R.Dahlin26 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Isam said: Theres alot more separation then that in this years draft. I could see some nice looking prospects like K'andre Miller or Alex Alexeyev, maybe even Ryan Merkley fall pick #35 which is where our second round pick should end up. Wouldn't surprise if those d-men turn into #2/#3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: No trading down never works. In the first round take BPA, if you want someone else trade an asset and obtain another pick. We are far, far from a lock at skilled forwards., Right now I count one RW in Brock, and a strong possibility of Pettersson. But there's a long ways to go before we can start being picky about the players we are skipping on the draft I disagree completely. If we don’t get some high end home grown D prospects in the system we’ll be stuck trying to acquire one selling from a bloated, expensive forward group. Most likely with a middle of the pack hopeless teams. Trying to win with a bunch of wingers wont work either - BPA or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, R.Dahlin26 said: I could see some nice looking prospects like K'andre Miller or Alex Alexeyev, maybe even Ryan Merkley fall pick #35 which is where our second round pick should end up. Wouldn't surprise if those d-men turn into #2/#3. Merkleys a wreck in his own zone and is being outperformed by bouchard. I love miller but he atleast needs two years in college plus a year in the ahl since he has trouble making defensive reads. As for alexyeev, he doesnt have the upside of a bouchard, smith or dobson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 PPQB Merkley, Addinson, Tychonick, Smith, Hughes, Sandin, Boqvist Two way Wilde, Woo, McIsaac, Wilde, Dobson, Bouchard, Alexeyev Defensive/Size Miller, Bahl, Samuelsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Dahlin26 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Isam said: Merkleys a wreck in his own zone and is being outperformed by bouchard. I love miller but he atleast needs two years in college plus a year in the ahl since he has trouble making defensive reads. As for alexyeev, he doesnt have the upside of a bouchard, smith or dobson. And Bouchard needs to show more in the defensive zone, show more intensity shift to shift and lacks dynamic skating needed in today's NHL. I do like Dobson but not more than the elite forwards. Ty Smith is just completely meh for me. Decent at everything but not great at anything. Prefer the 3 d-men I listed over him who have more upside IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Dahlin26 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: PPQB Merkley, Addinson, Tychonick, Smith, Hughes, Sandin, Boqvist Two way Wilde, Woo, McIsaac, Wilde, Dobson, Bouchard, Alexeyev Defensive/Size Miller, Bahl, Samuelsson Sandin and Woo are 2 other d-men that I really like that are being undervalued and could slip into the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, R.Dahlin26 said: And Bouchard needs to show more in the defensive zone, show more intensity sifht to shift and lack dynamic skating needed in today's NHL. I do like Dobson but not more than the elite forwards. Ty Smith is just completely meh for me. Decent at everything but not great at anything. Prefer the 3 d-men I listed over him. Thats your choice. Too me, if van is in the top five, they're going to have to figure out if boqvist or dobson are better then the fowards listed in the top five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, R.Dahlin26 said: Sandin and Woo are 2 other d-men that I really like that are being undervalued and could slip into the second. Woo will be a first rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Dahlin26 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Isam said: Thats your choice. Too me, if van is in the top five, they're going to have to figure out if boqvist or dobson are better then the fowards listed in the top five. Yup, it going to be interesting. Here's to winning the Dahlin sweepstakes though so we can all sleep well at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Dahlin26 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Isam said: Woo will be a first rounder We will see. That's why draft day is so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: I disagree completely. If we don’t get some high end home grown D prospects in the system we’ll be stuck trying to acquire one selling from a bloated, expensive forward group. Most likely with a middle of the pack hopeless teams. Trying to win with a bunch of wingers wont work either - BPA or no. There's only one locked high end prospect and he's projected to go first overall. So unless we win the lotto you pick BPA. You'd have to be pretty sold on your scouting prowess to turn down a low risk, high potential forward to trade down and draft a D that is considerably higher risk. Add in the fact that you don't know if the player you have your eye on will still be on the board. No thanks, pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: There's only one locked high end prospect and he's projected to go first overall. So unless we win the lotto you pick BPA. You'd have to be pretty sold on your scouting prowess to turn down a low risk, high potential forward to trade down and draft a D that is considerably higher risk. Add in the fact that you don't know if the player you have your eye on will still be on the board. No thanks, pass It depends on what’s on the table for a potential trade down. In a draft chalk full of D I’d be listening. That said, I’d be happy with just taking Boqvist. If we win the 2nd or 3rd is where it gets interesting. Obviously if you keep the pick you have to go Svech-Tkachuk but I really think then a move needs to be made to acquire some D help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, ilduce39 said: It depends on what’s on the table for a potential trade down. In a draft chalk full of D I’d be listening. That said, I’d be happy with just taking Boqvist. If we win the 2nd or 3rd is where it gets interesting. Obviously if you keep the pick you have to go Svech-Tkachuk but I really think then a move needs to be made to acquire some D help. Got zadina ranked higher atm. His skating is just better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Isam said: Got zadina ranked higher atm. His skating is just better I hate evoking the Oilers but too many forwards without D is perilous and leads to Hall-for-Larson like trades to try and make up ground. Not many idiot GMs trade away Sergachev-level defencemen for skilled forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, ilduce39 said: I hate evoking the Oilers but too many forwards without D is perilous and leads to Hall-for-Larson like trades to try and make up ground. Not many idiot GMs trade away Sergachev-level defencemen for skilled forwards. I know. I actually am hoping for boqvist man. To me he's the number two guy in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Isam said: I know. I actually am hoping for boqvist man. To me he's the number two guy in this draft. Yeah I haven’t really looked into it much yet... sounds like Svetch is a clear cut #2 but I’ll take Boqvist any day we don’t get Dahlin. 40+ years later we’re due for a #1 though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: I hate evoking the Oilers but too many forwards without D is perilous and leads to Hall-for-Larson like trades to try and make up ground. Not many idiot GMs trade away Sergachev-level defencemen for skilled forwards. We will never be like the oilers, i've already pointed this out, but there problem wasn't just the forwards they picked in the first round it's that in a 6 year span they only landed 1 fulltime NHL player outside the first round. A player that they traded before he even laced up a game with the oilers.. Had the oilers been someone reasonable at drafting outside the first round, they wouldn't be near the joke they are today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 In order in in 1st overall or top 10 Dahlin Tkachuk Zadina Bouchard If 10-15 Veleno Dobson Kotkaniemi if 15-20 Kupari Merkley What we REALLY need is a couple of secondary picks. One in the first 14-25 and one in the 2nd 37-45 We could possibly see one or both but who knows. I want all the prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, ilduce39 said: Yeah I haven’t really looked into it much yet... sounds like Svetch is a clear cut #2 but I’ll take Boqvist any day we don’t get Dahlin. 40+ years later we’re due for a #1 though... Its close between svech, boqvist, and zadina for number two. It will depend the teams that get into the top five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Draft top 4 in order Dahlin, Svech, Zadina, Tkachuk, If we draft a forward, Offer sheet Dumba in July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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