JM_ Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, coastal.view said: i hear your sentiments but do not really agree when we have a quality team in place say in 3 or more years it is at that time a risky contract can be considered to put the team over the top it is foolish to risk torpedoing a rebuild by adding such a contract now as we really do not know what the needs of the team will be when it is really ready to compete the rebuild has to happen without these additional savior / long shot hope type players that is the reason why the loui contract is most criticized jb over reached a bit on him to try to get this team back into the playoffs he may still pan out but he really is not a good fit for this rebuild but... (of course there's a 'but') timing is key here. Lets say EP makes the team next year for sake of argument. By the time his ELC is done Loui will be in his last year, so if he has bottomed out he's easily bought out at that point. Kane would only be 1/2 way through his deal so yes that one would be problematic. I can see both sides of it, Kane brings a lot to the table though and if we don't get it via free agency I don't see anyone yet in the system with his entire skill set, maybe Gadjovich? I disagree though on Loui not being good for the rebuild. Young players need good veterans to learn from and stabilize lines, and Loui fills that role very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: but... (of course there's a 'but') timing is key here. Lets say EP makes the team next year for sake of argument. By the time his ELC is done Loui will be in his last year, so if he has bottomed out he's easily bought out at that point. Kane would only be 1/2 way through his deal so yes that one would be problematic. I can see both sides of it, Kane brings a lot to the table though and if we don't get it via free agency I don't see anyone yet in the system with his entire skill set, maybe Gadjovich? I disagree though on Loui not being good for the rebuild. Young players need good veterans to learn from and stabilize lines, and Loui fills that role very well. we will just have to disagree on loui i like him as a player but a player like vanek has had a bigger impact this year modeling the game for younger players dorsett had a bigger impact.. ask bo about the modeling provided to him by dorsett sundin was very influential, on the development of the sedins and kesler and he was paid 1 year only by the team loui was singed to help and prolong the impact of the sedins i think you are trying to change the narrative about him now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, coastal.view said: we will just have to disagree on loui i like him as a player but a player like vanek has had a bigger impact this year modeling the game for younger players dorsett had a bigger impact.. ask bo about the modeling provided to him by dorsett sundin was very influential, on the development of the sedins and kesler and he was paid 1 year only by the team loui was singed to help and prolong the impact of the sedins i think you are trying to change the narrative about him now no, I'm not. He was always expected to bring a lot of defensive responsibility. He did bring that even through the non-production time. That is very valuable for young player development. We've seen what happens on a team like Edmonton over the years when you have lines of kids, they can get eaten alive defensively. A line of say Dahlen-Pettersson-Loui would be much harder to play against than Dahlen-Petterson-Goldy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 44 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: but... (of course there's a 'but') timing is key here. Lets say EP makes the team next year for sake of argument. By the time his ELC is done Loui will be in his last year, so if he has bottomed out he's easily bought out at that point. Kane would only be 1/2 way through his deal so yes that one would be problematic. I can see both sides of it, Kane brings a lot to the table though and if we don't get it via free agency I don't see anyone yet in the system with his entire skill set, maybe Gadjovich? I disagree though on Loui not being good for the rebuild. Young players need good veterans to learn from and stabilize lines, and Loui fills that role very well. Loui was brought in and paid for both his elite defensive game and a career long "automatic" 50-55 points a year. He wasn't either last year. So far in the games he has played this year, is both of those things (playing an impactfully responsible game and on pace for 50-55 points). You get the next four and 1/2 seasons of what he has done so far this year from Loui and all things are just fine given he also adds a lot of leadership/mentorship and is apparently one of the more well-liked guys in the entire league. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Just imagine actually getting some luck and landing 1st overall. Draft Dahlin, sign Tavares. Rebuild complete and let the cups roll in We can dream. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brbetts542 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Is anyone watching the game and if so can they PM me the details if available...? Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Already has an assist, midway through the first, with only 3 mins TOI Edited November 28, 2017 by Zhukini 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CanuckinEdm Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, brbetts542 said: Is anyone watching the game and if so can they PM me the details if available...? Thank you! Its in Swedish but you can get the game stats here http://www.shl.se/gamecenter/qTJ-3n2Qzyq1C__2017-11-28-1900-vaxjo-lakers-hv71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 This kid is a machine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J.I.A.H.N Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: i hear your sentiments but do not really agree when we have a quality team in place say in 3 or more years it is at that time a risky contract can be considered to put the team over the top it is foolish to risk torpedoing a rebuild by adding such a contract now as we really do not know what the needs of the team will be when it is really ready to compete the rebuild has to happen without these additional savior / long shot hope type players that is the reason why the loui contract is most criticized jb over reached a bit on him to try to get this team back into the playoffs he may still pan out but he really is not a good fit for this rebuild Can you expand on why you would say it would be torpedoing the rebuild? Just curious. I really don't think that Kane and Tavares are long shot hope type players... Honestly, just interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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48MPHSlapShot Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just Elias Pettersson doing Elias Pettersson things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Rahimi with the tripping penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted November 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2017 53 minutes ago, CanuckinEdm said: Its in Swedish but you can get the game stats here http://www.shl.se/gamecenter/qTJ-3n2Qzyq1C__2017-11-28-1900-vaxjo-lakers-hv71 It can be hilarious to follow with that link if you invoke the translator - examples from today's game include: "Ejdsell tries to fool Fasth by walking the kitchen route, but the goalkeeper can handle." "Elias Pettersson in the goal frame!" (he hit a post) "Rahimi pulls down Thörnberg and gets rest for two minutes." "Redhead Robert Rosén and God-like Elias Pettersson score again when the youngster is in preparation for Rosén, making his eleventh point in the last six matches with a shot at the cross." 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Impressed with caliber of hockey once again. If pettersson is gonna score today, he will have to earn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Just imagine actually getting some luck and landing 1st overall. Draft Dahlin, sign Tavares. Rebuild complete and let the cups roll in we would be lucky to land just one of them...landing both of them would be similar to finding living species on Pluto. Out of all the possibilities, we would have a higher chance of signing Tavares at this point than drafting Dahlin, knowing our luck with the draft lotto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, DefCon1 said: we would be lucky to land just one of them...landing both of them would be similar to finding living species on Pluto. Out of all the possibilities, we would have a higher chance of signing Tavares at this point than drafting Dahlin, knowing our luck with the draft lotto. Everyone knows the Oilers are going to win the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Booo! Hv71 is on the board 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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