Nucker 67 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Benning and Co. have a real tough choice to make. It may come down to choosing between: Tkachuk, Kotkaniemi, Bouchard or Dobson. Who to take?! Well, if the Canucks plan on using Pettersson as a Top 6C, then it wouldn't make much sense to bring in another C with the same aspirations (unless one of them is later traded). Tkachuk would certainly fill a need. The Canucks could use more snarl up front, especially with Pettersson and Dahlen soon to be joining the team. The Canucks also don't have a #1LW IMO. Sorry Sven. Bouchard and Dobson are similar in that they both have size, both are right-shot Dmen. Both have racked up points in their leagues. I would give the edge to Bouchard as he has a history of playing with Juolevi and had a better offensive year than Dobson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Stick plan. Draft well, develop, sign short term UFAs in the interim. A blockbuster trade to improve the Canucks would sure be nice, but I doubt Benning does anything drastic. As for the future, I see these players forming the new core: ________ - Horvat - Boeser Dahlen - Pettersson - Lind Gadjovich - Gaudette - Palmu ________ - ________ - Virtanen Juolevi - ________ Brisebois - Stecher ________ - Gudbranson Chatfield At #7, the Canucks may have these players to choose from: F - Wahlstrom (C/RW), Tkachuk (LW/C), Kotkaniemi (C) D - Bouchard (RD), Boqvist (RD), Hughes (LD), Dobson (RD) My choices are Tkachuk and Boqvist. Two types of players the Canucks don't have, but could use. No Goldie in your lineup? He might be good to slot in the 2nd RW and move Lind down to 3rd... Palmu to LW 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Benning and Co. have a real tough choice to make. It may come down to choosing between: Tkachuk, Kotkaniemi, Bouchard or Dobson. Who to take?! Well, if the Canucks plan on using Pettersson as a Top 6C, then it wouldn't make much sense to bring in another C with the same aspirations (unless one of them is later traded). Tkachuk would certainly fill a need. The Canucks could use more snarl up front, especially with Pettersson and Dahlen soon to be joining the team. The Canucks also don't have a #1LW IMO. Sorry Sven. Bouchard and Dobson are similar in that they both have size, both are right-shot Dmen. Both have racked up points in their leagues. I would give the edge to Bouchard as he has a history of playing with Juolevi and had a better offensive year than Dobson. Which is easier to trade for: the snarly winger (Tkachuk) or the top offensive Dman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: The latest rankings from MyNHLDraft, dated May 28: 1. Dahlin 2. Svechnikov 3. Zadina 4. Hughes 5. Boqvist 6. Wahlstrom 7. Tkachuk 8. Kotkaniemi 9. Veleno 10. Bouchard 11. Dobson 12. Farabee 13. Smith 14. Hayton 15. Wilde Merkley has been bumped to the 2nd round. Interesting how Kotkeniemi has risen, and Bouchard and Dobson have dropped a bit. I don't think boqvist will go before Dobson anymore and the combine will only help Dobson. hes going to interview great and he will do great in the physical testing. Plus he's a winner and teams had extended looks at him. mynhldraft is okay but it's not a real representation of how the draft will actually go. If that was the way the draft went with Tkachuk/Dobson/Kotkaniemi available at 7 it would be interesting to see who we took. Because benning said all things equal they will take the C/D over wingers if equal talent assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: No Goldie in your lineup? He might be good to slot in the 2nd RW and move Lind down to 3rd... Palmu to LW 4th I'm still not sold on Goldobin, which is why I never included him. I also never included Baer, Granlund. and Leipsic. as I'm not sure they'll be a part of the new core down the road. But who knows? 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: Which is easier to trade for: the snarly winger (Tkachuk) or the top offensive Dman? That is a very good point. Wingers are much easier to acquire via trade than top Cs and Ds. 17 minutes ago, R3aL said: I don't think boqvist will go before Dobson anymore and the combine will only help Dobson. hes going to interview great and he will do great in the physical testing. Plus he's a winner and teams had extended looks at him. mynhldraft is okay but it's not a real representation of how the draft will actually go. If that was the way the draft went with Tkachuk/Dobson/Kotkaniemi available at 7 it would be interesting to see who we took. Because benning said all things equal they will take the C/D over wingers if equal talent assessment Another good point, these are just rankings based on stats and momentum, etc. They don't rank their character, which is huge for Benning. Probably 100% sure he doesn't draft Merkley lol Dobson seem like a real good kid, and just won a Memorial Cup. Benning likes to draft winners (Virtanen, Demko, Gaudette, Boeser, Juolevi, Pettersson, Gadjovich, DiPietro). I can see him taking Dobson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Benning and Co. have a real tough choice to make. It may come down to choosing between: Tkachuk, Kotkaniemi, Bouchard or Dobson. Who to take?! Well, if the Canucks plan on using Pettersson as a Top 6C, then it wouldn't make much sense to bring in another C with the same aspirations (unless one of them is later traded). Tkachuk would certainly fill a need. The Canucks could use more snarl up front, especially with Pettersson and Dahlen soon to be joining the team. The Canucks also don't have a #1LW IMO. Sorry Sven. Bouchard and Dobson are similar in that they both have size, both are right-shot Dmen. Both have racked up points in their leagues. I would give the edge to Bouchard as he has a history of playing with Juolevi and had a better offensive year than Dobson. That is going to be a tough choice if it comes to your scenario... pass on Tkachuk, who fills a definite positional need and who can cause a ruckus and draw penalties, is not afraid to stir it up and do some dirty work or help fill out our D core with some much needed top pedigree dman. If we go dman it will be Juolevi 2.0 all over again here in CDC land and chaos will ensue, and media will turn on fans and fans will turn on each other......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: That is going to be a tough choice if it comes to your scenario... pass on Tkachuk, who fills a definite positional need and who can cause a ruckus and draw penalties, is not afraid to stir it up and do some dirty work or help fill out our D core with some much needed top pedigree dman. If we go dman it will be Juolevi 2.0 all over again here in CDC land and chaos will ensue, and media will turn on fans and fans will turn on each other......... haha, yep, I can see that. But I think D take longer to develop, so we have to be patient with them. Benning did say though, that they would take the BPA, and that isn't necessarily a D. But it could be. I've been feeling it could be Dobson for a while now, but I've been enamored with other players a little more (Hughes, Boqvist, Wahlstrom). With Dobson just winning the MC, and having a great tournament, he could be what they need. Whoever they take I'll support. Might be a shock (like last year), but I'll warm up to it. And chances are, Benning will make the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Something I thought of while watching these playoffs. The name of the game is speed, speed, speed and great goaltending. Vegas doesn't really have a #1D or a star forward, per say. They work and play as a team, running like a well oiled machine. And they're fast, getting to pucks first, making passes quick, all over the opposition. I can see this new Vegas model catching on. It goes to show you don't have to pay anyone $10 million a year to find success. All of the players on the same page and coached extremely well, makes a huge difference. I wonder if this will change how GMs draft players from now on. Players like Tkachuk and Bouchard, for example, aren't fast players, even though they have other attributes. Didn't Dobson just place well in all of the skating tests? Hughes also has great speed. I really wish we could get him. This is why I like Leipsic, his speed and tenacity (and skill). Horvat has really improved his skating. Virtanen is like the Flash. Goldobin skates pretty well. Gaudette is fast, and tenacious (with some size). Pettersson looks like he can hold his own too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2000 games watched. 200 cities. One goal. A season's worth of scouting is debated behind closed doors as the Vancouver Canucks prepare for the 2018 NHL Entry Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 12:13 PM, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Yes he is....! Draisatl can't pass with Bo...he can't skate with Bo and he can't defend like Bo.....! No matter how many times you say this it won't be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Good to see we are back up and ranting...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, N7Nucks said: No matter how many times you say this it won't be true. ....just watch....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: 2000 games watched. 200 cities. One goal. A season's worth of scouting is debated behind closed doors as the Vancouver Canucks prepare for the 2018 NHL Entry Draft. I watched this yesterday and read the nhl.com interview with judd brackett. a lot of interesting insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ....just watch....! I do, that's why I don't make crazy claims like you do. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Out of curiosity, I looked at the 2016 Draft, and how those players did last season: (points-per-game average last season) 1. Matthews (#1) - 1.02 2. Laine (#2) - 0.85 3. Keller (#7) - 0.79 4. Tkachuk (#6) - 0.72 5. Dubois (#3) - 0.59 6. Sergachev (#9) - 0.51 7. McAvoy (#14) - 0.51 8. Jost (#10) - 0.34 9. Puljujarvi (#4) - 0.31 10. Nylander (#8) - 0.29 11. Chychrun (#16) - 0.28 It's interesting, and I wonder where Juolevi would've been if he played. He was the only Top 10 pick from this Draft who hasn't played in the NHL yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, tas said: I watched this yesterday and read the nhl.com interview with judd brackett. a lot of interesting insights. Judd said something about how this particular Center is a really good playmaker and has excellent skating ability. Seems to me he’s really high on Veleno. I’ve really warmed up to him recently and I could very well see him being our pick at 7th. We wouldn’t need to fret over Pettersson being able to play Center or not. But that said I don’t think he’s the BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, Odd. said: Judd said something about how this particular Center is a really good playmaker and has excellent skating ability. Seems to me he’s really high on Veleno. I’ve really warmed up to him recently and I could very well see him being our pick at 7th. We wouldn’t need to fret over Pettersson being able to play Center or not. It is odd, I've seen Veleno and Farabaee ranked high for months, and yet no one talks about them. Let's see, Canucks could use a #1LW, with a high hockey IQ, speed and can score. That spells success in today's NHL. Adam Kimelman - NHL.com - April 30: "But what separates Farabee (6'0", 164) is his speed, combined with a high hockey IQ and a quick-release shot that produced 33 goals this season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 1:37 PM, NUCKER67 said: haha, yep, I can see that. But I think D take longer to develop, so we have to be patient with them. Benning did say though, that they would take the BPA, and that isn't necessarily a D. But it could be. I've been feeling it could be Dobson for a while now, but I've been enamored with other players a little more (Hughes, Boqvist, Wahlstrom). With Dobson just winning the MC, and having a great tournament, he could be what they need. Whoever they take I'll support. Might be a shock (like last year), but I'll warm up to it. And chances are, Benning will make the right choice. Pretty much how I feel, whoever Benning takes, will be a great addition to our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 was CDC down for awhile? was I blocked for some reason? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Odd. said: Judd said something about how this particular Center is a really good playmaker and has excellent skating ability. Seems to me he’s really high on Veleno. I’ve really warmed up to him recently and I could very well see him being our pick at 7th. We wouldn’t need to fret over Pettersson being able to play Center or not. But that said I don’t think he’s the BPA I'm not convinced that this was about a first rounder. I think scouts would speak highly of later round prospects to convince managment to pick them when the time comes. I get the feeling that they wouldn't have filmed any of the conversation of the first round, just in case other teams are trying to dissect the video. I know it sounds paranoid, but I do believe that teams are watching to see what others are taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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