 2. Boeser 3. Baertschi 4. Tryamkin 5. Granlund 6. Stecher 7. Gudbranson 8. Hutton 9. Demko 10. Goldobin 11. Dahlen 12. Juolevi 13. Molino 14. Gaudette 15. Virtanen 16. Subban 17. McEneny 18. Pedan 19. Lockwood 20. Brisebois In 5-7 years..... 1. Demko (+8) 2. Horvat (-1) 3. Boeser (-1) 4. Dahlen (+7) 5. Juolevi (+7) 6. Stecher (=) 7. Virtanen (+8) 8. Tryamkin (-4) 9. Goldobin (+1) 10. Gaudette (+4) 11. Gudbranson (-4) 12. Hutton (-4) 13. Granlund (-8) 14. Baertschi (-11) 15. Subban (+1) 16. Molino (-3) 17. Lockwood (+2) 18. Brisbois (+2) 19. McEneny (-2) 20. McEwen (?) Sorry if I forgot anyone, tried my best Absolutely agree with your 5-7 year rankings. Demko will be plastered on the side of Rogers Arena someday soon. only guy you appear to be sleeping on is Brisebois. He'll be a steady NHL defender for a lotta years. He's better than Guddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetts Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Id bet in 5 years virtannen is #3 or 4 behinc demko, captain horvat, future draft pick. Virt matures + gains 25lb muscle and hes gonna be amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseBlue Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Funny coz i only see op's list and no one else's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 23 hours ago, Cramarossa said: ...I'd say Thatcher is for sure farther along in his development (for a goalie) than Ben is in his (for a defenseman). 15 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: A guy who's never played an NHL game is for sure further along in his development than one who's going into his third NHL season? OK. 13 hours ago, Cramarossa said: If you think Hutty is a better defenseman than Thatcher is a goalie then that's your prerogative but I disagree. Erecting straw men like that is dishonest. You should try to avoid doing that if you want to have any credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1. Horvat 2. Gudbranson 3. Baertschi 4. Boeser 5. Hutton 6. Demko 7. Juolevi 8. Stecher 9. Granlund 10. Goldobin 11. Dahlen 12. Virtanen 13. Gaudette 14. Lockwood 15. Tryamkin 16. McEneny 17. Subban 18. Brisbois 19. Chatfield 20. Gaunce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 On 2017-06-10 at 7:27 PM, Hortankin said: Ya I don't jump on and of the bandwagons I stick by my boys through it all. You're supposed to cheer for the team through it all. Ranking your fav player ahead of good ones isn't sticking with your boy, it's rejecting reality. Now 1. Horvat 2. Tryamkin 3. Baertschi 4. Boeser 5. Granlund 2022 1. Dahlin 2. Horvat 3. Boeser 4. Demko 5. Tryamkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 Horvat 2 everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Now, who can we pick at #5 that leapfrogs the entire prospect pool? Only one guy in this draft does this, and his name is Nico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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