Isam Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Just now, Canuck Surfer said: Will he still go to Denver with their coach moving on? Haven't heard anything different yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Dahlin26 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Dobson's performance at the memorial cup hopefully means he gets picked before us and drops Wahlstrom/Hughes to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, R.Dahlin26 said: Dobson's performance at the memorial cup hopefully means he gets picked before us and drops Wahlstrom/Hughes to us. What do we do if all these rumours and recent trends hold true? Montreal goes off board and takes a centre (Kotkaniemi/Veleno), Detroit takes Bouchard, and Dobson goes top-6. We’re left with our choice of Hughes, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom, or Boqvist. And then CDC loses its mind as JB announces Lundeström at 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: What do we do if all these rumours and recent trends hold true? Montreal goes off board and takes a centre (Kotkaniemi/Veleno), Detroit takes Bouchard, and Dobson goes top-6. We’re left with our choice of Hughes, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom, or Boqvist. And then CDC loses its mind as JB announces Lundeström at 7. Benning then discusses the reasoning: "Well we had our eyes on Isac for quite some time now who we felt played well for Lulea. Isac has all the right tools to be a real good player. He's very skilled, he has real good vision of the ice, nice hands." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobidus Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 4 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: What do we do if all these rumours and recent trends hold true? Montreal goes off board and takes a centre (Kotkaniemi/Veleno), Detroit takes Bouchard, and Dobson goes top-6. We’re left with our choice of Hughes, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom, or Boqvist. And then CDC loses its mind as JB announces Lundeström at 7. And then Lundeström ends up being the next Patrice Bergeron? It'd be surreal if Jim bulls off another Elias-like pick. Someone who breaks records. Now that you say it though, that tier of picks 4-10 is going to be wild. Anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 14 hours ago, Isam said: Liam foudy. London knights c. Came on late in the season. A little raw but seems to have some crazy athleticism. Dad was a cfl player and mother a sprinter. Yeah, I can see the canucks spending a second or third on the kid. He fits the mold of a jb pick.^ I can see him being taken in the 2nd round, more of a late 2nd round pick though.... who knows maybe the draft combine pushes him further up with his athletic bloodlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 6 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Benning then discusses the reasoning: "Well we had our eyes on Isac for quite some time now who we felt played well for Lulea. Isac has all the right tools to be a real good player. He's very skilled, he has real good vision of the ice, nice hands." As I was reading this, I read it as if Benning himself was speaking to me and I couldn't stop laughing hahahaha......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 7 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: What do we do if all these rumours and recent trends hold true? Montreal goes off board and takes a centre (Kotkaniemi/Veleno), Detroit takes Bouchard, and Dobson goes top-6. We’re left with our choice of Hughes, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom, or Boqvist. And then CDC loses its mind as JB announces Lundeström at 7. and while Lundestrom develops for the next 3 years or so, CDC will have over 500 pages of heated discussion about why he was taken while all 4 mentioned players are already playing in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 8 hours ago, R.Dahlin26 said: Dobson's performance at the memorial cup hopefully means he gets picked before us and drops Wahlstrom/Hughes to us. Most GMs do not have the myopia, fickleness, and presentist bias of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Stick plan. Draft well, develop, sign short term UFAs in the interim. A blockbuster trade to improve the Canucks would sure be nice, but I doubt Benning does anything drastic. As for the future, I see these players forming the new core: ________ - Horvat - Boeser Dahlen - Pettersson - Lind Gadjovich - Gaudette - Palmu ________ - ________ - Virtanen Juolevi - ________ Brisebois - Stecher ________ - Gudbranson Chatfield At #7, the Canucks may have these players to choose from: F - Wahlstrom (C/RW), Tkachuk (LW/C), Kotkaniemi (C) D - Bouchard (RD), Boqvist (RD), Hughes (LD), Dobson (RD) My choices are Tkachuk and Boqvist. Two types of players the Canucks don't have, but could use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Most GMs do not have the myopia, fickleness, and presentist bias of fans. Yeah I'd wager any GM's that have him high on their lists, already did. The kid's good. One good Mem cup is likely more just reinforcing rather than altering that view. He's arguably got the highest floor of anyone not named Dahlin of the top D (yes, possibly higher than Bouchard's) and still has a 1st pair ceiling. He's less 'dynamic' than the other guys but he has basically zero holes in his game. I'd LOVE to get another pick and nab him and one of the other guys (Boqvist, Hughes, Whalstrom, Kotkaniemi etc). For all those fretting about our future D, imagine coming out of the draft with one of the offensive D's AND Dobson... *drools* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yeah I'd wager any GM's that have him high on their lists, already did. The kid's good. One good Mem cup is likely more just reinforcing rather than altering that view. He's arguably got the highest floor of anyone not named Dahlin of the top D (yes, possibly higher than Bouchard's) and still has a 1st pair ceiling. He's less 'dynamic' than the other guys but he has basically zero holes in his game. I'd LOVE to get another pick and nab him and one of the other guys (Boqvist, Hughes, Whalstrom, Kotkaniemi etc). For all those fretting about our future D, imagine coming out of the draft with one of the offensive D's AND Dobson... *drools* I'm regarding Dobson as our "default" or bottom-line as almost certainly being there when we pick, and perhaps the closest to a sure-bet that's out there at our spot. Hughes and Wahlstrom have definite appeal and I don't know who I'd take if all three are on the board, but Dobson brings so many positive attributes, especially ones that this team REALLY needs on the back end, that there won't be any disappointment if/when we choose him. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: I'm regarding Dobson as our "default" or bottom-line as almost certainly being there when we pick, and perhaps the closest to a sure-bet that's out there at our spot. Hughes and Wahlstrom have definite appeal and I don't know who I'd take if all three are on the board, but Dobson brings so many positive attributes, especially ones that this team REALLY needs on the back end, that there won't be any disappointment if/when we choose him. At all. Same. Especially with Benning & Co making that call, I'd have a lot of faith not only in his abilities but in how well he interviewed etc as well. I'm going to be very interested to see the combine results this weekend as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Noble 6 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 This is a really good article on Merkley. It goes over how he has elite offensive offensive tools, particularly his passing and vision. It also highlights his deficiencies, particularly his lack of effort at times and his attitude. Here's a quote from the article from one of his sources regarding Merkley's attitude: "He's just a sh**head, and I'm his biggest fan." Stuff like that is a big concern for me. It's one thing to be a pain for the coach to deal with, it's a completely different thing to be a pain for his teammates. Guelph actually scratched him for "disciplinary" reasons when he was their leading scorer. Here's another quote from a source regarding his maturity level: "Tony (DeAngelo) has the maturity of a 15 year old. Ryan has the maturity of a 12 year old. At least teammates could tolerate (DeAngelo)." The article also speculates that entitlement could be an issue as the game has come relatively easily to him. He was the 1st overall pick in the OHL draft and has always been one of the better players on his team. Now as the going has gotten a little bit tougher in the OHL, he's responded with complaining and pouting. That kind of stuff is what drops a top-10 talent into the 2nd round. I would highly recommend reading that article. It has a lot of video examples of both the positive and negative aspects of his game. For me, I had him near the top of my wishlist for our 2nd rounder. This article might drop him a little bit on my personal list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 ESPN article on the combine: http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/23639169/nhl-expect-2018-nhl-scouting-combine-including-look-events-former-top-performers-wingate-test Includes some good quotes from Judd Brackett, which I’ll post here: "You can definitely help yourself at the combine," says Judd Brackett, who is the director of amateur scouting for the Vancouver Canucks, noting that the interview portion is the most important part of the week for his club. This week can help further clarify things for a team, especially since many of the general managers will be even more heavily involved in this part of the process. "As a group, we expect to be doing a lot of interviewing throughout the year anyway," continues Brackett. "In a way, we want to have [the combine interview] be a continuation of where an [earlier] interview left off in front of everybody so we get a good feel for the character, the make-up, what motivates them, what drives them." Brackett says the Canucks, who own the No. 7 overall pick and a pick in every round except the fourth, plan to meet with upwards of 80 prospects over the course of the week. Even if Vancouver doesn't draft the player, the information gathered in combine interviews could come in handy down the line if it is looking to acquire that same player via trade or free agency. The interview process can vary for teams, but some rooms will have a good chunk of a team's amateur scouting staff, the general manager, the assistant GM, other various hockey operations personnel and sometimes even the team president or owner. It's a pretty intimidating environment made more challenging sometimes by the line of questioning as teams look to find what makes certain players tick. "I think it is important to come in with specific questions that might be triggers for that player or person," says Brackett. "Maybe it was something you saw in how they played or a comment that a coach made. You want to be prepared, but a lot of times the conversation will go a direction and you go with it. Is there a pressure point or a question that maybe you want to touch on and see how they react or what their response is? Absolutely, but it could come natural with a pre-plan or the intention of asking that." Canucks meeting with 80+ prospects. Glad they’re being thorough. I agree that the interview can tell you a lot, especially about players with “character issues” and whether or not their reputations are actually deserved. Also laughed at this question Josh Norris got asked last year. Norris recalled one team asking him if he was a "beer or liquor guy," noting that was the one question that caught him off guard and made him chuckle a bit during his own interview process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Horvat is a Boss said: This is a really good article on Merkley. It goes over how he has elite offensive offensive tools, particularly his passing and vision. It also highlights his deficiencies, particularly his lack of effort at times and his attitude. Here's a quote from the article from one of his sources regarding Merkley's attitude: "He's just a sh**head, and I'm his biggest fan." Stuff like that is a big concern for me. It's one thing to be a pain for the coach to deal with, it's a completely different thing to be a pain for his teammates. Guelph actually scratched him for "disciplinary" reasons when he was their leading scorer. Here's another quote from a source regarding his maturity level: "Tony (DeAngelo) has the maturity of a 15 year old. Ryan has the maturity of a 12 year old. At least teammates could tolerate (DeAngelo)." The article also speculates that entitlement could be an issue as the game has come relatively easily to him. He was the 1st overall pick in the OHL draft and has always been one of the better players on his team. Now as the going has gotten a little bit tougher in the OHL, he's responded with complaining and pouting. That kind of stuff is what drops a top-10 talent into the 2nd round. I would highly recommend reading that article. It has a lot of video examples of both the positive and negative aspects of his game. For me, I had him near the top of my wishlist for our 2nd rounder. This article might drop him a little bit on my personal list. Defense version of Josh Ho-Sang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The latest rankings from MyNHLDraft, dated May 28: 1. Dahlin 2. Svechnikov 3. Zadina 4. Hughes 5. Boqvist 6. Wahlstrom 7. Tkachuk 8. Kotkaniemi 9. Veleno 10. Bouchard 11. Dobson 12. Farabee 13. Smith 14. Hayton 15. Wilde Merkley has been bumped to the 2nd round. Interesting how Kotkeniemi has risen, and Bouchard and Dobson have dropped a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 22 hours ago, Odd. said: No he’s not...as much as I like Bo. After pulling a similar trade like this with the Hall/Larsson trade, they’re not going to make the same mistake again and certainly arent gonna trade Draisaitl to a western rival. Also how does this trade make sense for them? Sutter isn’t someone you want to acquire to replace a 70/80 point player and a defenseman with a troubled injury history. Gaunce has next to no value and is a player they can just acquire on waivers next season. Yes he is....! Draisatl can't pass with Bo...he can't skate with Bo and he can't defend like Bo.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Hoping Dobson "falls" to us....regardless of the rankings, I see him as the second best D. available with Hughes close behind...I think someone grabs him before us though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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