Me_ Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Wouldn't it be funny if Yakupov came in and meshed perfectly with the Sedins, thereby affording them, the Canucks and fans alike, the luxury of having the Sedins for the next 4-5 more years? He is a goal scorer after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 hours ago, J.R. said: I'd gladly take any of Boucher, Rodin, Weal or Gagner on the team. I figure we've got room for 2...maybe 3 of them. By the sound of Linden's interview today, they have pretty substantial interest in Gagner, and perhaps Weal as a target if they fail to get him. Still rather give Rodin a shot, and that would mean one (or both) of Virtanen or Goldobin would still have to go down. Hopefully sign for no more than 2 years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Bettman Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 hours ago, VIC_CITY said: He's 25 years old and has 37 NHL games to his name. Not sure what you're getting at? LOL he has more points than Boucher in 16 less games played this season. His PPG was 0.52 VS. Boucher's 0.26. He was scratched for a large period of that time too. He only has 37 games because he didn't fit in LA's structured and heavy body play since he was an undersized player. His AHL numbers with the Monarchs show he has high potential. 70pts and 69pts in his first 2 seasons respectively and 22 playoff pts and a playoff MVP title to go along with it. He also only played 37 games since he was a healthy scratch with the flyers because they didn't want to risk putting him on wavers. When he did finally play he had 11pts in this final 7 NHL games. His 5-on-5 NHL play with the Flyers was impressive: - Led the Flyers with 2.19 points per 60 mins - 3rd on the Flyers with 7.92 shots per 60 mins - Led the Flyers with 1.46 goals per 60 mins - Led the Flyers in shooting % with 18.42% - Led the Flyers with 55.96 percent Corsi-for rating Thats why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrek Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 20 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: So because Dhaliwal wrote something and you choose to believe it that makes JB a bad manager if he doesn't chase an asset who has not made it on two different teams? I am all about giving players second chances etc. but perhaps there is something about any given player that makes them a non-fit? Perhaps JB has indeed not talked to agent but some of JB's assistants have? Perhaps JB wants to see what the market is for any given player and is already knowing the going price and feels it is too high? Just seems funny to condemn your GM prior to an action (or non-action) and then declare if that action doesn't happen, in spite of theoretically (and hopefully) the team having more information about any given player, you were right and they were wrong. You need to not twist my words if you're going to debate me. First of all I specifically stated "if Dahliwahl's words are true". It's right there in black and white. If JB doesn't go after a former 1st OA pick that would cost us max $2m per year and gives up no assets then yes that does deservedly warrant criticism. I already stated however that if he does end up signing him I take everything back, but trying to push a narrative makes you miss key context and nuance. I didn't condemn him, I said "if", which implies criticism only after he doesn't do said action I want him to take. If that action doesn't happen then yes I will criticize him, sorry. I'm a big fan of Benning's but this is one of those once in a decade opportunities with no risk involved. Passing that up is nuts. Please read all of what I have just written before you respond so I don't have to spend my post correcting your false assumptions and lack of reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrek Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 9 hours ago, VIC_CITY said: I'd take Boucher over all of them. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he scored 20 goals next year. He's young, he's cheap, he has one of the best shots on the team and knows where to go to get open for quality scoring chances. Defense is his only question mark, largely due to his foot speed. But Yak/Weal/Gangner aren't exactly defensive wizards either. +1 for being a big Boucher fan. I was beginning to feel all alone. I still want Rodin and Yakupov though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: By the sound of Linden's interview today, they have pretty substantial interest in Gagner, and perhaps Weal as a target if they fail to get him. Still rather give Rodin a shot, and that would mean one (or both) of Virtanen or Goldobin would still have to go down. Hopefully sign for no more than 2 years as well. I'd still sign Rodin (and Boucher) even if we got Weal and Gagner. More competition at camp, make prospects fight for spots and worst case, guys get waived to Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Mattrek said: You need to not twist my words if you're going to debate me. First of all I specifically stated "if Dahliwahl's words are true". It's right there in black and white. If JB doesn't go after a former 1st OA pick that would cost us max $2m per year and gives up no assets then yes that does deservedly warrant criticism. I already stated however that if he does end up signing him I take everything back, but trying to push a narrative makes you miss key context and nuance. I didn't condemn him, I said "if", which implies criticism only after he doesn't do said action I want him to take. If that action doesn't happen then yes I will criticize him, sorry. I'm a big fan of Benning's but this is one of those once in a decade opportunities with no risk involved. Passing that up is nuts. Please read all of what I have just written before you respond so I don't have to spend my post correcting your false assumptions and lack of reading comprehension. Yak sucks bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 If he played hockey more like his agent (Igor Larionov, which I am a far bigger fan than Bure), Nail would be in demand among 31 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 its like he is skating around like he is getting chased by bees!!! Lol Ray Ferraro is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Yak is Low risk high reward. At 23 he fits the rebuild and is better than Chaput or megna on any of the 4line. Weal 25 fits the rbuild too I wasn't sold on him but if he pans out then sutter could be expendable come Deadline day. both should be fairly cheap and both want to be here. waive Chaput and menga when they clear send them to the farm to be what they are easily replaceable depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, Rush17 said: its like he is skating around like he is getting chased by bees!!! Lol Ray Ferraro is hilarious His comments are hilarious, but I wish more peeps on here who want Nail would listen to Ray's critique of the, arguably, biggest #1 bust of all time. People keep saying that signing him is no risk, but the no risk groupies are only refering to assets and are missing the large risk to morale of the team and other players who might have their spot taken by a project player. There is lots of risk involved in signing him. I, for one, would rather us stay away from these types of situations and prevent the chance of a media frenzy and distraction when things start going sour, because things will go sour eventually. Imagine the Vancouver media with Yak... oh, jeebus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Me_ said: Wouldn't it be funny if Yakupov came in and meshed perfectly with the Sedins, thereby affording them, the Canucks and fans alike, the luxury of having the Sedins for the next 4-5 more years? He is a goal scorer after all... I thought Granlund meshed extremely well with the Sedins in the short time he played with them prior to being injured as did Boesser on the pp. I don't mind taking a shot at Yakky for the right price but I don't want a failed experiment that stifles the development of the younger prospects already in the system. I would like to see him signed for one year, if he bombs then waive him to Utica sooner than later. Bottom line is if he signs on he should get a very short leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Mattrek said: You need to not twist my words if you're going to debate me. First of all I specifically stated "if Dahliwahl's words are true". It's right there in black and white. If JB doesn't go after a former 1st OA pick that would cost us max $2m per year and gives up no assets then yes that does deservedly warrant criticism. I already stated however that if he does end up signing him I take everything back, but trying to push a narrative makes you miss key context and nuance. I didn't condemn him, I said "if", which implies criticism only after he doesn't do said action I want him to take. If that action doesn't happen then yes I will criticize him, sorry. I'm a big fan of Benning's but this is one of those once in a decade opportunities with no risk involved. Passing that up is nuts. Please read all of what I have just written before you respond so I don't have to spend my post correcting your false assumptions and lack of reading comprehension. Passing up a player no one else seemingly wants is nuts? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Mattrek said: You need to not twist my words if you're going to debate me. First of all I specifically stated "if Dahliwahl's words are true". It's right there in black and white. If JB doesn't go after a former 1st OA pick that would cost us max $2m per year and gives up no assets then yes that does deservedly warrant criticism. I already stated however that if he does end up signing him I take everything back, but trying to push a narrative makes you miss key context and nuance. I didn't condemn him, I said "if", which implies criticism only after he doesn't do said action I want him to take. If that action doesn't happen then yes I will criticize him, sorry. I'm a big fan of Benning's but this is one of those once in a decade opportunities with no risk involved. Passing that up is nuts. Please read all of what I have just written before you respond so I don't have to spend my post correcting your false assumptions and lack of reading comprehension. I guess the one issue that its hard for us to know is if the guy is a locker room cancer or really lazy. It concerns me that the Russian national team treats him like the plague, that he clearly didn't put much effort in during his last 2 seasons in Edmonton, and didn't really do anything in St Louis. But, all of that could have other explanations. I suppose if Jim has some inside info on why those things aren't a concern and he can't land other sure things like Gagner, or interesting prospects like Weal, then maybe Yak gets a PTO? It occurs to me that if Yakupov was willing to start the season in Utica that would go a long way to proving he wants to make a go of it here and won't bring any bad attitude with him. He could be signed to an AHL deal (similar to Darren Raddysh) and if he looks good he can be brought up on a pro contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Jester13 said: His comments are hilarious, but I wish more peeps on here who want Nail would listen to Ray's critique of the, arguably, biggest #1 bust of all time. People keep saying that signing him is no risk, but the no risk groupies are only refering to assets and are missing the large risk to morale of the team and other players who might have their spot taken by a project player. There is lots of risk involved in signing him. I, for one, would rather us stay away from these types of situations and prevent the chance of a media frenzy and distraction when things start going sour, because things will go sour eventually. Imagine the Vancouver media with Yak... oh, jeebus. i wouldnt call him a bust quite yet. he put up very respectable numbers in his first season. i think he could falter but i have faith he may be able to piece it together still. he's still so young. i can still see him being a decent 2nd liner who is primarily a scorer. similar to that of michael grabner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 On 6/28/2017 at 8:01 AM, Toyotasfan said: Nail Yakupov is an ethnic Volga Tatar[26]and a Muslim.[27][28] He is the first Tatar ever to be selected first overall at the NHL Entry Draft.[29] With his draft selection, Yakupov surpassed Nazem Kadri as being the highest drafted Muslim player in NHL history. His father, Rail, worked with the HC Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk hockey team as a coach and executive. Yakupov first skated when he was four-years-old, but was more interested in soccer and the English Premier League club Chelseathan hockey.[30] Not many Muslims in the NHL, pretty hard fit I'm sure. No worries of drugs and alcohol ever being a problem though. Right because religion makes all the difference in a person. I'm sure you've never ever met a girl who considers herself to be Christian or Catholic to sleep around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 SEDIN SEDIN BOESER BARTSCHI HORVAT VIRTANEN GOLDOBIN GRANLUND GAGNER ERIKSSON SUTTER WEAL DORSETT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 On 6/28/2017 at 8:01 AM, Toyotasfan said: Nail Yakupov is an ethnic Volga Tatar[26]and a Muslim.[27][28] He is the first Tatar ever to be selected first overall at the NHL Entry Draft.[29] With his draft selection, Yakupov surpassed Nazem Kadri as being the highest drafted Muslim player in NHL history. His father, Rail, worked with the HC Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk hockey team as a coach and executive. Yakupov first skated when he was four-years-old, but was more interested in soccer and the English Premier League club Chelseathan hockey.[30] Not many Muslims in the NHL, pretty hard fit I'm sure. No worries of drugs and alcohol ever being a problem though. Never woulda guessed he was Muslim... I'm sure it's a family thing and he probably doesn't practice but regardless, drugs and alcohol don't seem to be a problem for him. I think he just needs a fresh start with the right support crew. I'll be genuinely pissed off if Jimbo & Co don't give him a chance. Lets face it, no matter how many times we finish dead last in the NHL, we'll never get a 1st overall pick. This is the closest we'll ever get with the old boys club in charge making sure we never draft top 3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Gagner is a waste of a roster spot...better off seeing how Yak does with Goldobin and Boucher. He too could be a waste of a roster spot, but he is a higher reward than Gagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pete M said: Gagner is a waste of a roster spot...better off seeing how Yak does with Goldobin and Boucher. He too could be a waste of a roster spot, but he is a higher reward than Gagner. Waste of a spot? Sam's 50 points would have put him tied with Hank as our second leading scorer, only surpassed by Bo. While I don't want him either, to say a team who placed 2nd last in scoring would be wasting a spot on a 50 point player is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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