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[Rumour] Nail Yakupov has interest signing with Canucks


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1 minute ago, kloubek said:

This.  He has reasonable skating ability, and his top speed is actually quite good.  It is just that he doesn't always play that hard which makes it look like he doesn't have good speed.

But you hit the Nail on the head - he just can't think the game quick enough.  In fact, I feel he is like Virtanen with an even better skillset but less size.  Without that hockey IQ and the ability to anticipate the play, opportunities just don't present themselves as frequently.

It is a fair enough comment when fans suggest a player did not get a fair enough shot in another org. Not only was Yakky turfed from the Oilers by two different administrations there but then he moved on to St. Louis where Hitchcock sat him and then another group refused to extend him. To me that is 4 NHL org opinions that decided to pass on him. I consider statements that he wants to play in Van a joke as he likely realizes his opportunities are fading. He would likely sign anywhere. 

 

A positive in my mind that as tough as it has been for him in the NHL he has never quit and returned to Russia. That should count for smething. 

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7 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

It is a fair enough comment when fans suggest a player did not get a fair enough shot in another org. Not only was Yakky turfed from the Oilers by two different administrations there but then he moved on to St. Louis where Hitchcock sat him and then another group refused to extend him. To me that is 4 NHL org opinions that decided to pass on him. I consider statements that he wants to play in Van a joke as he likely realizes his opportunities are fading. He would likely sign anywhere. 

Oh, he's certainly had his fair shot.  Let's face it - the Oilers were banking on him to be a first line player when drafted, and he had full opportunity to make a splash there.

I think it is highly unlikely he will find a way to be relevant in this league, but I still think he has enough skill to warrant yet another chance on a low-cost, 1-year contract.

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1 minute ago, hammertime said:

I'd take a flyer on him he's more skilled than Bae the reward of Yak putting it together is very high and the risk is low sign him for a one year show me deal. Maybe he and Goldy click

We already have Goldy.  I don't see those two on a successful line.  

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13 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I'd take a flyer on him he's more skilled than Bae the reward of Yak putting it together is very high and the risk is low sign him for a one year show me deal. Maybe he and Goldy click

He would be a good risk to take a flyer on at the right price.

worst case scenario we finish 29 th again an fluke out with lottery this is where his value would a  intrinsic.measured in what he does not do

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3 hours ago, kloubek said:

Oh, he's certainly had his fair shot.  Let's face it - the Oilers were banking on him to be a first line player when drafted, and he had full opportunity to make a splash there.

I think it is highly unlikely he will find a way to be relevant in this league, but I still think he has enough skill to warrant yet another chance on a low-cost, 1-year contract.

Doesn't he have a trailing CAP hit? If it was a clean 1 yr deal where he could be flipped into the TDL or simply let go at season end it might be a consideration. The other issue not discussed is his locker room reception. Have heard rumors that he was not well regarded. No detail. 

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11 hours ago, Mattrek said:

 

You may have missed the part of reports where multiple NHL teams have called his agent, but don't let reality blind your agenda.

LOL, my "agenda"?    Yup, I am against any team signing Yakupov as it is a full-time job for me.   Look, the point I was trying to make was just because Benning doesn't sign him does not signify a bad management decision for Canucks irrespective of how many teams are interested.   I personally think he would be a low risk signing and have said so a couple of times as long as price is low enough but I also feel that he is a bit of a "meh" signing.   My issue was with someone pointing out that IF Benning doesn't sign him it is a sign of "failure of Canuck management" to which I responded that "how on earth is not signing someone who has been given up on by two teams and has their career on a thin rope somehow a failure for your management team?" to which you claim is an agenda.

 

Uh, ok.   Anyway, on topic, he is a talented player who still has little clue to what his team's end of the ice sheet looks like.   He labours to catch up to plays (perhaps why he does not back check) and seems to play with a bit of "I deserve better than to be checked" attitude on the ice which seemingly may impact his compete level.

 

If any of that is an "agenda", I will confess to such but it was a hidden agenda and so well hidden I had not a clue I had it.   :lol:

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4 hours ago, Jester13 said:

 

Sure, let's stick to the office analogy... true story: My wife is right now being offered multiple jobs with a handful of offices. She is deciding between which office is the best fit for her because she has the luxury of doing so. She has said no to one in particular because the place is outdated and not taken care of, which says a lot about the place and how the owner takes care of their company and where their values are at. She is going to instead accept a position with the place that has new equipment and a good attitude and culture towards customer and employee care. The moral of the story is you don't have to accept a job just because it's available and it used to be the best company around when it opened; especially when there are better places to work.

Analogy only works if your wife was the top person in her field the year she first entered the market place yet fell from grace from that first job quickly and blamed her co-workers for her lot in life.   Then when let go from that first job she landed a second job with a better company but crashed even harder and instead of moving companies this time, she was simply let go under an industry wide consensus for being a bit lazy, maybe not as skilled as once thought and certainly having her motivation questioned.  To that situation, not sure your wife would get to choose locations even if people are kicking the tires given the early promise shown in her career and serious doubt the decision will be fully, if at all, in her hands.   Many companies may look out of interest but would also be VERY leery and would only take her on a lot less pay then even her first job right out of training and even then on a very short leash.

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6 hours ago, hammertime said:

I'd take a flyer on him he's more skilled than Bae the reward of Yak putting it together is very high and the risk is low sign him for a one year show me deal. Maybe he and Goldy click

At the same time, both Chaput and Megna outscored him last year.   Just looking at his basic stats make him look awfully peripheral and his advanced stats are even worse.  I am actually in the camp of "sure, take a flyer for a show me million on a one plus option" but have little hope he will ever learn how to play effectively away from the puck or hunger enough to go get it in the first place.   If Canucks were looking for players for a skills completion then sign him immediately.   

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3 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Analogy only works if your wife was the top person in her field the year she first entered the market place yet fell from grace from that first job quickly and blamed her co-workers for her lot in life.   Then when let go from that first job she landed a second job with a better company but crashed even harder and instead of moving companies this time, she was simply let go under an industry wide consensus for being a bit lazy, maybe not as skilled as once thought and certainly having her motivation questioned.  To that situation, not sure your wife would get to choose locations even if people are kicking the tires given the early promise shown in her career and serious doubt the decision will be fully, if at all, in her hands.   Many companies may look out of interest but would also be VERY leery and would only take her on a lot less pay then even her first job right out of training and even then on a very short leash.

You have the analogy backwards. Yak is the office, the nucks are the employee.

 

Edit: sorry but I had to minus you to bring your +1 back to even, since you did make an error in misinterpreting the analogy :P

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2 minutes ago, Jester13 said:

You have the analogy backwards. Yak is the office, the nucks are the employee.

I thought Yak was the wife, the office was Benning and the voices were done by Seth McFarlane.   I had it all wrong I guess.

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1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said:

At the same time, both Chaput and Megna outscored him last year.   Just looking at his basic stats make him look awfully peripheral and his advanced stats are even worse.  I am actually in the camp of "sure, take a flyer for a show me million on a one plus option" but have little hope he will ever learn how to play effectively away from the puck or hunger enough to go get it in the first place.   If Canucks were looking for players for a skills completion then sign him immediately.   

and Naslund was traded for a bag of chips. Yak is an extremely skilled hockey player just because he hasn't had success yet doesn't mean he never will.

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1 hour ago, hammertime said:

and Naslund was traded for a bag of chips. Yak is an extremely skilled hockey player just because he hasn't had success yet doesn't mean he never will.

While I agree he is skilled, he cannot play defense and I hope for his sake he starts to understand that or his career will be a short one.

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