aGENT Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, mikeyman109 said: if i was the oilers I wouldn't make that trade. I think they can pry a better defenseman for their Number 1 pick this year. Maybe from Ottawa RNH, Benning and their 1st for EK... Could be a smart play for EDM actually. But they'd have to do it after July 1 to ensure EK will re-sign in that toilet Also have to find someone to take on Lucic's contract so they could afford to extend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, aGENT said: RNH, Benning and their 1st for EK... Could be a smart play for EDM actually. But they'd have to do it after July 1 to ensure EK will re-sign in that toilet Also have to find someone to take on Lucic's contract so they could afford to extend him. This i agree with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Imagine EK feeding McDavid all game long @Canuck Surfer...yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: Imagine EK feeding McDavid all game long @Canuck Surfer...yikes If Ottawa has really decided to give up on EK this would be a successful spot for him. The oilers would be scarier for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: RNH, Benning and their 1st for EK... Could be a smart play for EDM actually. But they'd have to do it after July 1 to ensure EK will re-sign in that toilet Also have to find someone to take on Lucic's contract so they could afford to extend him. I can't imagine a deal involving EDM and Karlsson that doesn't include Draisaitl. They targeted Point from Tampa it seemed and RNH just wouldn't cut it for me. Edmonton probably has to dump Draisaitl's contract if there is any hope of extending Karlsson (along with RNH or Lucic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, theo5789 said: I can't imagine a deal involving EDM and Karlsson that doesn't include Draisaitl. They targeted Point from Tampa it seemed and RNH just wouldn't cut it for me. Edmonton probably has to dump Draisaitl's contract if there is any hope of extending Karlsson (along with RNH or Lucic). If I'm EDM, I don't think I'm giving up Drai AND my (presently) top 10 (and potentially lotto) 1st pick this draft. I doubt OTT does much better than that offer +/-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, theo5789 said: I can't imagine a deal involving EDM and Karlsson that doesn't include Draisaitl. They targeted Point from Tampa it seemed and RNH just wouldn't cut it for me. Edmonton probably has to dump Draisaitl's contract if there is any hope of extending Karlsson (along with RNH or Lucic). They might get both Connor and Draistil to adjust if it meant adding EK, I hope it doesn't happen because that's the type of deal that will win a cup but it would be a good move for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, aGENT said: If I'm EDM, I don't think I'm giving up Drai AND my (presently) top 10 (and potentially lotto) 1st pick this draft. I doubt OTT does much better than that offer +/-. if I am Ott it depends on where they are with EK and if they think they have a chance to win a cup with him. If they trade EK and pick up their 1st rounder this year they have a shot at Boqvist, Bouchard Dobson or even Dahlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, aGENT said: I agree but Dahlin or Bouchard could step in earlier than some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, mikeyman109 said: Boqvist is not the same as Petterson. Petterson plays forward and was picked in a draft that did not have the skilled Defensemen that are in this Draft. He is basically a forward that plays on the blueline. He is "on the smaller side" as you put it. This is a disadvantage in our division and one only has to look at the Stecher on Staal moment in the Minny game to prove my point. We play half our games in the opponents arena, do you not think Kopitar will be out against Boqvist every shift in LA, Thornton or one of the bigger Sharks in San Jose, how about Getzlaf on Boqvist in Anaheim? Its not just one mis-match its many. you can discount the size if you wish but Bouchard is scoring just as much as Bopqvist is and again is the Captain of his team, also has played with Juolevi in London, has a much larger sample size of games to assess, played playoffs in The OHL and has done this on the smaller ice surface which is the same game as the NHL. Boqvist has the very real ability to become a karlsson level Defencemen. He’s also one of the youngest players in the draft, so scouts are really excited about his potential upside. I guess it depends on what type of Defencemen the chooser sees as more valuable, a Karlsson or a Doughty. I don’t think you could go wrong with either personally. However, given our overall lack of any defensive prospect depth, I also think the team should go with Bouchard, as he is more of a guarantee. If the Canucks has a young top 4 D in place already (maybe like a Adam larsson in Edmonton or a Dumba in minny) it would make more sense for them to shoot for the high ceiling player, like they did last year taking pettersson because they already have the reliable two way guy in horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Boqvist vs brannstrom. Who do you take and why? Boqvist due to him being a right handed D. We drafted a good 2 way D who is a lefty in Juolevi. I think it is a good comparison, part of me says well then why is Boqvist suppose to go top 5 when Brannstrom was a bit of a surprise at 15 in 2017. Brannstrom is a bit smaller, but looks like he is now 5'10 180. I dont think there is an issue drafting a offensive sub 6ft D man, but we need to have a good reliable D partner for him to play with and we need some form of protection for all our young kids going forward. Dont need a fighter, but if any top end player gets run or hit late with a dirty shot almost anyone on the ice at the time should go after that player immediately. Canucks rarely do that it seems though. Canucks need a Brendan lemieux type forward to replace Dorsett. Why do you think their draft positions are so different Forsberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, aGENT said: Imagine EK feeding McDavid all game long @Canuck Surfer...yikes Thought you said EKlund sending McDavid rumours all game LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Canadian Clay said: Boqvist has the very real ability to become a karlsson level Defencemen. He’s also one of the youngest players in the draft, so scouts are really excited about his potential upside. I guess it depends on what type of Defencemen the chooser sees as more valuable, a Karlsson or a Doughty. I don’t think you could go wrong with either personally. However, given our overall lack of any defensive prospect depth, I also think the team should go with Bouchard, as he is more of a guarantee. If the Canucks has a young top 4 D in place already (maybe like a Adam larsson in Edmonton or a Dumba in minny) it would make more sense for them to shoot for the high ceiling player, like they did last year taking pettersson because they already have the reliable two way guy in horvat Taking it to the next level in the NHL is exactly why I pick Bouchard over Boqvist. Im not saying that Boqvist isnt talented. Im not saying he wont help a team. I am saying that given what seems to be a trend is that the bigger defense survives the playoff grind better than the smaller defensemen. I like what Tampa bay has done with their group. They got a bit lucky with drafting Hedman but really they have big men that can skate and protect in their end. I think Doughty is a better D man than Karlsson and I'm sure we could argue their merits back and forth but We need bigger men to survive the playoffs. I am not advocating giving up skill for size, I want both. Bouchard is the better fit in that statement. Boqvist fans have their say as well. again it really doesn't matter it only matters what Benning and the Canucs think. Its a done argument for me because the Boqvist fans have their preference the Bouchard fans have theirs, others want a forward in Svechnikov or Zadina. I would rather pick a D this year and Hughes next year but thats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Boqvist due to him being a right handed D. We drafted a good 2 way D who is a lefty in Juolevi. I think it is a good comparison, part of me says well then why is Boqvist suppose to go top 5 when Brannstrom was a bit of a surprise at 15 in 2017. Brannstrom is a bit smaller, but looks like he is now 5'10 180. I dont think there is an issue drafting a offensive sub 6ft D man, but we need to have a good reliable D partner for him to play with and we need some form of protection for all our young kids going forward. Dont need a fighter, but if any top end player gets run or hit late with a dirty shot almost anyone on the ice at the time should go after that player immediately. Canucks rarely do that it seems though. Canucks need a Brendan lemieux type forward to replace Dorsett. Why do you think their draft positions are so different Forsberg? Bouchard is a R shooting D as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I’m truly surprised more people aren’t on the Bouchard band wagon. The guys stats are crazy and I’ve seen him play several times and he definitely passes the eye test. His passing is sublime. He has big leadership qualities and he’s big. I like my defence bigger then I care about size in forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Canadian Clay said: If the Canucks has a young top 4 D in place already (maybe like a Adam larsson in Edmonton or a Dumba in minny) it would make more sense for them to shoot for the high ceiling player, like they did last year taking pettersson because they already have the reliable two way guy in horvat 1 minute ago, messier's_elbow said: I’m truly surprised more people aren’t on the Bouchard band wagon. The guys stats are crazy and I’ve seen him play several times and he definitely passes the eye test. His passing is sublime. He has big leadership qualities and he’s big. I like my defence bigger then I care about size in forwards. It's like last year's draft all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: It's like last year's draft all over again I do love me some Joulevi, and it would be great if he could turn into the two way D who plays beside an offensive D like boqvist. But he may not get to that point, so it’s still best to (imo) to pick the all round D this. However, I wouldn’t be mad no matter which D JB picks in the 1st round, if he picks a D at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Heard on the radio some guys saying some scouts are comparing Dhalin to the greatest player in hockey history (no...not Stan Smyl) BOBBY ORR!!!!! The Canucks deserve some BOBBY ORR!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Heard on the radio some guys saying some scouts are comparing Dhalin to the greatest player in hockey history (no...not Stan Smyl) BOBBY ORR!!!!! The Canucks deserve some BOBBY ORR!!!!! they said it on one of the TV broadcasts as well. He is very very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, mikeyman109 said: if i was the oilers I wouldn't make that trade. I think they can pry a better defenseman for their Number 1 pick this year. Maybe from Ottawa True. But can they afford Karlsson’s cap? Ottawa would want the Oilers pick and a player like JP. If I was Cherelli I would go hard after Karlsson, but would Karlsson agree to re sign with Edmonton? Tanev has had a different appeal due to his contract and will garner a lot of interest. A good prospect and a 1st or a bonfide top prospect or top 15 straight up if JB has his guy available. EmW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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