mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: True. But can they afford Karlsson’s cap? Ottawa would want the Oilers pick and a player like JP. If I was Cherelli I would go hard after Karlsson, but would Karlsson agree to re sign with Edmonton? Tanev has had a different appeal due to his contract and will garner a lot of interest. A good prospect and a 1st or a bonfide top prospect or top 15 straight up if JB has his guy available. EmW Tanevs injury woes will weigh in the trade and he is a good player but not in Karlssons category. If Chiarelli was going to add a Karlsson i am sure you would see a Mc David and Draisaitl forego some salary to add him and improve their cup chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: I’m truly surprised more people aren’t on the Bouchard band wagon. The guys stats are crazy and I’ve seen him play several times and he definitely passes the eye test. His passing is sublime. He has big leadership qualities and he’s big. I like my defence bigger then I care about size in forwards. I'm on board. I'd go so far as to take him second if we miss out on Dahlin. Granted, he's pretty old for the draft, but It's hard to argue against a 1.31ppg draft year performance in the OHL for a Defensman. The kid is a scoring machine. I'd love to get Svech or Zadina, but I think a Dman will be more valuable for us going forward. Maybe trade down, depending what the landscape looks like on draft day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Boqvist due to him being a right handed D. We drafted a good 2 way D who is a lefty in Juolevi. I think it is a good comparison, part of me says well then why is Boqvist suppose to go top 5 when Brannstrom was a bit of a surprise at 15 in 2017. Brannstrom is a bit smaller, but looks like he is now 5'10 180. I dont think there is an issue drafting a offensive sub 6ft D man, but we need to have a good reliable D partner for him to play with and we need some form of protection for all our young kids going forward. Dont need a fighter, but if any top end player gets run or hit late with a dirty shot almost anyone on the ice at the time should go after that player immediately. Canucks rarely do that it seems though. Canucks need a Brendan lemieux type forward to replace Dorsett. Why do you think their draft positions are so different Forsberg? Brannstrom is a very good skater and reads the play so well, he’s also a late birthday (he’s was only 14 days) away from being in this years draft. Stats wise he put up better numbers than Boqvist. Looking back at last year’s draft, it’s surprisingly deep just didn’t have the top end draws of a Svech and Dahlin, I think there are going to be a lot of solid NHLers to come out of the 2017 draft. Pettersson broke the U20 Swedish record, Vilardi is a 1.85 ppg, Andersson is already ripping up the AHL, Glass, Frost, Tolvanen, Kostin, Necas, Mittelstadt, heck Lind, Timmins and Hague fell into the 2nd round. I think we are going to look back and compare that draft to 2003. But then again, this year is also really deep, even said to be more so, so Honestly I’m not sure, Maybe the draw of Dahlin has brought more light onto Swedish defense and Boqvist is receiving the benefit of that. I think the fact that Boqvist has a better shot makes him more of the complete “offensive” package. I think that if Hughes had a shot, he’d be in the top 3 consideration, he’s the best skater in the draft (with boqvist closely behind). He’s put up 28 points in 34 games with as a true 18 year old freshman which is very impressive. That’s a higher production rate than our very own Gaudette did….in his draft + 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Dhalin on potentially playing for the Canucks : That would be sick" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: True. But can they afford Karlsson’s cap? Ottawa would want the Oilers pick and a player like JP. If I was Cherelli I would go hard after Karlsson, but would Karlsson agree to re sign with Edmonton? Tanev has had a different appeal due to his contract and will garner a lot of interest. A good prospect and a 1st or a bonfide top prospect or top 15 straight up if JB has his guy available. EmW The can just dump Russell and go after signing green in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/rasmus-dahlin-canucks-pressure-top-prospect/ Drooling over Petterson + Dahlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Dahlin26 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Some highlights of Boqvist #7. The kid has a massive ceiling, one of the youngest players in the draft, no skating issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: The can just dump Russell and go after signing green in the offseason. Who are they going to 'dump' Russell to? They'd likely have to take cap back and/or sweeten the deal. Same with Lucic. They're presently too handcuffed with cap to really make any of the moves they need to, to improve. And other GM's aren't going to line up to do them any favours to help them out of it. They don't have much left in the way of expendable assets to help grease the wheels either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: Who are they going to 'dump' Russell to? They'd likely have to take cap back and/or sweeten the deal. Same with Lucic. They're presently too handcuffed with cap to really make any of the moves they need to, to improve. And other GM's aren't going to line up to do them any favours to help them out of it. They don't have much left in the way of expendable assets to help grease the wheels either. Yeah they will have to add something like. Russell + a 3rd to ducks for a 5th. Ducks will be loosing buchemin and likely juice. They could use a player like russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Squamfan said: Dhalin on potentially playing for the Canucks : That would be sick" Yea was an awesome interview - gonna break all our hearts if he goes somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, R3aL said: Yea was an awesome interview - gonna break all our hearts if he goes somewhere else its canucks luck, so you know its not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: The can just dump Russell and go after signing green in the offseason. Thought of that, but Karlsson is next level good over Green. Green is a short term fix, great for a team with loads of d depth or a rebuilding club. The Ottawa GM hasn’t made the best trades, making a serious move for Karlsson would be panacea to the masses in Edmonton. Still think they have bigger issues than one guy can fix there, but I am sick of them being in the running for the first OA pick every year. EmW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Squamfan said: its canucks luck, so you know its not going to happen maybe u just jinxed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: Thought of that, but Karlsson is next level good over Green. Green is a short term fix, great for a team with loads of d depth or a rebuilding club. The Ottawa GM hasn’t made the best trades, making a serious move for Karlsson would be panacea to the masses in Edmonton. Still think they have bigger issues than one guy can fix there, but I am sick of them being in the running for the first OA pick every year. EmW I just think Karlsson is going to be expensive to acquire and he’s already stated he going to be looking for top dollar. Which is 12 million +. I can’t see the oilers taking on another big cap hit like that. Where are green allows them to keep there top 7 draft pick. They can draft a Boqvist, Bouchard type and sign green in the short term till those players develop. That would save them from going into further cap hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Squamfan said: its canucks luck, so you know its not going to happen As expected but I'll continue to pray/dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, mikeyman109 said: Tanevs injury woes will weigh in the trade and he is a good player but not in Karlssons category. If Chiarelli was going to add a Karlsson i am sure you would see a Mc David and Draisaitl forego some salary to add him and improve their cup chances. Neither McJesus or Drai can forgo salary. The cap is what it is in Edmonton. Wasn’t meaning to compare Tanev to Karlsson at all. Just that Karlsson would be a very expensive option for Edmonton both in his cap hit and the cost to get him. Tanev is the much more affordable target that could bring instant dividends to a team that has defensive woes. He is a goalies best friend and has excellent ratings in almost every defensive category. Edmonton could afford the ask, afford the cap hit and keep all of their current talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: Bomquist’s http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adam+boqvist ADAM BOQVIST Sorry, that's been driving me a little squirelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Please, hockey gods. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, aGENT said: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adam+boqvist ADAM BOQVIST Sorry, that's been driving me a little squirelly if thats all that has been driving you crazy in this discussion you haven't been paying attention. i never took typing in school so i misspell everything here despite my degree in english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 hours ago, aGENT said: Yes they could. Except they need him now, not in 2-3 years Yes Edmonton do need a PMD right now! And yes D also often take a year longer to arrive. But that is the problem with a commonly espoused viewpoint here; ''Oh D take longer to develop, therefore are less reliable as a pick, So pick a forward BPA!'' And ''you can then get a good D later in the draft?'' Its still bull cookies! It means you have to be more forward thinking. Draft the D who are BPA when they are available. Do it often enough you are not in a situation of scarcity like us & Edmonton. And be patient, then, to develop them! Two teams that have managed to escape full down cycles? Anaheim & Boston! Each have invested multiple 1st round picks in the last 10 years towards D. As well as mined good finds our of the 2knd and later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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