stawns Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 7 hours ago, DeNiro said: If we're going for hometown boys, I'd rather bring Alzner home though. Yup, I really hope JB has him on his radar for July 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Allzner would be pricey. Despres is a big mobile guy that would be a lot cheaper. Edler-Stecher Hutton-Franson Despres-Gudbranson Pedan-Biega If you can't match skill, make sure McDavid pays the price any time he crosses our blue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Juolevi needs to sack up and make the damn squad already bulk up over the summer and get on with it. If he is as good as Olli Maata he needs to make the team full time and be a regular this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 As long as he isn't given a hampering contract, I'd consider it. He can always be flipped for another asset at a trade deadline or something. If he wants a long, expensive contract though, then forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 If we trade Tanev or lose Sbisa to the ED, we have PLENTY of UFA defencemen to pick from who've just been bought out as well. Lots of stop gaps out there. Girardi, Franson, Wideman, Beauchemin...the list goes on. Then there's the more valuable guys like Kulikov, Shattenkirk, Stone and Del Zotto who are obviously younger and more useful. If they don't go to a playoff-bound team, JB should look into them because to be honest they're probably better or about the same as most of the Canucks defence anyway. I'd be all for flipping Tanev + 5th + 2nd round pick for Honka + 3rd overall. Honka doesn't need protecting. Protect Sbisa. Sign Franson or Del Zotto (more likely than the others). Girardi would be a lovely veteran presence too. Edler - Stecher Hutton - Gudbranson Sbisa - Honka UFA (Del Zotto, Franson, Girardi) Give the UFA a red-hot crack at getting into our top-6 or top-4 which they probably will with a good pre-season and when injuries rack up, they get 20 minutes. Draft Vilardi or Nolan (if we're lucky enough for him to fall) and we've got our top-6 center and a top-4 defenceman in one move for now and for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrek Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 5 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Upgrade over Edler and Gudbranson as well You're going to regret that quote now that Gudbranson will be healthy next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 3 hours ago, k_man08 said: You do realize Franson and Bo have a very big age difference. Bo also has a much higher ceiling than Franson. at this point Franson is who he is.. he won't be getting any better so it would be foolish to think if he tries, he'll be faster. I rather give the roster spot to one of our prospects to see what they got if we can't get someone from available UFAs. If franson comes dirt cheap (1 - 2 Million per year) then great. else i'm not interested personally. Well ceiling is one thing but working on one part of your game extra hard until you notice the difference but i wasn't comparing bo to cody, was using bo by reference of how much work he did especially in skating so just pointing out that in a players career he can work or qweak it but i'd never compare the 2, however like a poster said if tanev gets traded we wouldn't lose sbisa for nothing but its going to be tall order but if we do lose sbisa then we can sign a dman with his cap no problem but im more concerned with picking a top 6 center draft day. hope vegas spends to cap on other names and don't have much left when they come knocking... they might not even afford him by the time they hit us so might be all for nothing, as in all the scenarios possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Canucks1000 said: Why not both? If Franson could be had for cheap and Sbisa and Tanev are gone the cap would likely be a wash to bring in Franson and Alzner. Every other team in the league is talking about how they need to add speed into their lineup. Benning too by the way. Alzner admitted that he lost footspeed ever since sports hernia surgery. He's also a stay-at-home D and Benning wants Ds who can join the rush and support the Fs in the o-zone. It's no longer about just passing the puck up to the Fs. Franson was traded to Nashville at the 2015 TDL - he made Weber look fast. He couldn't keep up and was a liability against the speed of Chicago in the first round. The league is even faster now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 6 hours ago, mll said: Every other team in the league is talking about how they need to add speed into their lineup. Benning too by the way. Alzner admitted that he lost footspeed ever since sports hernia surgery. He's also a stay-at-home D and Benning wants Ds who can join the rush and support the Fs in the o-zone. It's no longer about just passing the puck up to the Fs. Franson was traded to Nashville at the 2015 TDL - he made Weber look fast. He couldn't keep up and was a liability against the speed of Chicago in the first round. The league is even faster now. I wondered about JB going after Alzner as a UFA. Resigning Gudbranson makes that a stretch now. Hoping that Guddy can be a younger version of Alzner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: I wondered about JB going after Alzner as a UFA. Resigning Gudbranson makes that a stretch now. Hoping that Guddy can be a younger version of Alzner. not really, if Vegas ends up taking Sbisa we still have 17 1/2 million in cap space. Even signing Alzner and extending Bo there should be a nice chunk left over... unless Jim does something crazy like signing Miller to 6 mil again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 20 hours ago, CanuckGAME said: No thanks. Not even a little. concur totally here, he would need a tough pairing partner like Guddy ,he is too soft for western conference play.Mind you others have different views on his utilization an the disposal of other assets like Edler etc,? We still need to toughen up the back end with loss of our big tree back to Russia I do not see this beneficial in any sense just protracting the agony of still having to retool the back end to keep pucks out of our own net. Kicking the can down the road by picking up Franson does nothing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 20 hours ago, DeNiro said: Upgrade over Sbisa IMO. and actually adds some physicality to the lineup. lol. sbisa tried vs Winnipeg then got punched in the face. very little team push back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 17 hours ago, EdgarM said: Sign him up already. we would be much better if we did. add Franson and Juolevi and we will be heading in the right direction. Edler Tanev Hutton Stecher Juolevi Franson me likely. if sbisa is still here we can swap the bottom 3 out every few games to let Juolevi build more strength. I have a feeling he may not be at the ideal weight right away. by mid season I think he will be close. he should be able to play though. I hope he exceeds my expectations. he wants to bulk the right way by adding physical strength instead of just bulk mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 anyone got a link on the interview and time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 12 hours ago, Chip Kelly said: Juolevi needs to sack up and make the damn squad already bulk up over the summer and get on with it. If he is as good as Olli Maata he needs to make the team full time and be a regular this year. Nope he doesn't. There is ZERO rush with him. None at all. Not even a bit. Another year in JR would be just fine. A year in the AHL after one more JR season would be great. Lets allow these kids to grow and develop properly. Quit being part of the problem Chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Interesting evaluation of Cody Franson's current level of play. His 5 on 5 and defensive play surprised me, as did his shot suppression. He is still a pretty good puck mover too. If the $ cap and term fit the Canucks plans, he would be a decent righty replacement for the, well you know...various defenceman injuries during the season. http://bluelinestation.com/2017/06/14/new-york-rangers-free-agent-profile-cody-franson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 4 hours ago, drummerboy said: Nope he doesn't. There is ZERO rush with him. None at all. Not even a bit. Another year in JR would be just fine. A year in the AHL after one more JR season would be great. Lets allow these kids to grow and develop properly. Quit being part of the problem Chip. If he is ready he's ready if Stecher can play right away Juolevi can easily play in sheltered minutes on the bottom pair with Gudbranson. Not like I'm expecting him to carry the d core offensively off the bat. What is so unreasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said: If he is ready he's ready if Stecher can play right away Juolevi can easily play in sheltered minutes on the bottom pair with Gudbranson. Not like I'm expecting him to carry the d core offensively off the bat. What is so unreasonable? What is unreasonable? "Juolevi needs to sack up and make the damn squad already bulk up over the summer and get on with it." this really dumb comment of yours is unreasonable. How does he need to sack up? because he is really young and his body is still growing? Make the damn square already? He just got drafted last year. What is the hurry? Let him grow into his body and continue to learn the game before throwing him to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 46 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said: If he is ready he's ready if Stecher can play right away Juolevi can easily play in sheltered minutes on the bottom pair with Gudbranson. Not like I'm expecting him to carry the d core offensively off the bat. What is so unreasonable? Juolevi is only 19. He is also a tall lanky individual. We would be better served by waiting for him to physically mature more. Stecher was 22 when he stepped in. A person can mature physically quite a lot in three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Ugh codys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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