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1 hour ago, TGT68 said:

I don't really think where he plays is all that important.  a 100 point Pettersson and a 100 point Boeser with an 80 point Horvat between them taking draws, creating space and driving the net will work just fine.  Especially with something like Dahlen Gaudette Lind following that up and something like Gadj Macewen JV following that.  

Adding to this prospect pool while developing what we have will be exciting.  

 

And having the extra guy that can play center down the road insulates from injuries.  Horvat goes down and you slide Pettersen over and elevate someone else.  Team doesn't lose as much as it does when Horvat goes down right now.  

Pettersson Horvat Boeser would likely easily be one of the best lines in the NHL.  I kind of think that is putting all our eggs in one basket though, and requires us to get a legit 2nd line center as well.  (In addition to some of our young guys hitting their ceilings, but that is required for this team anyway)  If Gaudette really does blow us away as some are predicting, then it could totally happen, but I'm reserving judgement on him until we see what he can do in the bigs. Otherwise, who do we have who might be able to step into that center role?  Of course, we could get that 2nd line center either through drafting or trade, but they tend to be harder to come by than wingers.

Besides all this, I've always believed that if a player is strong in a center role, you play him as a center.  Why wouldn't you if centers are harder to come by?  With that said, your point about having multiple guys who CAN pay center just in case is a good one as well.

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Fun fact - all time Points-Per-Game in the NHL is topped by, of course, one Wayne Gretzky.

However, not too far down the list at #8 and #9 are two Swedish players - the same two players who have until recently topped out the SHL in ppg for a U20 player.

If Elias can sneak in between those two in the SHL, could you imagine if he also managed to do so in his NHL career? Or even came somewhat close?!

Dare to dream...

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3 hours ago, TGT68 said:

I don't really think where he plays is all that important.  a 100 point Pettersson and a 100 point Boeser with an 80 point Horvat between them taking draws, creating space and driving the net will work just fine.  Especially with something like Dahlen Gaudette Lind following that up and something like Gadj Macewen JV following that.  

Adding to this prospect pool while developing what we have will be exciting.  

 

And having the extra guy that can play center down the road insulates from injuries.  Horvat goes down and you slide Pettersen over and elevate someone else.  Team doesn't lose as much as it does when Horvat goes down right now.  

I'd be happy if EP and Boeser could just consistently get ~80 point seasons while Horvat chips in ~60 points. 

Horvat does a lot of things not on scoresheet. I think 60 point season from him in yearly basis is a success.

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4 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Yeah 100 points, while certainly not impossible, is probably setting expectations a little too high. I think the point is that elite wingers can make a middle-six centre (speaking generally and not saying Horvat specifically is middle-six) look like a top line player. 

 

When it comes to Pettersson, I don’t think his game is all that different inside the offensive zone whether he’s playing C or W. So depending on how he develops, he might be better served by having another player covering the centreman’s positional/defensive responsibilities and handling draws, while letting him play to his strengths as an offensive creator and a sneaky good defensive player on the backcheck, getting in lanes, and stealing loose pucks (but maybe not as strong in a pure positional sense defending centrally).

 

I dunno. Either way I’m not worried. He’s likely going to provide us with a very good first or second line, whether he’s playing LW, C, or RW, and no matter which players end up being his linemates.

There is some truth to that, like Morrison with Bertuzzi and Naslund, but teams who were strong down the middle did give us fits, even then.  Or, it may have been scoring depth that was the issue.  For myself, though, I think that strong centres are the backbone of the team - they make your defence look better if they have better coverage, and the wingers look better because of their play-making.  If Pettersson can be an effective centre, he would be more valuable for us at that position.

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13 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said:

There is some truth to that, like Morrison with Bertuzzi and Naslund, but teams who were strong down the middle did give us fits, even then.  Or, it may have been scoring depth that was the issue.  For myself, though, I think that strong centres are the backbone of the team - they make your defence look better if they have better coverage, and the wingers look better because of their play-making.  If Pettersson can be an effective centre, he would be more valuable for us at that position.

But with having three potentially strong young centers hopefully we continue to draft well in that area and keep feeding potentially strong centers into the ranks and thus not have the problem we had this year when Horvat and Sutter both went down.  In that case Pettersson's ability to play wing as well as center is also valuable AND the teams ability to load up lines as well as spread them out allows the team to look different at different times and defeat systems put in place to shut the team down.  

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1 hour ago, Coconuts said:

That goal was a beauty! Hoping for a three point game next game, whenever that is. :wub:

 

How many games are left for his squad anyway?

When could he get games this year if he wanted/able too?  When does his playoffs stretch too?

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On ‎2018‎-‎02‎-‎20 at 4:27 AM, dura_mater said:

The irony.  I suppose you're not familiar with the contracts of Crosby and Malkin.

Yeh because McDavid and Draisaitl's are Crosby and Malkin the two best performers in Hockey and Stanley cup rings and all that . McDavid touches 100 points and gets pre paid for the Stanley Cup and follows it up with a non play-off year. Which will happen next year also. I guess Edmonton is not familiar with developing players to be great players.

Not since the glory days 34 years ago.

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3 hours ago, TGT68 said:

But with having three potentially strong young centers hopefully we continue to draft well in that area and keep feeding potentially strong centers into the ranks and thus not have the problem we had this year when Horvat and Sutter both went down.  In that case Pettersson's ability to play wing as well as center is also valuable AND the teams ability to load up lines as well as spread them out allows the team to look different at different times and defeat systems put in place to shut the team down.  

Well be the Houdini of hockey teams...wait, what...where did that first line go?....now there's 3 of them...

Baer / Bo / BB

Dahlen / MacEwen / EP

Virtanen / Gaudette / Goldy

 

All those lines could be lethal...and that's just the kids and Baer....

 

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On 2/24/2018 at 7:18 AM, nergish said:

I don’t think I articulated myself very well, I was actually trying to suggest that Pettersson passes the eye test. His ability is best seen live in game action. His puck skills are Datsyukian. 

 

I just think his inflated, borderline historic numbers are giving fans the wrong impression. He’s not generational. He’s just a really good forward who should excel alongside the skill guys we have accumulated. He fits our pool perfectly, and he is the crown jewel of our development plan, of course. I just don’t personally think he’s as far ahead of guys like Dahlen or even Horvat as some fans believe. Boeser isn’t going to let somebody else take over his starring role easily either, there will be internal competition. To me that’s the best part of this group, they all have some degree of gamebreaking ability... together they could do a ton of damage. 

I don't hear anyone calling him generational...  However, what he could do in that league is unheard of.

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4 hours ago, cory40 said:

Yeh because McDavid and Draisaitl's are Crosby and Malkin the two best performers in Hockey and Stanley cup rings and all that . McDavid touches 100 points and gets pre paid for the Stanley Cup and follows it up with a non play-off year. Which will happen next year also. I guess Edmonton is not familiar with developing players to be great players.

Not since the glory days 34 years ago.

It's funny how you claim I know nothing about hockey but you continue to embarrass yourself and dig a bigger hole. 

Crosby got "pre paid for the Stanley Cup" as you like to say.  When did he sign his $8.7M contract?  2008.  When did the Pens win their first cup? 2009; AFTER signing Crosby.  That's AFTER signing him to his massive contract.  So your argument that McDavid is somehow different to Crosby because McDavid is getting "pre paid" to win a cup is moot as that's exactly what the Pens did with Crosby.

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8 hours ago, TGT68 said:

But with having three potentially strong young centers hopefully we continue to draft well in that area and keep feeding potentially strong centers into the ranks and thus not have the problem we had this year when Horvat and Sutter both went down.  In that case Pettersson's ability to play wing as well as center is also valuable AND the teams ability to load up lines as well as spread them out allows the team to look different at different times and defeat systems put in place to shut the team down.  

Does anyone have a 100% success rate in their draft choices?  I think we'll need still more good young centres before we have a serious contending team.

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10 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

Well be the Houdini of hockey teams...wait, what...where did that first line go?....now there's 3 of them...

Baer / Bo / BB

Dahlen / MacEwen / EP

Virtanen / Gaudette / Goldy

 

All those lines could be lethal...and that's just the kids and Baer....

 

Got room for Gadjovich and Lind in that group?  Granlund and Gaunce could center the fourth line or Sutter for a few more years. 

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