bernzie71 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 i could see vancouver drafting Bouchard or Dobson as well as Wahlstrom those 3 at 7 don’t be suprised if they go for a player that one one had. like last year it was Glass or Middlestad. no one had Pettersson on there radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: RNH also made the move to top line LW. Currently looking at; RNH McDavid Yamamoto Looch Draisaitl Puljujarvi Imagine a road team putting out a D pair to match McDavid & Yamamoto's speed? And having to match those three brute monsters instead... All who can score! RNH is meh, Yamamoto's proven nothing, Looch is a has-been, and PoolyParty has yet to establish himself. Teams will run over that tiny first line and out-skate the second. Canucks are assembling a better top-6, and will have it in short order. And in fact, a far better top-9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe the Oilers need Brady Tkatchuk more than Poolparty though? The Oilers need a forward who can keep up with McDavid and play keep away with the puck. Not dig the puck out, like the Sedin's needed. RNH who has failed to live up to expectations as a C (commensurate with his draft pick)? Looked pretty good as his first line LW late last year. Puljujarvi IMO will look very good as RW on either a line with Draisaitl? Or McDavid! Yamamoto is another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, bernzie71 said: i could see vancouver drafting Bouchard or Dobson as well as Wahlstrom those 3 at 7 don’t be suprised if they go for a player that one one had. like last year it was Glass or Middlestad. no one had Pettersson on there radar There was some noise on Pettersson near the end (closer to the draft) actually. I remember because I was mad about it at the time haha. I went and read as much about him as I could so that I would be a little more excited about him just in case (God forbid!) we actually draft the guy over someone like Glass! Funny thinking back on it now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernzie71 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 right that’s why they get paid the big $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: RNH who has failed to live up to expectations as a C (commensurate with his draft pick)? Looked pretty good as his first line LW late last year. Yakupov looked good with McDavid, too. RNH has never hit 60 points and at 25 has likely topped out as a 45-55pt sickened liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: I desperately want a D! I'm high on Hughes, Boqvist, Dobson. OK on Bouchard. I've campaigned not to miss a BPA on D for years. Now we neeeeed D! But I really like Wahlstrom. Looks like Boeser in terms of goals, shot, getting in position, instinct. But owns more speed, a touch more size and puck skill at draft age. Would add more flow to the lineup that includes Boeser Gaudette and potentially Wahlstrom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: RNH is meh, Yamamoto's proven nothing, Looch is a has-been, and PoolyParty has yet to establish himself. Teams will run over that tiny first line and out-skate the second. Canucks are assembling a better top-6, and will have it in short order. And in fact, a far better top-9. RNH is certainly not at the standard of many #1 overall picks. RNH is only behind Landeskog & Kucherov in scoring. Behind Landeskog & Couturiiere in games played from that draft. As good as you could expect from a crappy year. More important, where not a play driver he was hoped to be? Or hard nosed enough to be a shut down centre! As some coaches deployed him?? How did that happen BTW? He does have the speed and puck skill to be a great complimentary player. If Burrows can approach 60 points with Danny & Hank, he's a no brainer. He looked as good as anyone playing with McDavid. I would be surprised if he did not lock down that 1LW and score 60 or 70 points now that pivot expectations have been given up on. Yeah & so what JP & KY have not lubed it yet big time in the NHL? It takes time to get there. Its a lot of talent & promise. Pool party is a full year younger than Boeser, 2 compared to Jake & has near 100 games in the NHL. He's on track. Even if many are impatient. Maybe we, in Vancouver will have a better top 6? But maybe not. Boeser is also off to a great start, but no answer for McDavid. And there is zero guarantee's, as promising as he is, that Pettersson will be in that league either. Teams will run over Leipsic in our top 6 on the same logic you preach. But Pettersson might as well? I don't agree with it for either team. Keep calm & carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: The Oilers need a forward who can keep up with McDavid and play keep away with the puck. Not dig the puck out, like the Sedin's needed. RNH who has failed to live up to expectations as a C (commensurate with his draft pick)? Looked pretty good as his first line LW late last year. Puljujarvi IMO will look very good as RW on either a line with Draisaitl? Or McDavid! Yamamoto is another option. I honestly think they should sign grabner for mcdavids wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Trading 10th overall and Puljujarvi just to get Tkachuk sounds so stupid. If it was Puljujarvi and a 2nd rounder would you do it? Or would you demand their 10th overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: RNH is certainly not at the standard of many #1 overall picks. RNH is only behind Landeskog & Kucherov in scoring. Behind Landeskog & Couturiiere in games played from that draft. As good as you could expect from a crappy year. Sure, but that's a ways from being a legit first-liner, and Yamamoto does not project as one either. It's fine to have a Burrows or Morrison on your top line but not two. Even Gretzky needed a Kurri. Quote Yeah & so what JP & KY have not lubed it yet big time in the NHL? It takes time to get there. Its a lot of talent & promise. Essential point being -- I would take the Canucks' roster and prospect pool over the Oilers', easily. That projected top-6 of theirs is nothing special and won't scare anyone, especially since they have poor depth after that and it's become even worse with recent departures. Worse, their prospect pool is barren and they don't have a lot of assets with value to trade, so their future is pretty shady, imo. Giving Chia maybe one more year before Katz either does the same dance hoping to recreate the 80s or finally realize they need to pretty much strip it down again and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 6 hours ago, NaveJoseph said: Trading 10th overall and Puljujarvi just to get Tkachuk sounds so stupid. If it was Puljujarvi and a 2nd rounder would you do it? Or would you demand their 10th overall? So in the second scenario Edmonton has the 7th and 10th pick just by giving up Poolparty and a 2nd? I don't like that. I don't like Edmonton either. Stop talking about them please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 15 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: We're at odds with draft needs. I mean we might have Wahlstrom, possibly even Tkachuk as a distraction, cough the legit BPA, when we draft. We clearly need to draft some home runs for our D cupboard which is not barren. But pretty bare! And there will be one to 3 excellent D to chose from at our spot. Edmonton has no one as promising as Juolevi in their pool. But several on par with Brisbois, maybe better (?) & probably better than anyone else we have. I am speaking of Ethan Bear, who is also closer to NHL & possibly owns a lot of the puck handling skills they need, brings some speed to their line up. An anmoly for them, a late round steal.. Swede Filip Berglund had a great year, is big like Brisebois, probably owns a better shot? Then they have Seth Jones baby brother and Samurokov. Save a game breaker, its actually a D shaping up over the next year or so. Yes thank God they did not win the lottery again! They might not have a prospect like Juolevi but the one difference is they have Larsson whos only 25. Klefbom who’s only 24. And nurse who’s only 23 already in there system making an impact. Compare that to Hutton, puoliot, and gudbranson. And there D look a lot more promising. Also on the topic of RNH. If canucks were to draft tkachuk and some how trade for RNH. We’d be able to ice a line almost identical to WCE. Possibly an even more skilled version. Bert Mo Nazzy Tkahcuk RNH Boeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: They might not have a prospect like Juolevi but the one difference is they have Larsson whos only 25. Klefbom who’s only 24. And nurse who’s only 23 already in there system making an impact. Compare that to Hutton, puoliot, and gudbranson. And there D look a lot more promising. Also on the topic of RNH. If canucks were to draft tkachuk and some how trade for RNH. We’d be able to ice a line almost identical to WCE. Possibly an even more skilled version. Bert Mo Nazzy Tkahcuk RNH Boeser Not the best argument because larsson,klefbom and nurse most likely make over 10 million a year ( im just guessing) with nurse due for a significant raise soon sounds like they wont even be able to afford the three for long and if your conparing that to canucks i would use Stetcher in place of Hutton so Stetcher Pouliot and Gudbransen make roughly 5.5 a year which ia extremely cheap for 3 defenseman in your top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Not the best argument because larsson,klefbom and nurse most likely make over 10 million a year ( im just guessing) with nurse due for a significant raise soon sounds like they wont even be able to afford the three for long and if your conparing that to canucks i would use Stetcher in place of Hutton so Stetcher Pouliot and Gudbransen make roughly 5.5 a year which ia extremely cheap for 3 defenseman in your top 6 Sure use stretcher instead. Either way nurse klefbom and Larsson are significantly better then what we have on the roster or in the system. Who cares what they make. It kinda goes towards the point, you pay for talent. Canucks just don’t have the D talent. Which is percisouly why people say taking a D this year fits the needs the best. They won’t have troubles signing all three either. The only reason klefbom name has came up is to potential bring back a player like Tyson Barrie now coincidentally more expensive than klefbom. Either way I don’t see them moving them. They will dump sekera and russel long before they trade one of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Sure use stretcher instead. Either way nurse klefbom and Larsson are significantly better then what we have on the roster or in the system. Who cares what they make. It kinda goes towards the point, you pay for talent. Canucks just don’t have the D talent. Which is percisouly why people say taking a D this year fits the needs the best. They won’t have troubles signing all three either. The only reason klefbom name has came up is to potential bring back a player like Tyson Barrie now coincidentally more expensive than klefbom. Either way I don’t see them moving them. They will dump sekera and russel long before they trade one of those three. Oilers overall talent is better (and young) as you suggest but for some reason, they don't mesh well together. Larsson and Nurse seem to repel each other like magnets when they end up together. Klefbom has all the talent in the world but seems to think he is playing 3 on 3 all the time as he cannot see an entire side of the rink most shifts as he never passes there, never moves over there to cover etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Oilers overall talent is better (and young) as you suggest but for some reason, they don't mesh well together. Larsson and Nurse seem to repel each other like magnets when they end up together. Klefbom has all the talent in the world but seems to think he is playing 3 on 3 all the time as he cannot see an entire side of the rink most shifts as he never passes there, never moves over there to cover etc. Klefbom struggled to year but it was also reported he was playing with a injury for the majority of the time. I think he’s like an edler where he’s solid but you can’t rely on too heavily or he crumbles. The oilers really need a PMD. Someone like say.... Justin Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Klefbom struggled to year but it was also reported he was playing with a injury for the majority of the time. I think he’s like an edler where he’s solid but you can’t rely on too heavily or he crumbles. The oilers really need a PMD. Someone like say.... Justin Schultz The Oilers need forwards who play in straight lines, don't flee the dzone, and think more than just offense. We need the guy at number 7 who has potentially the highest ceiling. I'm thinking Hughs or Boquist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Oilers overall talent is better (and young) as you suggest but for some reason, they don't mesh well together. Larsson and Nurse seem to repel each other like magnets when they end up together. Klefbom has all the talent in the world but seems to think he is playing 3 on 3 all the time as he cannot see an entire side of the rink most shifts as he never passes there, never moves over there to cover etc. I give Chiarelli credit for at least trying to fix the chemistry, but clearly it didn't work. Maybe having your top player, who gets all the accolades not taking any defensive responsibilities hurts the team? Heard on the World Championship's broadcast that even our Canada Coach is giving McDavid almost all ozone starts, which forces the other centers (like Bo) to do all the heavy lifting. This cannot be good at all for team chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Klefbom struggled to year but it was also reported he was playing with a injury for the majority of the time. I think he’s like an edler where he’s solid but you can’t rely on too heavily or he crumbles. The oilers really need a PMD. Someone like say.... Justin Schultz Im not too sold on Klefbom think he will be a serviceable number 4 guy, I would rather have Gudbranson in a playoff series to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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