kloubek Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Alflives said: He’s worth nothing. Soft or not, his dual 61 point seasons would suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 So, that Pettersson guy is pretty good, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: So, that Pettersson guy is pretty good, eh? I heard he's William Nylander good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: I heard he's William Nylander good Well let's not go nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 50 minutes ago, kloubek said: Soft or not, his dual 61 point seasons would suggest otherwise. If Nylander can put up 60 points in consecutive seasons....why are people so conservative on what EP might be able to accomplish this year....EP will go into the corners, he will steal pucks and break up odd man rushes and.....he will block the odd shot as well as having WAY mor talent than Willy.... 70 points is the minimum he puts up given 80 games played and given only 10 points or so in his first 20 games...from there no team is going to keep him from getting a PPG ....just watch... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: If Nylander can put up 60 points in consecutive seasons....why are people so conservative on what EP might be able to accomplish this year....EP will go into the corners, he will steal pucks and break up odd man rushes and.....he will block the odd shot as well as having WAY mor talent than Willy.... 70 points is the minimum he puts up given 80 games played and given only 10 points or so in his first 20 games...from there no team is going to keep him from getting a PPG ....just watch... You ever heard the term don't count your chickens before they hatch? Don't count your money while you're sitting at the table? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: You ever heard the term don't count your chickens before they hatch? Don't count your money while you're sitting at the table? This post is Kenny Rogers approved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: If Nylander can put up 60 points in consecutive seasons....why are people so conservative on what EP might be able to accomplish this year....EP will go into the corners, he will steal pucks and break up odd man rushes and.....he will block the odd shot as well as having WAY mor talent than Willy.... 70 points is the minimum he puts up given 80 games played and given only 10 points or so in his first 20 games...from there no team is going to keep him from getting a PPG ....just watch... Maybe. Maybe not. Players develop at different rates, and Nylander's rookie year was not as impressive as his .75ppg seasons after that. Once in his prime, I expect Pettersson to be a noticeably better rounded player than Nylander. But I do think we want to temper expectations in his first year. I think he will do just fine as well, and may very well flourish right away - but he may develop better in a sheltered role with less pressure. We aren't going anywhere next season anyway, so I'd rather focus on continued development the proper way rather than put him in a situation where he is expected to carry the team on his back at such an early age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, kloubek said: Maybe. Maybe not. Players develop at different rates, and Nylander's rookie year was not as impressive as his .75ppg seasons after that. Once in his prime, I expect Pettersson to be a noticeably better rounded player than Nylander. But I do think we want to temper expectations in his first year. I think he will do just fine as well, and may very well flourish right away - but he may develop better in a sheltered role with less pressure. We aren't going anywhere next season anyway, so I'd rather focus on continued development the proper way rather than put him in a situation where he is expected to carry the team on his back at such an early age. I have no problem with you tempering your expectations.... I will continue looking at things as they are and not wring my hands about what "could go wrong".... The fact is we have 2 of the best prospects/players we have ever had...both BB and EP are in the same league as Bure and Linden....PLUS we have many more "A" level prospects... Temper all you want but these kids are going to change your mind....not me.... ....just watch...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 If he plays with Eriksson and Gagner - 40 points If he plays with Horvat and Boeser - 70+ points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: If he plays with Eriksson and Gagner - 40 points If he plays with Horvat and Boeser - 70+ points Likely, he plays 5v5 with Gagner/Loui and PP with Bo and Brock... so... 55+ ? Funny, that’s actually where I’m at with my expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: If he plays with Eriksson and Gagner - 40 points If he plays with Horvat and Boeser - 70+ points I was thinking putting him on a line with Sutter and Virtanen might be nice. Would help the other two guys offensively while also sheltering Pettersson a bit. Would help Sutters trade value if they went that route and do wonders for Virtanens confidence. Also Pettersson on the number one pp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: If Nylander can put up 60 points in consecutive seasons....why are people so conservative on what EP might be able to accomplish this year....EP will go into the corners, he will steal pucks and break up odd man rushes and.....he will block the odd shot as well as having WAY mor talent than Willy.... 70 points is the minimum he puts up given 80 games played and given only 10 points or so in his first 20 games...from there no team is going to keep him from getting a PPG ....just watch... The only reason I would be conservative is because he isn't playing with quite the offensive players that Nylander had to start. But over the next couple of years I think Petersson will be by far the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchincanucks Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 My expectations for Pettersson is 15-20 goals and 40 points. But I project he actually gets 60 points+. I hope he plays centre if that is where he projects to be, which I do. For people saying get him on the wing to start is a mistake to me. 5 games is no big deal but playing wing is not giving him the experience he needs at centre. Better to gain that experience now. If Pettersson played centre last year not sure people would even be talking about it, and if he plays wing this year he will have the same questions next year. Canucks biggest need is a playmaking centre, cause Horvat is more of a goal scoring centre, power forward type, driving the net. Pettersson has the ability to make those around him better, and at the centre ice position maximizes those skills. On the wing he might get more breakaways, stripping passes back to defence, and maybe get more points. That is a trade off I would make to develop a true number 1 centre for years to come. If Dahlen doesn’t make the team, which is unlikely, but would love if he did, I would like to see him with Baertschi on left Virtanen on right. Could see him dangling the d to find an open Virtanen to get off his shot. Or a sweet feed on the rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 56 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: I was thinking putting him on a line with Sutter and Virtanen might be nice. Would help the other two guys offensively while also sheltering Pettersson a bit. Would help Sutters trade value if they went that route and do wonders for Virtanens confidence. Also Pettersson on the number one pp. I don't usually agree with you , but a few games with those 2 to start the season might just turn into something.... Jake is turning into a puck hound and is due to have more luck on offensive side of things even without EP....with EP feeding him slick passes for breakaways or cross crease feeds he could suddenly become a 25-30 goal scorer. Sutter would stabilize the line and given most of the season...if the line is clicking along ...why not keep it together...Sutter gets back to being a 20+ goal scorer.... Still rather see EP with BB and BH ....that would be a line that strikes fear into opposing D. and goalie.... A full year of that might just produce 3 PPG players in one swell foop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Dixon Ward said: The only reason I would be conservative is because he isn't playing with quite the offensive players that Nylander had to start. But over the next couple of years I think Petersson will be by far the better player. If he gets to play with Bo and Brock ...then I think that is (this year coming up) going to be a wash with Mathews and Marner EP's slow start to a new environment is the only reason I am realistically hoping for 70 points and not 80. If we get an average of 2 PP's per game...which is probably low....EP is going to create a goal at least every second game (1 goal in 4 PP's) and then there is all the rest of the game. It's not like he is passing the puck to Gaunce, etc. ...he will be setting up Brock and Bo and likely Quinn and/or Oli....the back of the net will be seen roughly 25% of the time with these guys on it ...most of the time they will have half the net to shoot at anyway...with the passing these guys are capable of. Henrik was the greatest passer we ever had...both EP and QH have the chance to be even better ...and BB and BH are not far behind ( I think BB is as good a passer as Daniel was now) We are in for a treat watching these guys pass there way out trouble all season long...! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I have no problem with you tempering your expectations.... I will continue looking at things as they are and not wring my hands about what "could go wrong".... The fact is we have 2 of the best prospects/players we have ever had...both BB and EP are in the same league as Bure and Linden....PLUS we have many more "A" level prospects... Temper all you want but these kids are going to change your mind....not me.... ....just watch...! They aren't going to "change my mind". They are both gold prospects and will do very well in this league. As will Hughes. But as far as our differing opinions on how much Pettersson will contribute right away (and Hughes, as mentioned in your first post in our conversation) then I HOPE I'm the one who's wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, kloubek said: They aren't going to "change my mind". They are both gold prospects and will do very well in this league. As will Hughes. But as far as our differing opinions on how much Pettersson will contribute right away (and Hughes, as mentioned in your first post in our conversation) then I HOPE I'm the one who's wrong. Well he said Pedan is a better skater than Edler and that Cassels would be a solid 3rd liner. So I would go with your thoughts on the matter lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I don't usually agree with you , but a few games with those 2 to start the season might just turn into something.... Jake is turning into a puck hound and is due to have more luck on offensive side of things even without EP....with EP feeding him slick passes for breakaways or cross crease feeds he could suddenly become a 25-30 goal scorer. Sutter would stabilize the line and given most of the season...if the line is clicking along ...why not keep it together...Sutter gets back to being a 20+ goal scorer.... Still rather see EP with BB and BH ....that would be a line that strikes fear into opposing D. and goalie.... A full year of that might just produce 3 PPG players in one swell foop.... While I love what Sutter brings to the game, I would prefer him in a defensive specialist role. Although to start out, having a defensive That said, I agree with Pettersson and Virtanen likely having incredible chemistry simply due to their style of play. With Virtanen's physical game and game-breaking speed, feeding off Pettersson's playmaking and hockey IQ, I think the Canucks will have a 1B line within 2 years. On top of that, add Dahlen's history with Elias and it could make an extremely dangerous 1st line. How awesome would it be to have 2 players of Horvat and Boeser's caliber playing on what could be considered a 2nd line. Dahlen - Pettersson - Virtanen Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Sure looks exciting to me.......... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, zduck14 said: While I love what Sutter brings to the game, I would prefer him in a defensive specialist role. Although to start out, having a defensive That said, I agree with Pettersson and Virtanen likely having incredible chemistry simply due to their style of play. With Virtanen's physical game and game-breaking speed, feeding off Pettersson's playmaking and hockey IQ, I think the Canucks will have a 1B line within 2 years. On top of that, add Dahlen's history with Elias and it could make an extremely dangerous 1st line. How awesome would it be to have 2 players of Horvat and Boeser's caliber playing on what could be considered a 2nd line. Dahlen - Pettersson - Virtanen Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Sure looks exciting to me.......... I hope to see those 2 lines by Xmas...could well be magic...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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