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Just now, Warhippy said:

Caucks win 1st overall pick.  Draft Dahlin.  Keep Dahlin and Petterson overseas for just 1 more year

 

TSN, Botchford, Sportsnet and Cherry all lose their collective minds while this fan base implodes

I have a feeling both players will make that an all but impossible task ;)

 

I almost don't dare to dream we actually win the Dahlin lotto but by Gordie we're due and we sure could use him.

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9 hours ago, logic said:

Carlson is leading the league in scoring for Dmen right now, I would be happy if Bouchard did that for the Canucks

This year he is, but historically he hasn't produced at that level in the NHL.

If the Canucks draft Bouchard and he becomes an NHL leading scorer for D man 9 years from now while averaging 0.54 pts/gp every season is that the right pick?

What if Boqvist does become an Erik Karlsson type and scores around 0.82 pts/gp at age 22?
 

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Another smaller defenseman who has really impressed me is Ty Smith. Who i believe is getting overshadowed by Hughes and Boqvist. He is scoring at a high rate that Provorov in his draft year and is a plus 44, the next highest is like plus 25 on his team. He is less than an inch shorter than Boqvist and is heavier too. If he falls due to his size I can see him being a steal.   

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10 hours ago, logic said:

Carlson is leading the league in scoring for Dmen right now, I would be happy if Bouchard did that for the Canucks

 

27 minutes ago, Derp... said:

This year he is, but historically he hasn't produced at that level in the NHL.

If the Canucks draft Bouchard and he becomes an NHL leading scorer for D man 9 years from now while averaging 0.54 pts/gp every season is that the right pick?

What if Boqvist does become an Erik Karlsson type and scores around 0.82 pts/gp at age 22?
 

And on a VERY offensively gifted/deep Washington team. Put him on the present Canucks and he doesn't score anywhere near that  level.

 

3 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

Another smaller defenseman who has really impressed me is Ty Smith. Who i believe is getting overshadowed by Hughes and Boqvist. He is scoring at a high rate that Provorov in his draft year and is a plus 44, the next highest is like plus 25 on his team. He is less than an inch shorter than Boqvist and is heavier too. If he falls due to his size I can see him being a steal.   

There's a few D in that 8-25'ish range that could be absolute steals. Would LOVE to nab another 1st in that range *cough* PHI *cough* NYI *cough* Tanev + *cough*

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15 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

 

There's a difference between fringe players not being good enough for the NHL and star players deciding to go back for other reasons.

I could name just as many Canadians that didn't pan out in the top picks that ended up going to Europe.

Hamill, Beach, Teubert, Picard, Pokulok, Bourret, Brule, Lee, Barker, Wishart, Ellerby, Boychuk, Leblanc, Gormley, Hishon

 

 

I would say that you are cherry picking, I went through every draft since 2000 and commented on every Russian player taken in the top 10. 

 

To be fair then you should do the same and comment on every NA player taken in the top 10. I think you will find the numbers reversed with about an 80% success rate compared to less than 30% success rate for Russian players.

 

And by success I mean playing in the NHL for the team that drafted and heavily invested in them.

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16 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

Add Nikolai Zherdev and Aleksander Semin to the list,

I agree but I would be reluctant to include Semin based on the intimidation factor he had during his short career through probably one of the most memorable fights?!!? ever.

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1 hour ago, aGENT said:

I have a feeling both players will make that an all but impossible task ;)

 

I almost don't dare to dream we actually win the Dahlin lotto but by Gordie we're due and we sure could use him.

To be honest.  We probably won't win.

 

But if there's a team i would be ok losing it to.  It would be the Islanders via the Calgary pick.

 

I would laugh and laugh so hard

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59 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said:

I would say that you are cherry picking, I went through every draft since 2000 and commented on every Russian player taken in the top 10. 

 

To be fair then you should do the same and comment on every NA player taken in the top 10. I think you will find the numbers reversed with about an 80% success rate compared to less than 30% success rate for Russian players.

 

And by success I mean playing in the NHL for the team that drafted and heavily invested in them.

The point remains the same. It’s about quality. The player good enough to play like ovi and Malkin stay. The fringe players who were AHLer leave. The country you were born is doesn’t really play too much of a role. All players want to make the nhl. If the aren’t good enough the go else where. Rodin, Vey, Larsen, shore, zalewki, skille. It’s not subject to only Russians. 

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Bouchard seems like the more historical Vancouver 'safe pick' from what I am reading and the small amounts that I've seen.  I personally hope Vancouver swings for the fences and nabs Boqvist or one of the 2 euro forwards.

I wouldn't complain if we took Bouchard or Tkachuk but my personal preference is that Vancouver shoots for the high reward guy.  I believe Benning has the ability to snipe the high risk/high reward guy that will turn out.

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1 hour ago, aGENT said:

There's a few D in that 8-25'ish range that could be absolute steals. Would LOVE to nab another 1st in that range *cough* PHI *cough* NYI *cough* Tanev + *cough*

Yeah, getting a mid-to-late first would be amazing. Plenty of really intriguing defensemen available. Lots of forwards I’d also love in that range.

 

I’d probably be just as happy if we went D with our first and then nabbed a forward (maybe Serron Noel—I’ve really liked what I’ve seen of him while watching Brassard and Oshawa this year) a bit later in the first round, as I would be grabbing one of the big three forwards with our first and then snagging one of those very promising Ds who should be on the board in that 8-25ish range you mentioned.

 

Either option would be pretty great.

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4 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Oh man if he went to Calgary that would be awesome to watch.  Matt Tkachuk and Brady Tkachuk would be a serious force to....oh wait, wait sorry

 

Burke pulled a Burke and saw Calgary do a Burke by pulling the trigger two years too early based on 1 half decent year and now Tkachuk might go to the Islanders this year with what is currently the 12th overall pick

If the islanders select Brady Tkachuk with Calgary's first round pick, I would be almost as elated as us selecting first overall.

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1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

The point remains the same. It’s about quality. The player good enough to play like ovi and Malkin stay. The fringe players who were AHLer leave. The country you were born is doesn’t really play too much of a role. All players want to make the nhl. If the aren’t good enough the go else where. Rodin, Vey, Larsen, shore, zalewki, skille. It’s not subject to only Russians. 

You missed the point, once again cherry picking. Of you examples, only Skille is a top ten pick and he player nearly 400 NHL games

 

If picking at the top of the draft, you want as close to a sure thing as possible, Chistov's and Filatov's and Nichiskin's seemed like it but they and many of their countrymen have shown to not have the heart and desire to make in in North America. 

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27 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said:

You missed the point, once again cherry picking. Of you examples, only Skille is a top ten pick and he player nearly 400 NHL games

 

If picking at the top of the draft, you want as close to a sure thing as possible, Chistov's and Filatov's and Nichiskin's seemed like it but they and many of their countrymen have shown to not have the heart and desire to make in in North America. 

Chistov was picked 16 years, aleexev was picked 17 year ago. Scouting has changed quite a bit in that time frame. In 2000, 11 of the top 20 players didn’t ever play 200 nhl games Id say that’s a poor draft year. Seems like you got the cherry picking down pat. 

 

Im sure that the flyer 2015 are ok with drafting a Russian in the top 10.

 

You want facts. 

nhl goals leader = Russian 

Nhl points leader = Russian 

2nd place nhl points leader = Russian. 

Tied for first in nhl wins = Russian 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Chistov was picked 16 years, aleexev was picked 17 year ago. Scouting has changed quite a bit in that time frame. In 2000, 11 of the top 20 players didn’t ever play 200 nhl games Id say that’s a poor draft year. Seems like you got the cherry picking down pat. 

 

Im sure that the flyer 2015 are ok with drafting a Russian in the top 10.

 

You want facts. 

nhl goals leader = Russian 

Nhl points leader = Russian 

2nd place nhl points leader = Russian. 

Tied for first in nhl wins = Russian 

 

 

European players in general are just too unpredictable man.  I hope we take a guy like Virtanen.  You can't teach that kind of size speed and shot.  He's a can't miss prospect.  Guys like Nylander and Ehlers are likely to get pushed around and not even make the NHL.

...wait a minute....

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Oliver Okuliar is a guy I hope we take a look at in the later rounds, could become a good bottom six guy. 

Stat line below:                                                                                                                        GP           G                   A                  P                PIM                +/-

 

HK Dukla Trencin U20 stats_arrow.gif Slovakia U20 46 28 49 77 165 44
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7 hours ago, Rush17 said:

Who is the better skater?  Between Boqvist and Hughes? And what player has better attributes then the other ie strengths and weaknesses?  

 

Any Scott neidmeyer type skaters?

Hughes has that buttery-smooth skating that looks so effortless.  A couple of strides and he just glides yet is at a different speed than anyone else -- Orr, Coffey, and Virtanen are three examples of it.  Once they start moving nobody catches them.

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7 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

Hughes has that buttery-smooth skating that looks so effortless.  A couple of strides and he just glides yet is at a different speed than anyone else -- Orr, Coffey, and Virtanen are three examples of it.  Once they start moving nobody catches them.

Orr, Coffey and Virtanen

 

"one of these things is not like the others..." lol

 

Kind of like Howe, Gretzky and Megna. lol

 

 

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