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21 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

Too much steak not enough sizzle. We got enough guys that can project size. Or we can draft them outside the top 10 like Gadjovich and Lind. We always finish near the bottom of the league in goals for because we lack elite skilled guys that most teams have. I’d way rather have Wahlstrom over Tkachuk. As well as all the dmen we’re talking about. We’ve been trending in the right direction lately with drafting Boeser and Pettersson. Take the best player not the guy that plays the biggest. If we drafted through that mentality we’d have Glass or Vilardi over Pettersson. Pick BPA in the first round always.

Tkachuk likely would be BPA at #7 though? Or has he really fallen off people's rankings?

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56 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

It sure would. Tkachuk brings something the Canucks lack, a Top 6 forward with size, grit and some skill. Horvat has it. Virtanen is the other forward with size and grit (and speed). Can't have enough of these types of players, especially when wanting to go on a long playoff run. I just imagine those games against CGY every year, how it would intensify with the Tkachuk brothers facing off against each other. Great for the rivalry. And shouldn't the Canucks get a player that is a pain in the a** to play against? They need more guys like that, especially in the Pacific.

 

I guess we'll find out when they do the interviews if JB skips over the Tkachuk family again.

 

At #7 for the Canucks, I think I like Bouchard:

 

6-2, 193lbs, RHD, 87pts in 67g in the OHL, good shot, scoring, height, and weight and, as reported above, he is "steady, big, and smart".

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4 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said:

Tkachuk likely would be BPA at #7 though? Or has he really fallen off people's rankings?

I really doubt Tkachuk is there for us at #7.  If he is, I would thing the Oilers and Flames phone JB for that pick.  JB could trade with the Oilers getting a guy like Poolparty and their #10 pick. We could still get Bouchard or Dobson at #10.  We could come out of the draft (if Tkachuk falls to #7) with Poolparty and Bouchard.  That's what I'm talking about. :towel:

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4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I really doubt Tkachuk is there for us at #7.  If he is, I would thing the Oilers and Flames phone JB for that pick.  JB could trade with the Oilers getting a guy like Poolparty and their #10 pick. We could still get Bouchard or Dobson at #10.  We could come out of the draft (if Tkachuk falls to #7) with Poolparty and Bouchard.  That's what I'm talking about. :towel:

Problem there is that Poolparty + #10 can probably buy Edmonton a #5 or #6 pick from Montreal or Detroit. And I'm sure they'd rather trade out of division (and conference in this case).

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3 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said:

Problem there is that Poolparty + #10 can probably buy Edmonton a #5 or #6 pick from Montreal or Detroit. And I'm sure they'd rather trade out of division (and conference in this case).

Good point.  The Oilers could trade picks with 4 or 5, and guarantee themselves of Tkachuk.  

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Skill - Boeser, Pettersson, Dahlen, Goldobin, Jasek

 

Size/Grit - Horvat, Virtanen, Gaudette, Gadjovich, Lind

 

I guess there is a nice balance already forming, but Horvat and Lind are likely the only two players in that group who will be in the Top 6. It could look something like:

 

Goldobin - Horvat - Boeser

Dahlen - Pettersson - Lind

 

Still seems somewhat soft to me. Canucks do need D though as well, hope Benning navigates this Draft well.

 

What if he drafted say Boqvist or Bouchard with the #7, then with the #37 maybe he can pick up another forward with size/speed?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

I really doubt Tkachuk is there for us at #7.  If he is, I would thing the Oilers and Flames phone JB for that pick.  JB could trade with the Oilers getting a guy like Poolparty and their #10 pick. We could still get Bouchard or Dobson at #10.  We could come out of the draft (if Tkachuk falls to #7) with Poolparty and Bouchard.  That's what I'm talking about. :towel:

Poolparty plus the tenth is definitely worth more than the 7th. Poolparty is being undervalued on these boards, in all fairness chiapet is incompetent as a gm.

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2 hours ago, 'NucK™ said:

Problem there is that Poolparty + #10 can probably buy Edmonton a #5 or #6 pick from Montreal or Detroit. And I'm sure they'd rather trade out of division (and conference in this case).

Puljujarvi was the consensus #3 overall just two years ago. Battled with Laine for a good part of the year for 2knd overall.

 

I would think them extremely foolish to be giving up on him at this point!

 

For a 5th or 7th place in the draft?

 

Plus adding in the 10th??

 

Foolish IMO.

 

:frantic:

 

 

From THN;

 

Owns outstanding size and terrific, game-breaking talent. Skates very well and owns a great release. Knows where to go in order to score goals. Can also be a physical presence. Is a great playmaker.

 

That is exactly what the Oilers are missing up front. Be it with McDavid, although I believe Yamamoto will go there for speed, more likely with Draisaitl.

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8 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

Puljujarvi was the consensus #3 overall just two years ago. Battled with Laine for a good part of the year for 2knd overall.

 

I would think them extremely foolish to be giving up on him at this point!

 

For a 5th or 7th place in the draft?

 

Plus adding in the 10th??

 

Foolish IMO.

 

:frantic:

 

 

From THN;

 

Owns outstanding size and terrific, game-breaking talent. Skates very well and owns a great release. Knows where to go in order to score goals. Can also be a physical presence. Is a great playmaker.

 

That is exactly what the Oilers are missing up front. Be it with McDavid, although I believe Yamamoto will go there for speed, more likely with Draisaitl.

Especially cause they are

Gonna get a good player at 10..

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2 minutes ago, R3aL said:

Especially cause they are

Gonna get a good player at 10..

RNH also made the move to top line LW.  Currently looking at;

 

RNH McDavid Yamamoto

Looch Draisaitl Puljujarvi

 

Imagine a road team putting out a D pair to match McDavid & Yamamoto's speed?  And having to match those three brute monsters instead... All who can score!

 

Edmonton needs to sort its special teams & maybe some room issues? Their coach always ran good special teams in the past & they imploded. It also seemed he lost Larsson & Klefbom, Lucic. Maybe these guys all took it easy, or started getting coached on after hours habits by Grant Fuhr? Who I think is a some sort of support person there these days. McLellan is a good coach. Nicholson a pro administrator. I don't think they will put up with issues. I imagine those should sort themselves out.

 

Not that he is a game breaker, but their best PMD Sekara was hurt most of last year, should be back. Then just let a few of those young forwards, besides Draisaitl, come into their own. Nurse passed Klefbom & Larsson. Grab say Dobson at 10? Or Ty Smith??   

 

Trading their GM, vs letting him solve the issues might also be smart.

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28 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

RNH also made the move to top line LW.  Currently looking at;

 

RNH McDavid Yamamoto

Looch Draisaitl Puljujarvi

 

Imagine a road team putting out a D pair to match McDavid & Yamamoto's speed?  And having to match those three brute monsters instead... All who can score!

 

Edmonton needs to sort its special teams & maybe some room issues? Their coach always ran good special teams in the past & they imploded. It also seemed he lost Larsson & Klefbom, Lucic. Maybe these guys all took it easy, or started getting coached on after hours habits by Grant Fuhr? Who I think is a some sort of support person there these days. McLellan is a good coach. Nicholson a pro administrator. I don't think they will put up with issues. I imagine those should sort themselves out.

 

Not that he is a game breaker, but their best PMD Sekara was hurt most of last year, should be back. Then just let a few of those young forwards, besides Draisaitl, come into their own. Nurse passed Klefbom & Larsson. Grab say Dobson at 10? Or Ty Smith??   

 

Trading their GM, vs letting him solve the issues might also be smart.

Good points. Thank God they didn't win the lottery though!

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46 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

RNH also made the move to top line LW.  Currently looking at;

 

RNH McDavid Yamamoto

Looch Draisaitl Puljujarvi

 

Imagine a road team putting out a D pair to match McDavid & Yamamoto's speed?  And having to match those three brute monsters instead... All who can score!

 

Edmonton needs to sort its special teams & maybe some room issues? Their coach always ran good special teams in the past & they imploded. It also seemed he lost Larsson & Klefbom, Lucic. Maybe these guys all took it easy, or started getting coached on after hours habits by Grant Fuhr? Who I think is a some sort of support person there these days. McLellan is a good coach. Nicholson a pro administrator. I don't think they will put up with issues. I imagine those should sort themselves out.

 

Not that he is a game breaker, but their best PMD Sekara was hurt most of last year, should be back. Then just let a few of those young forwards, besides Draisaitl, come into their own. Nurse passed Klefbom & Larsson. Grab say Dobson at 10? Or Ty Smith??   

 

Trading their GM, vs letting him solve the issues might also be smart.

Not to mention their local boy Benson coming up...

 

trading their gm haha, we should be happy he's their GM :)

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11 minutes ago, rekker said:

Good points. Thank God they didn't win the lottery though!

We're at odds with draft needs. I mean we might have Wahlstrom, possibly even Tkachuk as a distraction, cough the legit BPA, when we draft. We clearly need to draft some home runs for our D cupboard which is not barren. But pretty bare! And there will be one to 3 excellent D to chose from at our spot.

 

Edmonton has no one as promising as Juolevi in their pool. But several on par with Brisbois, maybe better (?) & probably better than anyone else we have. I am speaking of Ethan Bear, who is also closer to NHL & possibly owns a lot of the puck handling skills they need, brings some speed to their line up. An anmoly for them, a late round steal.. Swede Filip Berglund had a great year, is big like Brisebois, probably owns a better shot? Then they have Seth Jones baby brother and Samurokov. Save a game breaker, its actually a D shaping up over the next year or so. Yes thank God they did not win the lottery again!

 

But I think they can take the BPA if Kotkaniemi is on the board? But will be torn as one of Dobson or Smith should be as well. Their D is not as exciting as having Pool Party & Yamamoto in the cupboard. 

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11 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

We're at odds with draft needs. I mean we might have Wahlstrom, possibly even Tkachuk as a distraction, cough the legit BPA, when we draft. We clearly need to draft some home runs for our D cupboard which is not barren. But pretty bare! And there will be one to 3 excellent D to chose from at our spot.

 

Edmonton has no one as promising as Juolevi in their pool. But several on par with Brisbois, maybe better (?) & probably better than anyone else we have. I am speaking of Ethan Bear, who is also closer to NHL & possibly owns a lot of the puck handling skills they need, brings some speed to their line up. An anmoly for them, a late round steal.. Swede Filip Berglund had a great year, is big like Brisebois, probably owns a better shot? Then they have Seth Jones baby brother and Samurokov. Save a game breaker, its actually a D shaping up over the next year or so. Yes thank God they did not win the lottery again!

 

But I think they can take the BPA if Kotkaniemi is on the board? But will be torn as one of Dobson or Smith should be as well. Their D is not as exciting as having Pool Party & Yamamoto in the cupboard. 

I would think Dobson or Smith would be hard for them to pass up. I don't think we pass on D either. All things being equal. But I trust JB. He knows we need more quality D in the system. I could see where he is overwhelmed by a forward at our pick though. There is a chance a real quality forward drops to us. 

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6 minutes ago, rekker said:

I would think Dobson or Smith would be hard for them to pass up. I don't think we pass on D either. All things being equal. But I trust JB. He knows we need more quality D in the system. I could see where he is overwhelmed by a forward at our pick though. There is a chance a real quality forward drops to us. 

I desperately want a D!  I'm high on Hughes, Boqvist, Dobson.  OK on Bouchard. I've campaigned not to miss a BPA on D for years. Now we neeeeed D!

 

But I really like Wahlstrom.  Looks like Boeser in terms of goals, shot, getting in position, instinct. But owns more speed, a touch more size and puck skill at draft age.

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1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said:

Puljujarvi was the consensus #3 overall just two years ago. Battled with Laine for a good part of the year for 2knd overall.

 

I would think them extremely foolish to be giving up on him at this point!

 

For a 5th or 7th place in the draft?

 

Plus adding in the 10th??

 

Foolish IMO.

 

:frantic:

 

 

From THN;

 

Owns outstanding size and terrific, game-breaking talent. Skates very well and owns a great release. Knows where to go in order to score goals. Can also be a physical presence. Is a great playmaker.

 

That is exactly what the Oilers are missing up front. Be it with McDavid, although I believe Yamamoto will go there for speed, more likely with Draisaitl.

Can't argue with that!

 

I was only replying to a poster who suggested EDM trade that for the 7th, saying that they could easily get a 5th or 6th instead to have a better shot at BT, while also trading out of conference. 

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15 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

I desperately want a D!  I'm high on Hughes, Boqvist, Dobson.  OK on Bouchard. I've campaigned not to miss a BPA on D for years. Now we neeeeed D!

 

But I really like Wahlstrom.  Looks like Boeser in terms of goals, shot, getting in position, instinct. But owns more speed, a touch more size and puck skill at draft age.

Wahlstrom is the fly in the ointment for sure. 

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37 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

Benning knows he needs more draft picks, if he is unable to move a roster player for any 19/20 real old prospects or a draft pick I could see him moving down in the draft to acquire one.  But I'm sure we will see at least one player moved for a pick...right? 

Odds are that will happen. Whether thats Nilsson to make room for Demko, A LD (Hutton or DelZotto) to make room for one of Juolevi, Sautner or McEneny, a winger or two to make room for everyone (Baer, Leipsic, Eriksson, Boeser, Gagner, Virtanen, Gaunce, Granlund, Motte, Goldobin, UFAs, Dahlen, Pettersson, Archy?) or the movement of a bigger name such as Tanev, Guddy, Edler or Sutter.

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1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said:

They’d be dumb to do it. Don’t be fooled just because he didn’t take off right away but Poolparty> Brady Tkachuk.

Maybe the Oilers need Brady Tkatchuk more than Poolparty though?  

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