IBatch Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 20 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: Threats of offer sheets could open trade doors without causing a ton of animosity. Offer sheets I can remember, Carolina - Federov 25 mil, Philly - Kesler 1.75 mil, Vancouver - Backes 2.5 mil, St Louis - Bernier 2.5 mil, Edmonton - Penner 4.25 mil, Edmonton - O'Rielly 5 mil. Threatened, TO - Boston - Kessel..... They just don't happen very often, Burke should have been fined for all the bad press he created over the Penner deal, he really re-inforced the unwritten rule. Lots of talk of offer sheets but what if Horvat gets one? Is the team prepared to pay 10 mil over 6 years? Not that he will get that much but...... Would you offer 10 mill to Draisaitl for eight years? That would pry him out of EDM given they can't afford to pay two players 23.25 mill ( no team can, just ask Kane how happy he's about losing his line mate Panarin, which made me laugh given its his fault they did)... Drasaitl was EDM best player in the playoffs...but also benifits with a lot of time with on McDavids line too so not sure exactly what he's worth on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 13 hours ago, IBatch said: Would you offer 10 mill to Draisaitl for eight years? That would pry him out of EDM given they can't afford to pay two players 23.25 mill ( no team can, just ask Kane how happy he's about losing his line mate Panarin, which made me laugh given its his fault they did)... Drasaitl was EDM best player in the playoffs...but also benifits with a lot of time with on McDavids line too so not sure exactly what he's worth on his own. Offer him 14.75/the max, mil for 2/3 years, couldn't do 8 years anyway. Matching would screw up Edmonton's cap for a decade, besides it would just be a threat to pry a young top 3 prospect out of them or even get them to the trade table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeydownUnder Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 3 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: Offer him 14.75/the max, mil for 2/3 years, couldn't do 8 years anyway. Matching would screw up Edmonton's cap for a decade, besides it would just be a threat to pry a young top 3 prospect out of them or even get them to the trade table. If drai accepts that offer there's a chance edmonton doesn't match. In that case Vancouver just gave up 4 first round picks that are all likely going to be fairly early in the draft. Then they can turn around and make a fairly high offer on Horvat. We accept it but end up paying more for Horvat than we would of had to. Then when the Drai contract is over they can offer on him again as he'll be an rfa. That would kill our rebuild and turn us into a bubble team. Or he doesn't accept the offer from the Canucks. Then the Oilers sign him for less dollars at a 7 or 8 year term like he probably wants. Then Oilers offer more on Horvat anyway and we still end up paying more for him than we should of had to. Terrible idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Nucks have just over 8.5 mil in cap space so Draisaitl won't happen and nor is this the thread to discuss Draisaitl. Arvidsson could still work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeydownUnder Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 4 hours ago, canuckmen84 said: Nucks have just over 8.5 mil in cap space so Draisaitl won't happen and nor is this the thread to discuss Draisaitl. Arvidsson could still work... I'm not really a fan of offer sheets in general but Arvidsson could work. $5,888,961 to $7,851,948 is a first, second, and third round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 12 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: Offer him 14.75/the max, mil for 2/3 years, couldn't do 8 years anyway. Matching would screw up Edmonton's cap for a decade, besides it would just be a threat to pry a young top 3 prospect out of them or even get them to the trade table. Oh yeah it would have to be seven years. That would sure screw up EDMs plans. Burke should get EDM back for the offer sheet on Penner and actually do this. It would ignite the stale but soon to be re-ignited battle of Alberta anyways with both teams on the upswing. Benning is too entrenched in well behaved GMing I can't see him actually doing this...well at least until Horvat and Boesser and perhaps a couple other guys are signed long term so they won't get offer sheeted right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 5 hours ago, HockeydownUnder said: I'm not really a fan of offer sheets in general but Arvidsson could work. $5,888,961 to $7,851,948 is a first, second, and third round pick It would be worth it for Arvidsson IMO. I'm not really a fan of offer sheets either but i like to ponder the idea . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Why would we offer sheet Johansen when he's going to sign a bridge deal and then sign with us in two seasons to end our rebuild??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 43 minutes ago, TheHitman said: Why would we offer sheet Johansen when he's going to sign a bridge deal and then sign with us in two seasons to end our rebuild??? Lol high hopes eh. That's a lot of predictions ....bridge deal....sign with us in 2 years....end our rebuild?...if you say so. If he ends our rebuild (according to you) then we should offer sheet him now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, canuckmen84 said: Lol high hopes eh. That's a lot of predictions ....bridge deal....sign with us in 2 years....end our rebuild?...if you say so. If he ends our rebuild (according to you) then we should offer sheet him now . Need those picks we would give up in the offer sheet to draft some more prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 minute ago, TheHitman said: Need those picks we would give up in the offer sheet to draft some more prospects. Agreed. But in the case of Arvidsson we wouldn't be losing much...1st 2nd and 3rd. To me for a player like Arvidsson would be worth at least that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, canuckmen84 said: Agreed. But in the case of Arvidsson we wouldn't be losing much...1st 2nd and 3rd. To me for a player like Arvidsson would be worth at least that. Arvidsson doesn't help us at all. He can't operate without protection around him and we don't have those pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 minute ago, TheHitman said: Arvidsson doesn't help us at all. He can't operate without protection around him and we don't have those pieces. 30 goal scoring 24yo up and coming stud doesn't help us just because we don't have goons on our team? That's beyond ridiculous . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, canuckmen84 said: 30 goal scoring 24yo up and coming stud doesn't help us just because we don't have goons on our team? That's beyond ridiculous . He's also 5'9 and a disappointment in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 minute ago, TheHitman said: He's also 5'9 and a disappointment in the playoffs. He's a great player . What do you think of our our latest draft pick Palmu ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, canuckmen84 said: He's a great player . What do you think of our our latest draft pick Palmu ? Great pick but we've got a lot of small skill players, going to be hard for him to replace those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheHitman said: Great pick but we've got a lot of small skill players, going to be hard for him to replace those guys. All we need is Guddy and Dorsett haha I do agree we need some muscle. Gadjovich will help in that i hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 On 6/30/2017 at 8:58 AM, TheGuardian_ said: Threats of offer sheets could open trade doors without causing a ton of animosity. Offer sheets I can remember, Carolina - Federov 25 mil, Philly - Kesler 1.75 mil, Vancouver - Backes 2.5 mil, St Louis - Bernier 2.5 mil, Edmonton - Penner 4.25 mil, Edmonton - O'Rielly 5 mil. Threatened, TO - Boston - Kessel..... They just don't happen very often, Burke should have been fined for all the bad press he created over the Penner deal, he really re-inforced the unwritten rule. Lots of talk of offer sheets but what if Horvat gets one? Is the team prepared to pay 10 mil over 6 years? Not that he will get that much but...... You mean 10 million per year over 6 years...right? I think 10 million over six years for Horvat (just over 1.6 per year) would be a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'd be looking to offer sheet Parayko - 2 years @ $3.9. You'd think that they'd match that, but it'd put them in a pretty big bind this time next year. They'd be 10 players short of a full roster with only 18 million in cap room - and probably looking at spending most of that on Fabbri and Stastny... Plus, we'd get Parayko for a 2nd, and would be in a position to trade Gudbranson or Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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