nowhereman Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Where are these Peter Forsberg comparisons coming from? Forsberg's mesomorphic body type is completely different than Petterson's ectomorphic build, so don't get your hopes up that Petterson will fill out like Forsberg did. But, even beyond that, they don't play a similar style. Forsberg was a tough-as-nails, physical beast more similar to a guy like Kesler with that "I will do anything to win... even if it kills me" mentality. Does that really sound anything like Petterson? I think (well, at least, hope) that Petterson is going to be a tremendous NHL forward but Forsberg is the last comparison I'd use. I see more of Zetterberg/Backstrom type of player there. Edited November 15, 2017 by nowhereman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, nowhereman said: Where are these Peter Forsberg comparisons coming from? Forsberg's mesomorphic body type is completely different than Petterson's ectomorphic build, so don't get your hopes up that Petterson will fill out like Forsberg did. But, even beyond that, they don't play a similar style. Forsberg was a tough-as-nails, physical beast more similar to a guy like Kesler with that "I will do anything to win... even if it kills me" mentality. Does that really sound anything like Petterson? I think (well, at least, hope) that Petterson is going to be a tremendous NHL forward but Forsberg is the last comparison I'd use. I see more of Zetterberg/Backstrom type of player there. It's because he is scoring at rate and at an age that only PF and Kent Nillson have done (in the SHL). So we all think he will score at roughly the same rate as PF in the NHL...but ya totally different player's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpennyCanuck Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 10 hours ago, Diamonds said: I didn't realize he was that light when drafted either, but after some searching it does seem to be the case. This draft card lists him at 5'10" 161 lbs: http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/59580/cid/3343446/1991-Ultimate-Draft-5-Peter-Forsberg This draft card lists him at 5'11" 167lbs: http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/14193/cid/1579995/1991-Classic-Draft-Picks-5-Peter-Forsberg (Sorry, I don't know how to embed an image) So Forsberg seems to have been somewhere between 161lbs and 167lbs when drafted. Forsberg was shorter than Pettersson when drafted though which is probably why he looks a bit more solid despite similar weight. I don't think Pettersson ends up heavier than 200lbs but I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in the 190lbs range. I think 190 is going to be the top end for Elias. I would compare his brother to how big hes going to get, Emil is 6'2" - 176 lbs: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=27331 Forsberg has different genetics... so its hard to compare lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, SpennyCanuck said: I think 190 is going to be the top end for Elias. I would compare his brother to how big hes going to get, Emil is 6'2" - 176 lbs: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=27331 Forsberg has different genetics... so its hard to compare lol Yeah, plus Forsberg grew two inches taller in addition to adding 35-40 lbs between his draft and prime years. I doubt Elias gets much taller than he is. Maybe a closer physical comparison for a top pick NHLer would be Eric Staal? He was a total reed and stood 6'3" but only weighed maybe a hair above a buck eighty when drafted. Didn't really grow taller (maybe an inch) but played at around 210 in his prime. I don't see Elias adding 30 lbs. But 15-20 seems very possible and would be more than enough IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 hours ago, nowhereman said: Where are these Peter Forsberg comparisons coming from? Forsberg's mesomorphic body type is completely different than Petterson's ectomorphic build, so don't get your hopes up that Petterson will fill out like Forsberg did. But, even beyond that, they don't play a similar style. Forsberg was a tough-as-nails, physical beast more similar to a guy like Kesler with that "I will do anything to win... even if it kills me" mentality. Does that really sound anything like Petterson? I think (well, at least, hope) that Petterson is going to be a tremendous NHL forward but Forsberg is the last comparison I'd use. I see more of Zetterberg/Backstrom type of player there. now that is a solid point. ep looks like he will always have a slender build. it doesnt mean he will be a rake though like some have claimed. 195 (likely between 190-200) im excited to see this kid play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Yeah, plus Forsberg grew two inches taller in addition to adding 35-40 lbs between his draft and prime years. I doubt Elias gets much taller than he is. Maybe a closer physical comparison for a top pick NHLer would be Eric Staal? He was a total reed and stood 6'3" but only weighed maybe a hair above a buck eighty when drafted. Didn't really grow taller (maybe an inch) but played at around 210 in his prime. I don't see Elias adding 30 lbs. But 15-20 seems very possible and would be more than enough IMO. Send him to my place I have put on 40 pounds! My chili and some wobbly pops will fix him up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Yeah, plus Forsberg grew two inches taller in addition to adding 35-40 lbs between his draft and prime years. I doubt Elias gets much taller than he is. Maybe a closer physical comparison for a top pick NHLer would be Eric Staal? He was a total reed and stood 6'3" but only weighed maybe a hair above a buck eighty when drafted. Didn't really grow taller (maybe an inch) but played at around 210 in his prime. I don't see Elias adding 30 lbs. But 15-20 seems very possible and would be more than enough IMO. I went through a lot of draft picks to check their draft weight compared to their fully grown weight and most guys put on around 20lbs. Most likely Pettersson will end up around the 180-190lb range which will be fine. The Sedins have done fine for being slender and 185lbs. I can only see it being a problem if he is like his brother and only ends up being in the 175lb range, in that case he'll probably still be a great NHL player but will most likely be a winger and maybe not as dominant as we all hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: Send him to my place I have put on 40 pounds! My chili and some wobbly pops will fix him up. Well, we don't need him turning into Virtanen 2016 either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: It's because he is scoring at rate and at an age that only PF and Kent Nillson have done (in the SHL). So we all think he will score at roughly the same rate as PF in the NHL...but ya totally different player's.... That was a looooong time ago.... are all you nerds using some sort of formula to account for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: That was a looooong time ago.... are all you nerds using some sort of formula to account for that? ...not a herd... It was actually probably easier to score at a higher rate back then in the SHL....it sure was in the NHL and you don't need any nerdy math skills to figure that out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 20 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Yeah, plus Forsberg grew two inches taller in addition to adding 35-40 lbs between his draft and prime years. I doubt Elias gets much taller than he is. Maybe a closer physical comparison for a top pick NHLer would be Eric Staal? He was a total reed and stood 6'3" but only weighed maybe a hair above a buck eighty when drafted. Didn't really grow taller (maybe an inch) but played at around 210 in his prime. I don't see Elias adding 30 lbs. But 15-20 seems very possible and would be more than enough IMO. Wayne Simmonds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Wayne Simmonds? Yeah, nice one. He was pretty much the exact same height and weight as Pettersson when drafted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ...not a herd... It was actually probably easier to score at a higher rate back then in the SHL....it sure was in the NHL and you don't need any nerdy math skills to figure that out.... I have literally zero nerdy math skills so be patient with me.... didn’t Forsberg play primarily in the dead puck era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Petterson with a clapper, top corner, 4 seconds into the powerplay. Edited November 16, 2017 by Bigturk8 grammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said: I have literally zero nerdy math skills so be patient with me.... didn’t Forsberg play primarily in the dead puck era? All I know is that there were way more player's scoring over a point a game...PF only played 708 games in the NHL due to his foot but he got 885 points which is 1.25 PPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: That is almost the same goal he scores in all his highlights...one timer, just inside the post....PF may not be a lofty enough comparable the way EP is going....!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sweet baby Jesus. EP40 running the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said: I have literally zero nerdy math skills so be patient with me.... didn’t Forsberg play primarily in the dead puck era? The NHL dead puck era is normally defined as between 1993 and 2004 so Forsberg did play the majority of his NHL games during that period. However, his 18 and 19 year old seasons with Modo were prior to the dead puck era and those are the seasons many are trying to make the Forsberg comparisons to. The season Forsberg started with Modo as an 18 year old he had 28 points in 39 games but he was a younger 18 year old than Elias. As a 19 year old he produced 47 points in 39 games. In either case, Pettersson's performance to date is quite comparable. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1742 https://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nhl/dead-puck-era.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 That goal is mezmerising...almost went into a trance watching it over and over.... Oli is going to be collecting a whole lot of assits off of this guy when they finally get together...maybe for our playoff run.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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