Bur14Kes17 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Disclaimer: This is the one thread I never thought I'd ever start. Hypothetically speaking. If Vegas cannot find a trading partner to offload Sbisa too, he will go on waivers and yes, Canucks can claim him. Will they claim him? Should they claim him? Both sides have their merit. I would rather claim Sbisa then sign Carl Alzner.. If Benning claims Sbisa, does this re ignite the Trade Tanev movement? Lou Lamerello and Leafs were chasing hard after Hamonic who fetched a 1st and two 2nd round picks from the Flames. With Methot and Hamonic now off the market and the Leafs looking for exactly that type of D man, one can easily make the argument for claiming Sbisa off waivers (I agree he serves pizzas, but he also knows our system and IS physical) as Tanev value may have just jumped in the eyes of Toronto. Is claiming Sbisa worth a 1st and two 2nds from Toronto in exchange for Tanev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyoNami Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'd be all for claiming Sbisa, he definitely improved last season and looked to be really solid. However, claiming him, for me, doesn't necessarily make Tanev expendable. He brings a lot to the table and getting rid of him only makes our already thin blue line thinner. If it's the right deal, make it. But if it's not, no need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'd say at this point in our situation if you can turn an undrafted defensive defenseman into a first and two second round picks your doing well for yourself in terms of asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Alberta teams have overpaid for a number of D-men: Reinhart Hamilton Larson Hamonic Still don't know if it means we'd hit the jackpot for Tanev. Look at the song for which Dallas got Methot. Looks to me that Cdn teams get screwed more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 = no 2 = no 3 = no Benning should NOT place a claim, Benning will NOT place a claim anyways. Tanev has zero to do with Sbisa on the roster or not. Tanev wont be traded, as a fan I think he should have been dealt if the return would have been a 1st or solid prospect with 2nd or something of that range. My reasoning is Tanev may not hold the value he has now as we move forward. That said he wasn't dealt I doubt they'd consider it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bur14Kes17 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Alberta teams have overpaid for a number of D-men: Reinhart Hamilton Larson Hamonic Still don't know if it means we'd hit the jackpot for Tanev. Look at the song for which Dallas got Methot. Looks to me that Cdn teams get screwed more often than not. Vegas was also in a different position then the Canucks with Methot in fact they were basically in the same position with him that Gillis was with Luongo and Schneider where everyone knew Vancouver had to deal away a goalie so the bids were low. Vegas was dealing from a position of weakness. But ya, im still not sure other teams view Tanev as being equal to Hamonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 hahahaha....JB says he can't trade Tanev cause we lose Sbisa....but then won't claim Sbisa if he goes on waivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Assuming #3 means that if Sbisa claimed by the Canucks, should Benning feel free to trade Tanev? No. As I see the plan, this won't happen. Benning isn't doing the scorched earth thing because he wants to develop the players he bringing in. And even the most impatient fan MUST be able to see that the prospect pool (and I mean anybody 25 or under) is getting much better. About Sbisa, as long as he doesn't play above his level he is fine. That's what Willie was able to do most of last year and was unable to do the year before. If he's bottom pair, that's ok. He is paid a lot for a bottom pair guy but we know what we're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 What is the waiver picking order post July 1st and into the first part of the season? Is it reverse finish with Vancouver having second dibs on all waiver activity for at least a few months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I would take Spisa back. Without him and tryamkin our dcore got quite thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahyoung Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 picks as described is terrific value for Tanev. Especially next year's draft being strong. Its so much I doubt Toronto would do it, but if they do, I'd make the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 wait a second, why would they put him on waiver and loses him for nothing? they will trade him for picks, 3rd, 4th 5th, whatever, they will never ever put him on waiver , stop dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, sxqhfeh said: wait a second, why would they put him on waiver and loses him for nothing? they will trade him for picks, 3rd, 4th 5th, whatever, they will never ever put him on waiver , stop dreaming using that logic no one would get put on waivers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 jim could hardly contain himself at the prospect of getting to remodel the defence without making any hard decisions. sbisa will stay gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Trade Tanev either way if those are 2018 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Lots of teams would bite on a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Sbisa so I doubt he goes on waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, cdubuya said: using that logic no one would get put on waivers... one get put on waivers because they cant even get trade or picks, but Sbisa man, they expansion drafted him, they think he is the best choice among our Canucks players, who would throw him on waivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, sxqhfeh said: one get put on waivers because they cant even get trade or picks, but Sbisa man, they expansion drafted him, they think he is the best choice among our Canucks players, who would throw him on waivers so what.... maybe that says more about our team than it does Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 if that happen , I bet any team before Canuck will pick him up and then trade for picks, Vegas is so stupid to do that, they will get pick for their own, so stop this non sense topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: What is the waiver picking order post July 1st and into the first part of the season? Is it reverse finish with Vancouver having second dibs on all waiver activity for at least a few months? Yes, Vancouver would get the 2nd shot after Colorado. Looks like Vegas gets third shot. Waiver Priority Order: Vegas will be placed in between the 2nd and 3rd to last place Clubs in the Waiver Priority Order from today's date until October 31, 2017, inclusive (although Waiver Claims by Vegas can only be made with respect to otherwise eligible Players). https://www.nhl.com/goldenknights/news/rules-and-regulations-for-team-transactions-announced/c-287270046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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