Ray_Cathode Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 16 hours ago, filthycanuck said: I really hope another team takes a chance on Sven Baertchi, the guy deserves another shot I'm sure any other team could get him for essentially nothing and they have been able to for the past couple of years - nobody wants him and his concussion history. Ferland had the same kind of history with concussions, but Benning decided it wasn't a problem. Those kind of decisions are the reason we have so much unproductive or under productive cap space, On the other hand, Benning has made some fine choices in the draft, and we will see another fine choice tonight in Hoglander, and hopefully soon have another great choice in Podkolzin. Hopefully Benning's crew master cap management before we have to re-sign Hughes and Pettersson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 It would be huge if Lind could play centre. He's a pest, and has a scoring touch. The question marks, skating (isn't the best), draws (gotta be better than Gaudette), defensively 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: I'm sure any other team could get him for essentially nothing and they have been able to for the past couple of years - nobody wants him and his concussion history. Ferland had the same kind of history with concussions, but Benning decided it wasn't a problem. Those kind of decisions are the reason we have so much unproductive or under productive cap space, On the other hand, Benning has made some fine choices in the draft, and we will see another fine choice tonight in Hoglander, and hopefully soon have another great choice in Podkolzin. Hopefully Benning's crew master cap management before we have to re-sign Hughes and Pettersson. I’m wondering if the Sens have interest? They need some offence and Baer could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksForever2 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 As soon as Lind is doing well and looking promising for the future, we might lose him to Seattle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, CanucksForever2 said: As soon as Lind is doing well and looking promising for the future, we might lose him to Seattle.... So nobody talk Lind at least until after the expansion draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: I’m wondering if the Sens have interest? They need some offence and Baer could help. They have been able to get him for more than a year, probably for the cost of just taking him off the Canucks hands and taking on his cap. But it’s a risk, they could take him, be on the hook for the financial bite, and he is at high risk of being back on the LTIR in a heartbeat. There is very little doubt that Baer can generate offence, for for how long, for what cost. The Sens management is not known for throwing their cash away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: They have been able to get him for more than a year, probably for the cost of just taking him off the Canucks hands and taking on his cap. But it’s a risk, they could take him, be on the hook for the financial bite, and he is at high risk of being back on the LTIR in a heartbeat. There is very little doubt that Baer can generate offence, for for how long, for what cost. The Sens management is not known for throwing their cash away. If we could do 50% retention on Baer and add Gaudette in exchange for Nick Paul... I'd be all for it. Or throw in Virtanen if we can nab Tierney instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, aGENT said: If we could do 50% retention on Baer and add Gaudette in exchange for Nick Paul... I'd be all for it. Or throw in Virtanen if we can nab Tierney instead. I’m beginning to think Jake needs a change of scenery, and we have MacEwen still coming along, and Hoglander seems to have taken that second line spot on RW. Then there is Cole Lind coming along, maybe as a centre, and that could push Gaudette to the wing. Jake still has value, but that value decreases the longer he does not play. I’m not sure we need a body in return, we have a number of young prospects at a stage where they are becoming players, I’d prefer to get picks if we can. Benning has a strong draft record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said: I’m beginning to think Jake needs a change of scenery, and we have MacEwen still coming along, and Hoglander seems to have taken that second line spot on RW. Then there is Cole Lind coming along, maybe as a centre, and that could push Gaudette to the wing. Jake still has value, but that value decreases the longer he does not play. I’m not sure we need a body in return, we have a number of young prospects at a stage where they are becoming players, I’d prefer to get picks if we can. Benning has a strong draft record. I’d also consider using Jake as the sweetener to finally move Eriksson. Maybe retain a little, and/or get a small return (late pick), whatever balances out the trade, but primarily just to shed the last two years of Eriksson’s contract. Offloading two contracts, and opening up two spots in the forward depth chart, would just be an added bonus. Plenty of guys, like Lind and Podkolzin, appear ready to fill the spots vacated. And the freed up salary space would obviously be a benefit, whether used toward extensions on Petey and Hughes (might even be able to go longterm instead of bridge), or to upgrade weak areas on the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said: I’m beginning to think Jake needs a change of scenery, and we have MacEwen still coming along, and Hoglander seems to have taken that second line spot on RW. Then there is Cole Lind coming along, maybe as a centre, and that could push Gaudette to the wing. Jake still has value, but that value decreases the longer he does not play. I’m not sure we need a body in return, we have a number of young prospects at a stage where they are becoming players, I’d prefer to get picks if we can. Benning has a strong draft record. Given that number of bodies, I'd be fine doing a two or even three for one deal if it means a meaningful upgrade (which a young, legit 3C would be IMO). We solidify that position and it's another of our quickly diminishing holes plugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: So nobody talk Lind at least until after the expansion draft. You could explore protecting him and exposing Jake. With Jakes contract and record Seattle may be hard pressed to do so. You get 7 forwards so go EP, Boes, Bo JT, Gaud, Mac, Lind or Motte (Hogz exempt) and expose Jake, Pearson. I’m thinking Seattle takes Holtby though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, aGENT said: Given that number of bodies, I'd be fine doing a two or even three for one deal if it means a meaningful upgrade (which a young, legit 3C would be IMO). We solidify that position and it's another of our quickly diminishing holes plugged. Why would another team want quantity for quality? It waters down their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, mll said: Why would another team want quantity for quality? It waters down their roster. That's literally what rebuilding teams do. Thanks though bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 9 hours ago, aGENT said: That's literally what rebuilding teams do. Thanks though bruh. You were answering to a post about moving Virtanen to give him a change of scenery and having prospects ready to become players. Waiver eligibility kicks in at some point. There’s also the 50 contract limit so it’s not like teams can just hoard B prospects on top of their own. Which assets do you have in mind for a team to be willing to part with a young legit C3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, mll said: You were answering to a post about moving Virtanen to give him a change of scenery and having prospects ready to become players. Waiver eligibility kicks in at some point. There’s also the 50 contract limit so it’s not like teams can just hoard B prospects on top of their own. Which assets do you have in mind for a team to be willing to part with a young legit C3. Some mix of Virtanen, Gaudette and a prospect and/or pick likely.. basically a standard rebuild trade like we've seen a million times. Still young players + prospects. But you keep on carrying on mll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 1/31/2021 at 12:19 AM, Outsiders said: It would be huge if Lind could play centre. He's a pest, and has a scoring touch. The question marks, skating (isn't the best), draws (gotta be better than Gaudette), defensively Gauds is on borrowed time if Lind excels at centre. Him being able to play multiple forward positions will almost guarantee him a spot in the lineup, especially with Beagle and Roussels contracts ending in next summer 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I would trade Virtanen for Bennett so fast if I could....We really lack the gritty toughness that Bennett plays with, good 3rd line centre or plays wing, makes big hits, drops his gloves. We have MacEwen, Myers, Hamonic, really miss Ferland for this....Vancouver is soft and we must change this.. Tryamkin 6'8, 265 we need his toughness, teams would be aware when he is on the ice, Podkolzin 6'2 will also add toughness...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Big game coming up on Friday, Kole Lind about to prove himself at the centre ice position. Will Kole Lind be the third line centre of the future for the Vancouver Canucks? Will the Canucks end up protecting Kole Lind in the expansion draft? I may be dreaming, I may just be hoping, but I'm thinking yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Comeback_Kings said: Will the Canucks end up protecting Kole Lind in the expansion draft? I may be dreaming, I may just be hoping, but I'm thinking yes. He's still on his entry level contract, which means we don't have to expose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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