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32 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

The thing I don’t like with Dobson while he’s not the worst in any one category he’s not the best in any one category when ranking offensive skills with the other dmen. He’s the safest bet in being a top 4. I don’t want to draft safe because I want the BPA. With Dobson I just don’t see an offensive #1 pp QB. I see a Dan Hamhuis type of player. Boqvist and Hughes are so gifted that if it translates they could be special players. Even a guy like Bouchard I think could be an NHL pp qb.

He scored over 80 points incl. playoff's and still going, his draft year. He might not be the best offensive D in the draft?

 

But that's pretty bloody good!  

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1 minute ago, Canuck Surfer said:

He scored over 80 points incl. playoff's and still going, his draft year. He might not be the best offensive D in the draft?

 

But that's pretty bloody good!  

Totally agree. I also think he will grow into his shot as he is 6'3'' so lots of room to add power to that shot.

 

Also just wanted to add that Dobson was +2 this game and on the one goal he was on the ice (I think) he had his man fully covered.

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So I suspect with DiPietro being the deep end of our prospect pool in net?  (That's a pretty good problem BTW!)

 

We will probably draft a goalie this year again.

 

There has been very little fanfare about goalies this draft.  No Luokkonen or Oettinger dominating talk.

 

@Rob_Zepp or anyone, any feedback as to who is options, and where we might have to commit? 

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3 minutes ago, TGokou said:

Totally agree. I also think he will grow into his shot as he is 6'3'' so lots of room to add power to that shot.

 

Also just wanted to add that Dobson was +2 this game and on the one goal he was on the ice (I think) he had his man fully covered.

I'm going to dance a little jig if we get Dobson! I also value the D in defence. 

 

He's so solid in the neutral zone in either direction, commands his own zone? And can get the puck out by pass or by blade is unreal in a 6'3'' D. Particularly one who can beat forwards to pucks. He was what plus 30 something on the year? On a good, but not dominant team??  

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12 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

So I suspect with DiPietro being the deep end of our prospect pool in net?  (That's a pretty good problem BTW!)

 

We will probably draft a goalie this year again.

 

There has been very little fanfare about goalies this draft.  No Luokkonen or Oettinger dominating talk.

 

@Rob_Zepp or anyone, any feedback as to who is options, and where we might have to commit? 

We dont need to draft a goalie. I'd stick to centers and more high risk high reward players as well as OFD.

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12 minutes ago, TGokou said:

Totally agree. I also think he will grow into his shot as he is 6'3'' so lots of room to add power to that shot.

 

Also just wanted to add that Dobson was +2 this game and on the one goal he was on the ice (I think) he had his man fully covered.

Maybe players like Boqvist and Bouchard with already great shots when they grow and add weight there shots get even better. I don’t dislike Dobson as I see him as a top 4. I feel like he’s a lot like Juolevi. He’s what we already have. Boqvist and Hughes I feel are the type of dmen we don’t have and desperately need. A true pp qb point producing dynamic offensively gifted dman.

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23 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

So I suspect with DiPietro being the deep end of our prospect pool in net?  (That's a pretty good problem BTW!)

 

We will probably draft a goalie this year again.

 

There has been very little fanfare about goalies this draft.  No Luokkonen or Oettinger dominating talk.

 

@Rob_Zepp or anyone, any feedback as to who is options, and where we might have to commit? 

Yeah, I hope somebody replies with some

good info because I haven’t dug into the goalie’s too much yet.

 

The names I’ve seen tossed around the most are Olivier Rodrigue and Jakub Skarek.

 

Skarek in particular interests me. His disappointing results in the international tournaments have dropped him down on many rankings but I see this as an opportunity if he falls similarly in the draft. His results in the top Czech pro leagues (he’s played mostly Extraliga and WSM Liga the past two years as a 17 and 18yo) have been outstanding (well into the 900s in Sv%) and I’ve seem a few games where he’s been dominant against some very good Extraliga teams.

 

Here’s a scouting report:

 

Jakub Skarek (Jihlava, Czech Extraliga | 6’3, 196): Nightmarish world juniors notwithstanding, Skarek remains the draft’s top goalie prospect. Blessed with size, cat-like quickness and a superior radar for puck movement, Skarek has held him own as a teenager in the Czech Republic’s premiere league. He’s a classic butterfly goalie who handles the puck well and quickly challenges shooters above the crease. One thing that has impressed me is his glove-hand positioning in either the V/H (Vertical/ Horizontal) or RVH (Reverse Vertical/Horizontal) — Skarek keeps the glove directly above his pad to cover the upper half of the short side.

 

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1 hour ago, flickyoursedin said:

Maybe players like Boqvist and Bouchard with already great shots when they grow and add weight there shots get even better. I don’t dislike Dobson as I see him as a top 4. I feel like he’s a lot like Juolevi. He’s what we already have. Boqvist and Hughes I feel are the type of dmen we don’t have and desperately need. A true pp qb point producing dynamic offensively gifted dman.

I suppose?

 

He has a better shot than Juolevi. To the eye test even more dominant defensively & is bigger. But lets say he is the same?

 

I & others, including some who know something about the game, compared Dobson to Pietrangelo. I also compared Bouchard to Shattenkirk, and you can use Carlson who more including his coach used in a similar comparison. A talented bigger D who can run a PP & put up points. But are average, not dominating defensive players. I would take Pietrangelo over Carlson or Shattenkirk anyday if I had to start a team. I firmly believe Dobson is BPA over Bouchard, but just my opinion.

 

I readily admit if one of the dynamic upside PMD's are available? I would be nabbing Boqvist or Hughes. Necause I want that component as well! I don't categorize Bouchard there. Bouchard does not have that speed or agility. The extra gear they could inject into the whole team too alluring. Not to mention same, probably higher upside in the NHL over Bouchard. Again my opinion. 

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1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said:

So I suspect with DiPietro being the deep end of our prospect pool in net?  (That's a pretty good problem BTW!)

 

We will probably draft a goalie this year again.

 

There has been very little fanfare about goalies this draft.  No Luokkonen or Oettinger dominating talk.

 

@Rob_Zepp or anyone, any feedback as to who is options, and where we might have to commit? 

The combine is coming up and I am keen for it.   The goalie depth this year is decent but doesn't have that one or two "clearly better" but there is quality through about 20 prospects.   Gavel is likely leading the a few lists but I am not sold.   Skarek, Rodrigue and Ingham are all about equal in overall potential but Skarek has "it" in my opinion.  Mandolese has had nothing much in front of him so his stats are not great but I expect him to be a surprise at combine.   There are a few others like Annunen, Miftakhov and perhaps Dostal out there too for Canuck interest.   Lindbom is Swedish but reminds me of DiPietro in terms of style and a smaller goalie who is fearless but who will need some structure at NHL level if he gets there but may be most acrobatic option in this year's draft.

 

I think there will be a quality option in the fifth round this year - no need to commit earlier than that IMHO but I am neither affiliated with any team and their scouting groups so I cannot say that one or more won't vanish in the late 2nd or so.   Canucks would be, in my mind, better served using their first four picks on position players.   

 

A few other thoughts but am awaiting combine before saying much more.   :) 

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1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said:

I'm going to dance a little jig if we get Dobson! I also value the D in defence. 

 

He's so solid in the neutral zone in either direction, commands his own zone? And can get the puck out by pass or by blade is unreal in a 6'3'' D. Particularly one who can beat forwards to pucks. He was what plus 30 something on the year? On a good, but not dominant team??  

 

Ty Smith was one of the very best defenders (especially in the neutral zone) in the CHL according to previously posted metrics. I don't remember where Dobson was, but he wasn't as high. 

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17 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

Ty Smith was one of the very best defenders (especially in the neutral zone) in the CHL according to previously posted metrics. I don't remember where Dobson was, but he wasn't as high. 

Dobson might just be a 6'3'' right handed version of Smith...  :ph34r: 

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

I really hope one of Hughes or Boqvist falls to us.  I agree they both have the highest ceilings.  

Im just gonna be happy with whoever we draft. There is such an awesome arguement with everyone. Took me 2 days to fill out the poll question over in the consensus #7 pick thread.

 

Right now watching Dobson set up the play to on that OT game winning goal in the biggest CHL stage proves to me he is a factor in big games. Lets see if he can build upon that.

 

Drafting Dobson or Bouchard at #7 and Tychonick at #38 could become a great 1-2 D pair in the mold of a Keith/Seabrook pairing.

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12 minutes ago, missioncanucksfan said:

Im just gonna be happy with whoever we draft. There is such an awesome arguement with everyone. Took me 2 days to fill out the poll question over in the consensus #7 pick thread.

 

Right now watching Dobson set up the play to on that OT game winning goal in the biggest CHL stage proves to me he is a factor in big games. Lets see if he can build upon that.

 

Drafting Dobson or Bouchard at #7 and Tychonick at #38 could become a great 1-2 D pair in the mold of a Keith/Seabrook pairing.

If Dobson continues to dominate the Memorial Cup, and leads his team to the Championship, he might move into top five.  

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9 minutes ago, Alflives said:

If Dobson continues to dominate the Memorial Cup, and leads his team to the Championship, he might move into top five.  

Im thinking the same....

 

As for Bouchard, imagine his offensive output if he had quality players to pass to or setting him up?

 

Whats one major aspect missing on our blueline since Salo? ...The Hammer

 

Right there is a HUGE reason why I would be just as happy with Bouchard. 

 

Heck last draft I was holding onto the Glass train with both hands but Im proud to eat crow and be happy with who we got instead.

 

Isnt this time of year fun?

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4 minutes ago, missioncanucksfan said:

Im thinking the same....

 

As for Bouchard, imagine his offensive output if he had quality players to pass to or setting him up?

 

Whats one major aspect missing on our blueline since Salo? ...The Hammer

 

Right there is a HUGE reason why I would be just as happy with Bouchard. 

 

Heck last draft I was holding onto the Glass train with both hands but Im proud to eat crow and be happy with who we got instead.

 

Isnt this time of year fun?

For fans of the bottom feeder teams, this is our reward. :towel:

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4 hours ago, flickyoursedin said:

The thing I don’t like with Dobson while he’s not the worst in any one category he’s not the best in any one category when ranking offensive skills with the other dmen. He’s the safest bet in being a top 4. I don’t want to draft safe because I want the BPA. With Dobson I just don’t see an offensive #1 pp QB. I see a Dan Hamhuis type of player. Boqvist and Hughes are so gifted that if it translates they could be special players. Even a guy like Bouchard I think could be an NHL pp qb.

I think our def could use some more guaranteed top 4s though.  cause the current state is not good enough in off or def.  they all sort of just exist.

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5 hours ago, Alflives said:

I think one of Hughes or Boqvist drops to 7.  We might get one. 

If we have a chance at Hughes at 7th, we should all be very happy because  we’ll finally gain confident dynamic play from the D  we have been missing for many years.

 

I really do think b/w Hughes and Boqvist, Hughes has the highest ceiling and floor. Win win. Hughes confidence with the puck is something you can’t teach a player. 

 

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