48MPHSlapShot Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Interesting about the Nylander comparison. Over on HFboards there are some posters who religiously watch and go to SHL games that were saying that what Nylander did last year was much more impressive than what Pettersson is doing this year just due to the quality of the teams. Nylander basically carried that team on his back, he took a $&!# team into the playoffs. The year after he left they were relegated I think, while Vaxjo is a powerhouse and Pettersson has lots of talent around him. Interesting to hear that these guys think the exact opposite How can the HF trolls say that, considering that Pettersson has 10 more points then the next highest scoring member of his team? http://www.quanthockey.com/shl/en/teams/vaxjo-lakers-hc-players-2017-18-shl-stats.html Well....I guess I just answered my own question actually xD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: When it comes to canuck prospect, never listen to the opinion of the members over there. I’ve never read more bs in my life and oooooooff course pettersson is nowhere in nylandes tier. ??? The people I talk to are not "members" of anything remotely involved the Canucks. If you must know, they are all current or former players in either the Swedish or German elite leagues and we chat about hockey a lot and I simply asked those I know who watch games, or are in Sweden (or even still playing) what they thought of EP. Anything they offered up about Nylander was them saying it, not me asking about it. I know Nylander is a good player but they collectively feel EP is further ahead in his draft plus one year and simply a better player at same age. Nothing scientific and calling it "bs" is not really logical - just their opinions and clearly you disagree and think Nylander better. Is your opinion from the time you lived/played in Sweden and watched both playing for such a direct comparison? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: ??? The people I talk to are not "members" of anything remotely involved the Canucks. If you must know, they are all current or former players in either the Swedish or German elite leagues and we chat about hockey a lot and I simply asked those I know who watch games, or are in Sweden (or even still playing) what they thought of EP. Anything they offered up about Nylander was them saying it, not me asking about it. I know Nylander is a good player but they collectively feel EP is further ahead in his draft plus one year and simply a better player at same age. Nothing scientific and calling it "bs" is not really logical - just their opinions and clearly you disagree and think Nylander better. Is your opinion from the time you lived/played in Sweden and watched both playing for such a direct comparison? I think he was referring to HF boards. THanks for your story 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: I think he was referring to HF boards. THanks for your story I don't know about HF members, would think they would listen to those who actually live/play against these players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: How can the HF trolls say that, considering that Pettersson has 10 more points then the next highest scoring member of his team? http://www.quanthockey.com/shl/en/teams/vaxjo-lakers-hc-players-2017-18-shl-stats.html Well....I guess I just answered my own question actually xD These guys seemed legit. By no means we're they trying to downplay what Pettersson is doing, just honestly felt that Nylanders season was more impressive because he was on a much weaker team and putting up the same ppg. They weren't Leaf fans, they were guys that live in Europe and watch the SHL. I'm guessing they might be changing their minds soon though if Pettersson keeps up this pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Ihatetomatoes said: and putting up the same ppg. But...he's not. Pettersson has 4 more points in one less game if my math is correct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: But...he's not. Pettersson has 4 more points in one less game if my math is correct. This was a week or so ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Ihatetomatoes said: This was a week or so ago. Even before the three point game wasn't Pettersson's PPG average higher than Nylander's? 21 points in 18 games or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted November 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Interesting about the Nylander comparison. Over on HFboards there are some posters who religiously watch and go to SHL games that were saying that what Nylander did last year was much more impressive than what Pettersson is doing this year just due to the quality of the teams. Nylander basically carried that team on his back, he took a $&!# team into the playoffs. The year after he left they were relegated I think, while Vaxjo is a powerhouse and Pettersson has lots of talent around him. Interesting to hear that these guys think the exact opposite He carried the team on his back into the playoffs? They were never in the playoffs when Nylander was on the team and, in fact, were one of the worst teams in the league the year he was there largely as they scored a bunch but were horrid in their own end. If someone is claiming he "carried the team into the playoffs", please have them tell you what year that was and what league as clearly they have the wrong player in mind. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Even before the three point game wasn't Pettersson's PPG average higher than Nylander's? 21 points in 18 games or something? Ya possibly, maybe I was wrong saying ppg. Really close either way, it's not a bad thing to be on par with Nylander. He's a pretty great NHL player, who was more impressive in the SHL is more a personal opinion. Both are great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: ??? The people I talk to are not "members" of anything remotely involved the Canucks. If you must know, they are all current or former players in either the Swedish or German elite leagues and we chat about hockey a lot and I simply asked those I know who watch games, or are in Sweden (or even still playing) what they thought of EP. Anything they offered up about Nylander was them saying it, not me asking about it. I know Nylander is a good player but they collectively feel EP is further ahead in his draft plus one year and simply a better player at same age. Nothing scientific and calling it "bs" is not really logical - just their opinions and clearly you disagree and think Nylander better. Is your opinion from the time you lived/played in Sweden and watched both playing for such a direct comparison? I meant the vast majority of the members on hfboards. Everyone claims they are legit. Anyway thanks for your updates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: I keep in touch with people who still follow the SEL pretty closely. They don't agree with the Forsberg comparisons but do think he reminds them a lot of Patrick Kane even though they have slightly different body types and skating styles. A direct quote from one of them "his vision is amazing, watching him live he does something I only see Kane in NHL doing and that is never having head looking at puck, he always is looking around him while doing magic with puck/stick - it is like he doesn't have to think about stick work and that is what makes him so amazing". I asked if any of them thought he was doing as well as Nylander did a few years ago and all were amazed by question saying "he is far beyond that, not even close. Nylander was fine and put up points but not dominant like Elias and not nearly as good in leading the team". For what it is worth. Good comparison. Another one would be kent nilsson in the way that he attacks the opposition using a combo of aggression and hockey iq. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: He carried the team on his back into the playoffs? They were never in the playoffs when Nylander was on the team and, in fact, were one of the worst teams in the league the year he was there largely as they scored a bunch but were horrid in their own end. If someone is claiming he "carried the team into the playoffs", please have them tell you what year that was and what league as clearly they have the wrong player in mind. Correct me if im wrong but wasnt modo damn near relegated the season nylander was with them. Edited November 23, 2017 by Isam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 17 hours ago, alfstonker said: Says the local village idiot who when racking his brains for something on topic and interesting to say realised he had been shortchanged and so went with his metier, "stupid" Adorable. Only thing is, I'm not samjam99. The name's a joke. Has been for about four years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 9 hours ago, canuckledraggin said: We will be able to see him on the smaller ice at the world juniors though, at Buffalo this year http://www.buffaloworldjuniors.com/ I did have a thought though (and yes it was painful) Is it a foregone conclusion that Vaxjo will lend him to the Swedish team? He is a huge part of their offense as the leagues top scorer. I wouldn't think there would be any hesitation from these Swedish teams to have these kids rep their country, but I was curious if it was the same as kids and their NHL teams. That's am interesting question? Whether Vaxjo will let him play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvats_Big_Head Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 EP sure is making Subban look bad. Subban should be embarrassed at his performance so far as a prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Its kinda funny to think that a lot of people were iffy about this pick, but had we picked Glass for instance, people would be calling for JB's head to have not drafted the 19 year-old SHL leading scorer just because of his size. Edited November 23, 2017 by HorvatToBaertschi 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: Its kinda funny to think that a lot of people were iffy about this pick, but had we picked Glass for instance, people would be calling for JB's head to have not drafted the 19 year-old SHL leading scorer just because of his size. TBH I doubt that. I feel like most people would have been on board with Glass, even knowing that Pettersson was killing it. People would've made excuses to downplay Pettersson's achievements and whatnot. That being said I honestly would've taken Pettersson 2nd overall in the summer so I'm not complaining lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 19 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Try to think of it as more of Deja vu of when everybody (except me) was saying that Horvat needed time in the AHL or when most people (except me) were saying that Boeser needed time in the AHL...Jake just doesn't have the hockey sense of the other 3 guys and that was evident from year 0 with us... All you mother hen's trying to "calm us down" on being excited about a prospect.....no....THE prospect of the CENTURY for us.... Boeser and Petterson are going to terrorize the NHL next year and all you hand wringing guys will be going "oh ya I called that"... Take a rest bud before your crystal ball has a seizure. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 5 hours ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: Its kinda funny to think that a lot of people were iffy about this pick, but had we picked Glass for instance, people would be calling for JB's head to have not drafted the 19 year-old SHL leading scorer just because of his size. It's Nylander all over again! Why doesn't JB learn -- he only wants meat and potatoes, meanwhile other smart GMs like Lou and now Gorton are drafting high skill. Look how the NYR were even willing to trade up just to get Pettersson. Benning had Petterson on the board but just like Juolevi and Virtanen he blew yet another top pick... and you blind homers say he's so great at drafting. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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