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1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said:

Well, I would sign him, put in a behavior clause in his contract, and call it a day..............

 

He is a free asset, and worth 6 to 7 million a year...........

 

But! If he becomes a distraction, you cancel his contract for failure to abide by the terms........

 

On another note......he is a more mature man, that will live in the same community as his family

 

I would have his bonus's back end loaded on a 5 year deal, cap remains the same, but he gets paid big at the end.....

 

 

 

getting kane to agree to any contract that contains terms outside the usual good conduct requirements is strange

why would he come here if he was not truly wanted.. some other team will be clearer about their want for him

and good luck trying to cancel his contract once it is signed

even richards contract could not be cancelled and he was involved in criminal activity

and why would kane use is 1 real free agency chance to sign a back loaded contract?  this is his one real chance to get overpaid, get security, and get more money up front

typically these contracts are front loaded, filled with bonuses. so they are by-out proof

go look at ericksson's contract

that is more the type of deal kane will get - but perhaps a bit richer

so your rosy view of this all is a bit unrealistic ?

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39 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Pre-dates the Guldhjälmen (MVP) award, which started in 1986, but yeah, he led the Swedish league in scoring in his rookie season (1975-76) and likely would have won it if it existed at that time.

Yeah i looked that up afer i posted. Funny that nilsson didnt win the guldpucken though.

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36 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

 

getting kane to agree to any contract that contains terms outside the usual good conduct requirements is strange

why would he come here if he was not truly wanted.. some other team will be clearer about their want for him

and good luck trying to cancel his contract once it is signed

even richards contract could not be cancelled and he was involved in criminal activity

and why would kane use is 1 real free agency chance to sign a back loaded contract?  this is his one real chance to get overpaid, get security, and get more money up front

typically these contracts are front loaded, filled with bonuses. so they are by-out proof

go look at ericksson's contract

that is more the type of deal kane will get - but perhaps a bit richer

so your rosy view of this all is a bit unrealistic ?

Prune juice not work today, Coastal ?

 

Let's get back on topic here and talk Pettersson

If you just want to slag my rosy views......let's take that to another forum

 

I agree with you.......not very realistic

 

But Pettersson looks great!

 

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3 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Prune juice not work today, Coastal ?

 

Let's get back on topic here and talk Pettersson

If you just want to slag my rosy views......let's take that to another forum

 

I agree with you.......not very realistic

 

But Pettersson looks great!

 

I like his defensive awareness.

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2 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Pettersson's a natural centre, and thrives in that position. Such a waste to move him to wing. IMHO.

Is he?  I thought he was quite comfortable with both positions.  But it's true... Elite centers can be hard to come by so if a guy is truly capable of playing center, you generally want him in that position.  The idea was more a pipe dream we would get Tavares and manage to have 3 elite players on one line.  Not sure we have any other likely elite forward talent in the system.

 

Not like we are gonna have a chance to woo Tavares here anyway.  I'm fully expecting Pettersson to be our #1 center.

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3 minutes ago, cookieeater55 said:

no ones ever brought his defensive side up....

 

curious to see if he's smart defensively, you have any stats?

 

No stats from me, but the games i watched from he seems to get to the right areas to cause alot of turnovers. He doesnt seem to lose his man like alo of young players. Maybe someone else can elaborate more

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4 hours ago, Erik Karlsson said:

I'm worried our trainers are going to tell Petterson to bulk up like they did Virtanen and Juolevi, which made them play terrible. Even Hansen bulked up a bunch one season and lost a step, some of this has to be on our training staff, happening too much lately. 

Same with Hutton. He looked better before he bulked up. It would suck to see EP bulk up quickly and lose agility and effectiveness. But I doubt it will happen, he seems to be pretty smart.

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Last week Benning again repeated that they drafted him to be a playmaking C re they have scoring wingers so it was very important to get him as a C last draft.  Has there been any plans for him to be tried at C now that he has adjusted to the league.  

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10 hours ago, Erik Karlsson said:

I'm worried our trainers are going to tell Petterson to bulk up like they did Virtanen and Juolevi, which made them play terrible. Even Hansen bulked up a bunch one season and lost a step, some of this has to be on our training staff, happening too much lately. 

Are you serious?

These Canuck trainers are pros and likely to be the best of the best. What happened with Jake was nothing to do with the Canuck trainers - or likely any other trainers worth a damn. He was 230lbs, 15lbs of it pure blubber that's why he couldn't last 15 seconds on the ice without sucking air up his ass.

 

Swedish Sport is elite when it comes to fitness and if the Canucks have agreed a program with his Club you can bet it will be done in a professional manner.

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4 hours ago, mll said:

Last week Benning again repeated that they drafted him to be a playmaking C re they have scoring wingers so it was very important to get him as a C last draft.  Has there been any plans for him to be tried at C now that he has adjusted to the league.  

I wouldn't be too concerned about his position.  If we need him at wing, he's going to be wing.  If we need him at C (which is most likely) he will be at C.  He will end up where he ends up based on his talents and our needs. He's a super smart player so I imagine he will be able to adapt to whichever position he's needed.

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13 hours ago, kloubek said:

 

The UFA we need is Tavares.  Move Pettersson to the wing. 

 

If Benning can accomplish that for $9.5 million or less a year and we can end up drafting top 10 this year again he'd have a statue built in his honour.

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22 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

If Benning can accomplish that for $9.5 million or less a year and we can end up drafting top 10 this year again he'd have a statue built in his honour.

Just imagine actually getting some luck and landing 1st overall.

 

Draft Dahlin, sign Tavares. Rebuild complete and let the cups roll in B)

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11 hours ago, coastal.view said:

typically these contracts are front loaded, filled with bonuses. so they are by-out proof

go look at ericksson's contract

this is true, if we do get Kane it will be very front loaded and it will likely be a hard to trade contract, so there's a lot of pressure on Jim to get that one right. 

 

But looking forward, there is a ton of cap room coming up in the next few years for guys like Pettersson. We're going to have a period with a lot of guys on their ELCs much like the current situation in TO as well. So as long as we don't have more than say one "bad" contract we should be just fine. 

 

Loui seems to have found his game again, and if that sticks going forward we really don't have a bad contract on the team. But if we lock up Kane for 7 years at 8 mil and he's a dud, and Loui has another bad year I'd say thats the end of Benning's run here. Its risky but I'd still love to see a line with Kane and Pettersson on it. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

this is true, if we do get Kane it will be very front loaded and it will likely be a hard to trade contract, so there's a lot of pressure on Jim to get that one right. 

 

But looking forward, there is a ton of cap room coming up in the next few years for guys like Pettersson. We're going to have a period with a lot of guys on their ELCs much like the current situation in TO as well. So as long as we don't have more than say one "bad" contract we should be just fine. 

 

Loui seems to have found his game again, and if that sticks going forward we really don't have a bad contract on the team. But if we lock up Kane for 7 years at 8 mil and he's a dud, and Loui has another bad year I'd say thats the end of Benning's run here. Its risky but I'd still love to see a line with Kane and Pettersson on it. 

 

i hear your sentiments

but do not really agree

when we have a quality team in place

say in 3 or more years

it is at that time a risky contract can be considered to put the team over the top

it is foolish to risk torpedoing a rebuild by adding such a contract now

as we really do not know what the needs of the team will be when it is really ready to compete

the rebuild has to happen without these additional savior / long shot hope type players

that is the reason why the loui contract is most criticized

jb over reached a bit on him to try to get this team back into the playoffs

he may still pan out but he really is not a good fit for this rebuild

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