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19 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

How many 6'4, 220+lbs top-6 forwards are there in the league?

 

Hughes and Boqvist will likely get worked by Getzlaf strength. Bouchard likely get's burned by Kane agility. Is one deficiency better than the other?

Alternatively.  how many players like Kane/Kucherov in the league are there?  For every 1 Patrick Kane there is 100 Evander Kanes.  I don't think there's a bad choice out of the 3 myself but have my opinions on choices

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6 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Alternatively.  how many players like Kane/Kucherov in the league are there?  For every 1 Patrick Kane there is 100 Evander Kanes.  I don't think there's a bad choice out of the 3 myself but have my opinions on choices

I think a littler guy had better produce offence at a rate that covers for his defensive liabilities.  That's why I'm kind of worried about Stecher's future with us.  

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4 hours ago, aGENT said:

To be fair, IMO they're using Cam Robinson the scout (who happens to work for Dobber) as a 'resource'. It's small, but there is a distinction there. But yes, like any scout/ranking list you have to take with context of where they're coming from.

 

Whatever you think of his rankings, I do like that he correctly identifies and spells out that there are pretty clear tiers in the draft for all those linear 'consensus BPA' people...

 

 

Yes, I liked that as well.  It should make Canucks fans feel a little better if we drop to 6/7.

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1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Outside of the usual suspects and people who might fall I am looking at Sean Durzi, Ty dellandrea and Zavier Bernard for potential late 2nd and early 3rd round picks should they be there

 

Anyone else??

Cole Fonstad, Liam Foudy, Filip Hollander, Kyle Topping, Nils Lundkvist are names that intrigue me for a late 2nd and 3rd round picks. Somebody on these boards has been “pumping the tires” of Nils Lundkvist and he’s moving up boards lately. If he’s there at our early 2nd I’d really like that pick. Plays a similar skilled game at a shade bellow Boqvist but for some reason wasn’t getting any hype.

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1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said:

Cole Fonstad, Liam Foudy, Filip Hollander, Kyle Topping, Nils Lundkvist are names that intrigue me for a late 2nd and 3rd round picks. Somebody on these boards has been “pumping the tires” of Nils Lundkvist and he’s moving up boards lately. If he’s there at our early 2nd I’d really like that pick. Plays a similar skilled game at a shade bellow Boqvist but for some reason wasn’t getting any hype.

I'm liking the sounds of Borquist, but could he be a faller in the draft, like Littlegren was?  Maybe, if he falls, we could trade Tanev for a middle of the first round pick and steal Borquist?

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15 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

Are you implying that Stecher is a defensive liability?

are you implying that he isnt? did you see him on Staals goal last week against Minny? He battles ok in the corners and skates well but that doesnt mean success in his own end. he is undersize and we have way too many players that play smaller than they are. I like Stecher, i really do and if he is the One and I say ONE again for impact player that is that small and plays D great. We need to have a player like that for Offense from the D but only one. The rest have to be able to move the puck up and join the offense when they can do it intelligently.They are called defense for a reason. We need some better 1-4 D to help defend.

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With Ryan Ellis coming off the Books in summer of 2019 and Nashville Coming into serious cap troubles with young guys coming up, I wonder if there is a possibility they move him and get something for him rather than just running his contract out, i would love to acquire this guy at draft day, I know he would be pricey but would also solve a lot of issues, maybe a sign and trade scenario, rather give him 6 mill a year than over pay for OEL or Karlsson at 9-12 a year 

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2 hours ago, Tryamkin88 said:

I think if we get the 1st pick, we take it and run. If we get say 2-3, I'd trade down to 4-5 if I'm confident Boqvist\dman is available. I'd freaken love Svechnikov but we just can't make the mistake the Oilers and the Sabres made, going heavy on the forwards. We can't take Boqvist at 2nd cause we could trade down and get him at 4th. 

Debatable I could see Benning taking Boqvist early if that’s his guy. I wouldn’t want to see it because BPA. However if you have a favourite and he’s only ranked to go a couple spots after your pick trading down leaves a lot of risk. What if the guy sitting at 3rd likes Boqvist more than Zadina? Now you’ve lost your guy. I could see this scenario happen for Boqvist but trading down is a more likely scenario if Hughes or Bouchard is Bennings guy.

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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

I'm liking the sounds of Borquist, but could he be a faller in the draft, like Littlegren was?  Maybe, if he falls, we could trade Tanev for a middle of the first round pick and steal Borquist?

I dont see Boqvist falling in this draft. Too many people are drooling over his speed and offensive up side. I see it if his game translates well to N america. i would rather have seen him in Junior over here first to get excited about him.  He has skill I just think he has not played enough games to assess him as a top 4 pick. Someone will take him. and take him as high as maybe 2. depending on their team needs. If he is not gone in the top 5 i will be amazed. My opinion is on other players before him but people like him.

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Just now, flickyoursedin said:

Debatable I could see Benning taking Boqvist early if that’s his guy. I wouldn’t want to see it because BPA. However if you have a favourite and he’s only ranked to go a couple spots after your pick trading down leaves a lot of risk. What if the guy sitting at 3rd likes Boqvist more than Zadina? Now you’ve lost your guy. I could see this scenario happen for Boqvist but trading down is a more likely scenario if Hughes or Bouchard is Bennings guy.

This i could see happen. and if no trade makes sense just taking his guy anyways.

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2 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

Debatable I could see Benning taking Boqvist early if that’s his guy. I wouldn’t want to see it because BPA. However if you have a favourite and he’s only ranked to go a couple spots after your pick trading down leaves a lot of risk. What if the guy sitting at 3rd likes Boqvist more than Zadina? Now you’ve lost your guy. I could see this scenario happen for Boqvist but trading down is a more likely scenario if Hughes or Bouchard is Bennings guy.

I wonder how much moving down from 4 to 10 would get us?  Could that get us the fourth we are missing this year?

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5 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said:

With Ryan Ellis coming off the Books in summer of 2019 and Nashville Coming into serious cap troubles with young guys coming up, I wonder if there is a possibility they move him and get something for him rather than just running his contract out, i would love to acquire this guy at draft day, I know he would be pricey but would also solve a lot of issues, maybe a sign and trade scenario, rather give him 6 mill a year than over pay for OEL or Karlsson at 9-12 a year 

My thoughts exactly. No way nashville will be able to afford him. I could see a lot of players making to FA next year and the crop is mint. 

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I'm liking the sounds of Borquist, but could he be a faller in the draft, like Littlegren was?  Maybe, if he falls, we could trade Tanev for a middle of the first round pick and steal Borquist?

Anything is possible. Some GMs make some crazy picks. If there is a guy that slides I feel like it’s Hughes. I hate to pick on the little guy. I am a fan of Hughes and he is the biggest (lol) boom or bust of this draft class I feel. Only because his talents could make him the best offensive dman in this draft class if he can overcome his size. If Hughes slides early to mid-teens I’m hoping Benning makes that big Tanev trade and scoops him up. The risk is definitely worth that draft slot but not top 10 for me.

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6 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said:

With Ryan Ellis coming off the Books in summer of 2019 and Nashville Coming into serious cap troubles with young guys coming up, I wonder if there is a possibility they move him and get something for him rather than just running his contract out, i would love to acquire this guy at draft day, I know he would be pricey but would also solve a lot of issues, maybe a sign and trade scenario, rather give him 6 mill a year than over pay for OEL or Karlsson at 9-12 a year 

I dont see a scenario where Nashville would move Ellis. cap issues or not they would move someone else to keep him. they need D like everyone else.

OEL is not someone we need either. We need to draft out D and be prepared to succeed with it. think 4 years out from today. we arent trading or signing free agent D to pull us out of this rebuild. Patience will be needed.

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I think you are so right! Fans have to look at most moves in light of how they help the team 3 - 4 years out. The time line is everything. Also add the idea that Benning cannot settle for a mediocre 'contender'. Good enough to make playoffs but not a serious contender. That in itself can lead to tough decisions and moves as the fanbase can easily be willing to settle for the quick fix.  

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

I think a littler guy had better produce offence at a rate that covers for his defensive liabilities.  That's why I'm kind of worried about Stecher's future with us.  

Stecher will figure it out. He is way too determined to not improve. 

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33 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said:

With Ryan Ellis coming off the Books in summer of 2019 and Nashville Coming into serious cap troubles with young guys coming up, I wonder if there is a possibility they move him and get something for him rather than just running his contract out, i would love to acquire this guy at draft day, I know he would be pricey but would also solve a lot of issues, maybe a sign and trade scenario, rather give him 6 mill a year than over pay for OEL or Karlsson at 9-12 a year 

They've got Fabbro to plug in and keep on chugging plus whatever return they get for trading Ellis. They'll be fine :lol:

 

46 minutes ago, dura_mater said:

Yes, I liked that as well.  It should make Canucks fans feel a little better if we drop to 6/7.

Fat chance :lol:

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26 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

Anything is possible. Some GMs make some crazy picks. If there is a guy that slides I feel like it’s Hughes. I hate to pick on the little guy. I am a fan of Hughes and he is the biggest (lol) boom or bust of this draft class I feel. Only because his talents could make him the best offensive dman in this draft class if he can overcome his size. If Hughes slides early to mid-teens I’m hoping Benning makes that big Tanev trade and scoops him up. The risk is definitely worth that draft slot but not top 10 for me.

I think Hughes is the best skater in this draft. His edge work is unreal. He creates offense at ease. But, he definitely is on the small side and he doesnt necessarily focus on dzone coverage. 

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