Elias Pettersson Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, higgyfan said: It looks like the prospects have to play 27/54 games this year. Juolevi (14), Chatfield(18), Mac(15) games remaining, so they will manage Chatfield and Mac's games remaining, so they can keep Mac exempt, but likely leave Chat unprotected. All the others would have play 27 games to lose their exemptions. At least that's how it appears to me. This is not correct. The requirement for expansion protection is 2 years of pro hockey, not games played. Pro hockey includes the AHL. So MacEwen, Juolevi and Chatfield all need to be protected. Games played is for meeting the criteria of who is on your list. So for example unless Chatfield plays in 27 games this year, we would need to expose either Schmidt or Myers to meet that requirement for defensemen. We have several forwards who meet the requirement so we don't need to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: This is not correct. The requirement for expansion protection is 2 years of pro hockey, not games played. Pro hockey includes the AHL. So MacEwen, Juolevi and Chatfield all need to be protected. Games played is for meeting the criteria of who is on your list. So for example unless Chatfield plays in 27 games this year, we would need to expose either Schmidt or Myers to meet that requirement for defensemen. We have several forwards who meet the requirement so we don't need to worry about that. Won’t Edler meet the requirements if we don’t protect him? Or Benn? Edited February 20, 2021 by Ray_Cathode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: Won’t Edler meet the requirements if we don’t protect him? Or Benn? Only if we re-sign them. They are both UFA’s at the end of the year. Not sure Edler would re-sign and then agree to be left unprotected. He will probably wait until after the draft before he decides what to do. Benn is an option but if he doesn’t get selected then we are stuck with him for another year. If Edler re-signs and Tryamkin comes over we could have too many Dmen under contract with Benn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockeye Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 3:01 PM, aGENT said: I believe Lind, Jasek and Gadjovich will all reach games played to be considered having had their third pro season. No, I don't think so. It's based on NHL games played not pro games. Lind, Jasek and Gadjovich aren't eligible to be picked by Seattle so no worries about having them on the protected list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 If he is eligible then I hope they protect him as the #7F. Next year could try him as a center and see if he can play on the 3rd line (if his defensive play, grit and face-offs translate to the NHL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, sockeye said: No, I don't think so. It's based on NHL games played not pro games. Lind, Jasek and Gadjovich aren't eligible to be picked by Seattle so no worries about having them on the protected list. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, sockeye said: No, I don't think so. It's based on NHL games played not pro games. Lind, Jasek and Gadjovich aren't eligible to be picked by Seattle so no worries about having them on the protected list. No that’s incorrect. It’s based on pro seasons. All three of those players need protection. Here is a list of players who don’t need protection from CapFriendly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 13 hours ago, BarnBurner said: At this point, I'm not making any rash decisions. This scenario will literally play itself out. There's still time to make those choices. And by the way, I am not a Gaudette hater. I want him to do well. If he deserves to be protected, so be it. I wouldn't be worried about Gaudette being taken even if he is exposed, even Lind. Theres going to be a lot of young players who are better, and have a higher pedigree that will be available. The Kraken aren't just going to draft a team full of young guys, theres going to be a handful of veterans, some 4-5 year guys that are established and consistently productive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 20 hours ago, filthycanuck said: I wouldn't be worried about Gaudette being taken even if he is exposed, even Lind. Theres going to be a lot of young players who are better, and have a higher pedigree that will be available. The Kraken aren't just going to draft a team full of young guys, theres going to be a handful of veterans, some 4-5 year guys that are established and consistently productive The problem is not about other teams, the problem will be who is available from our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 9:21 PM, Ray_Cathode said: The problem is not about other teams, the problem will be who is available from our team. Just out of interest where does Seattle draft at ? There was rumour that this years draft would be cancelled but what would happen to the expansion then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Fred65 said: Just out of interest where does Seattle draft at ? There was rumour that this years draft would be cancelled but what would happen to the expansion then? July 21, 2021 for the expansion draft. Cancelling the normal draft would be a big burden for Seattle because it could make it more difficult to trade with teams attempting to protect extra players by giving up draft picks. Las Vegas prospered enormously from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) The fact we’re worrying about losing a Kole Lind or an Adam Gaudette to expansion show just how lucky we are, at least when it comes to the expansion draft (it also exposes some of the roster weakness in Vancouver, but that’s another discussion). So many other teams are in much worse shape, and will risk losing valuable, core, or near-core, roster players. If losing Lind or Gauds is our worst case scenario, we should feel very lucky (and I’m a fan of both players). Edited February 23, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: The fact we’re worrying about losing a Kole Lind or an Adam Gaudette to expansion show just how lucky we are, at least when it comes to the expansion draft (it also exposed some of the roster weakness in Vancouver, but that’s another discussion). So many other teams are in much worse shape, and will risk losing valuable, core, or near-core, roster players. If losing Lind or Gauds is our worst case scenario, we should feel very lucky (and I’m a fan of both players). Even the last expansion draft we were working about losing gaunce lol. Pittsburgh lost Fleury! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Pittsburgh lost Fleury! Pretty much wanted to, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 23 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: July 21, 2021 for the expansion draft. Cancelling the normal draft would be a big burden for Seattle because it could make it more difficult to trade with teams attempting to protect extra players by giving up draft picks. Las Vegas prospered enormously from that. Can you actually have the expansion without the amateur draft ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Fred65 said: Can you actually have the expansion without the amateur draft ? The amateur draft will be held on July 23–24, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 16 hours ago, higgyfan said: The amateur draft will be held on July 23–24, 2021 I heard a report from Bill Daly, with few CHL games being played they (NHL) were looking to combine the 21 & 22 draft together to allow teams to scout prospects ie no 21 draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) On 2/22/2021 at 4:18 PM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: The fact we’re worrying about losing a Kole Lind or an Adam Gaudette to expansion show just how lucky we are, at least when it comes to the expansion draft (it also exposes some of the roster weakness in Vancouver, but that’s another discussion). So many other teams are in much worse shape, and will risk losing valuable, core, or near-core, roster players. If losing Lind or Gauds is our worst case scenario, we should feel very lucky (and I’m a fan of both players). You're so right about that, man we have been very lucky to not be in that position. Hell last expansion draft I was concerned about losing Brendan Gaunce....LOL Its odd how this fanbase...even myself get so attached and hold each player as a sacred piece to this organization even when they in the big picture are likely not. I guess just how things have gone with asset management with the past 3 regimes has me fearful of "what if". Haha This was a good reminder for me. Edited February 24, 2021 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Looking forward to the Comet's game on Friday. I think Kole could be playing effectively in Vancouver right now as a bottom 6 player because he really is looking good so far (only 2 games so far, Ha, Ha). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 1:11 PM, dpn1 said: Looking forward to the Comet's game on Friday. I think Kole could be playing effectively in Vancouver right now as a bottom 6 player because he really is looking good so far (only 2 games so far, Ha, Ha). ??? He has played 5 games, has 4 goals, no assists, and is -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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