combover Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, oldnews said: LOL - tank nation still/already moping..... Lol- fans over valuing the addition of 4/5 dman (sbisa replacement) a depth dman(Larsen replacement) And two bottom six forwards ...plan the parade. Looooooool. minus miller the reason we won. Minus tryamkin a reason to watch. Yeah I'm sure we're now a " playoff" "competative" "win now" team with "foundational" "age gap" player producing a "winning environment" Biggest change was benhind the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Really nice deal. All 5 contracts are really good deals actually. I'm still hoping we sign Yakupov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Claiborne55 said: Gagner has a career year in a contract year...over $9 million for three year... we will regret this by Christmas.. just like so many contracts from Benning. Or maybe you're being a dramatist - and haven't actually looked at reality. "Career year" of 50 pts - for a player that has averaged 47 points per 82 games over his career - which includes 9 seasons where he's scored at better than a 40pt pace. Cool story though. 47 pt player over 700 games - and he's not worth 3 milllion. CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Claiborne55 said: Gagner has a career year in a contract year...over $9 million for three year... we will regret this by Christmas.. just like so many contracts from Benning. We have arguably 1 bad contract on the team signed by JB and that is LE. If we get 15ish goals from Gagner and 40 pts would that be bad value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I think we made out great today. 3 million is nothing guys.... and 3 years ain't that long. Some of y'all need to lighten up. This is half the term and value of the Eriksson signing and he may well be a more productive player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, combover said: Minus a reason to watch. no one cares if you watch or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: What level of hockey do you or have you played? I am going to guess irrespective of your answer that if I run a St Louis drill but with scrum for breakout that you don't come out of the corner with any of Dorsett, Gaunce, either Sedin, Boeser and the list keeps going. You seem to confuse "soft" with something else. Are you sure you watch hockey? OMG, you're right. I'm not as good at hockey as the Sedins. I guess I must not know anything about toughness??? That makes so much sense. I guess next time some guy runs over our small forwards we need to remind him not to go into any corners with Gaunce. Why did you only reply to this part of my post and not the part where you were proven wrong about team size? You can at least admit you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: You misinterpret my point. If this team, with the signings that have been made today, is tiny/soft/weak, and is likely to be beaten up/run over by the rest of the conference, then how can this team make a significant jump in the standings? It should still be a cellar dweller. You're right that it should be, but if it's not it probably would be because of the small offensive vets that were just signed. That's what Ray Ferraro was saying, should be concentrating on rebuilding and sneaking up the standings because of short term free agents is counterproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, Claiborne55 said: Benning doesn't look smart... he just has a big check book.... just like overpaying for Miller $6 Million a year... now Miller he is getting 2. Benning overpays on every FA he signs. lol. If you don't overpay, no one wants to come here. We are not a contender. So in your opinion, in order to not overpay for the FA, Benning should go into the season without signing any player that can help improve the offence? Basically keep the team status quo from last year? You want the team to start the season with 20 game losing streak? All the other teams are making changes to improve their roster, if we don't do anything, we are basically going to end up icing the very AHL team that we iced towards the end of last season. I'm sure the owners are going to love Benning if he ices an AHL team when he has the green light to spend to the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 BEAUTIFUL! Wake up(middle of night) in Japan to Christmas in July! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, oldnews said: no one cares if you watch or not. Wow. Good one Comic book guy. Lol. You even had to edit what I said ......weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Not a bad add, could be a decent top-6 scoring depth option. He's also still youngish. Sven - Bo - Brock Twins - Granny Goldie - Gagner - Loui Gaunce - Sutter - Dorsett(?) //Rodin Eddie - Stecher Hutton - Tanev MDZ - Guddy //Wiercioch/ Subban/ Pedan Marky Nilsson On paper that's not bad, just hope that if the group just isn't ready to contend that they wouldn't become a pretender. Could use all the high picks we can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, Beary Sweet said: We have Dorsett, LaBate, Stecher, Guddy and few more who play a physical, yet defensive game and score points too once in a while. Gagner may not be physical but he gets it done on the scoresheet and that's all you can ask for along with playing a 200' game which he has accomplished over his career The smallest team in hockey lost our (arguably) two most physical players (Tryamkin, Sbisa) with a couple of small offensive players... and you name 5'10" 190lb Stetcher as an answer to physicality. My .. god.. I mean, if you had your mind made up about team toughness already then I guess there's no changing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 52 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Well NJ finished 25th and picked first overall so finishing in the mid 20's isn't bad anymore. These moves let the kids develop while still keeping us in the top 5 at best top 10 at worst. With Benning's ability to find gems I'm not worried. NJ only gets the first over all in the first round, the other rounds are based on last years standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claiborne55 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, oldnews said: Or maybe you're being a dramatist - and haven't actually looked at reality. "Career year" of 50 pts - for a player that has averaged 47 points per 82 games over his career - which includes 9 seasons where he's scored at better than a 40pt pace. Cool story though. 47 pt player over 700 games - and he's not worth 3 milllion. CDC. Who else was even in the running for Gagner... yes we overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Claiborne55 said: Who else was even in the running for Gagner... Apparently 9 or 10 other teams. He wanted back in Canada and may have left money and term on table to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, soshified said: Last year Benning brought in Loui to a massive deal in an attempt to ignite the Sedins and turn the ship around slightly. He then followed it by signing minor guys like Chaput and Megna... This year he brought in stop gap guys to all short terms and all under 3mil. Who are all in their mid 20's to provide a support for the youth. Instead of having someone like Goldobin playing with Chaput. He can potentially play with Ganger now. Isn't that better? Vancouver isn't doing this to hopefully make the playoffs. Or else they would have tried to land big FA like Alzner or Shattenkirk.. They're doing this to help the youth, who aren't ready. We seen how McCann and Virtanen planned out. The only examples you can say who really panned out by rushing into the league was Horvat and maybe Stetcher/Hutton. (Boeser still needs work imo). A prime example of letting the prospect develop in the AHL is Goldobin. Through history, you seen how Vancouver always have a big list of injuries. The prospects will get their chance. And if they do, they will play with a better support system instead of relying on minor league depth guys like Chaput. People keep saying add toughness and size. But in today's NHL, that doesn't matter anymore. It's all about skill and speed. We have toughness and size in Gudbranson and everyone here seem to complain about him. (Hell if you wanna complain about size, we added a 6'5 Weircoch (sp?) today) Canucks tried to sign Alzner. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/van170627.html https://thecanuckway.com/2017/06/27/vancouver-canucks-free-agency-rumours-yakupov-weal-alzner/ http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agents-rumours-weal-canucks-signing-shattenkirk-brendan-smith-alzner-emelin-daley-montreal-tampa-dallas-coyotes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: You're right that it should be, but if it's not it probably would be because of the small offensive vets that were just signed. That's what Ray Ferraro was saying, should be concentrating on rebuilding and sneaking up the standings because of short term free agents is counterproductive. What isn't counterproductive is landing a playmaking center to feed our young, skilled wingers, allowing them the opportunity to reach their offensive ceilings. What also isn't counterproductive is flipping these players who have all been signed to very affordable contracts for picks/prospects somewhere down the line. What also isn't counterproductive is signing mid level players to affordable contracts to insulate the lineup, negating the need to rush prospects that aren't ready into the lineup ala Virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Good stop gap. Im happy about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claiborne55 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Apparently 9 or 10 other teams. He wanted back in Canada and may have left money and term on table to make it happen. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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