Sygvard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Hate to burst your bubble, but Garrison already has 50% of his cap retained by Montreal. The footnote wasn't carried over from when you claimed him. Our apologies. The NHL CBA allows for EACH team in a chain of player ownership to retain up to 50% of (their acquired) salary on the player, even if the overall retain results in the final team getting him for 25% of his overall value. A good example is Dubnyk in 2014: Jan 15, 2014: Dubnyk was traded from Edmonton to Nashville. Edmonton retained 50% of his salary, or $1.75M of the $3.5M total. March 5, 2014: Dubnyk was traded from Nashville to Montreal. Nashville retained 25% of his salary (which applies to the original total). Therefore, the Predators retained $0.875M Unless we have special rules in this league that ignore that portion of CBA and retains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvery Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sygvard said: The NHL CBA allows for EACH team in a chain of player ownership to retain up to 50% of (their acquired) salary on the player, even if the overall retain results in the final team getting him for 25% of his overall value. A good example is Dubnyk in 2014: Jan 15, 2014: Dubnyk was traded from Edmonton to Nashville. Edmonton retained 50% of his salary, or $1.75M of the $3.5M total. March 5, 2014: Dubnyk was traded from Nashville to Montreal. Nashville retained 25% of his salary (which applies to the original total). Therefore, the Predators retained $0.875M Unless we have special rules in this league that ignore that portion of CBA and retains? That would open the door to a wholllllle lot of additional 50% retaining.... I'm glad it's a question for our office's Legal Guide Brotherhood-Trio for Quandries (or the LGBTQ, as we like to call it for short) @Master Mind, @Captain Azzy, and @thejazz97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relyt Krets Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, somethingvery said: That would open the door to a wholllllle lot of additional 50% retaining.... I'm glad it's a question for our office's Legal Guide Brotherhood-Trio for Quandries (or the LGBTQ, as we like to call it for short) @Master Mind, @Captain Azzy, and @thejazz97. To be honest, and this is just my opinion... I think we should keep it as is. We already allow more retaining then most other things and leagues. I think once a guy's contract is already retained at 50% total then that's the maximum allowable retention. So a team can still retain 25% and another team and retain another 25%. But I think 50% should be Max. If that makes sense. Again this is just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 If you guys think some teams are abusing the retention rules (myself included), you haven’t seen anything yet, if we can start retaining above 50% of the original contact. Keep it it how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relyt Krets Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: If you guys think some teams are abusing the retention rules (myself included), you haven’t seen anything yet, if we can start retaining above 50% of the original contact. Keep it it how it is. Worded much better... ignore my post read this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygvard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Fair points! I can accept that as practical for both balance and mod sanity. Plenty of areas where we already don't follow the CBA, so it is entirely reasonable to have more. Apologies for starting a kerfuffle. In which case, he is available for 2.3M. Which is more than affordable for a 3.9ppg player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: If you guys think some teams are abusing the retention rules (myself included), you haven’t seen anything yet, if we can start retaining above 50% of the original contact. Keep it it how it is. Agreed. As a team that is using cap space as an asset, the rules are already favorable enough. RL NHL only allows 3 retainments at one time so chain retainments would be quite rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestito'sHandMadeVodka Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Does this put a damper on my plan to build an empire off offering to retain 10% of any transaction put through me in return for picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 We've been using 50% on initial salaries as a max to be retained. Another one of our special rules, for our special GMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Anyone know if the cap is remaining the same or increasing in for next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvery Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, 70seven said: Anyone know if the cap is remaining the same or increasing in for next season? I heard it was supposed to go up to $80 million but I don't think anythings official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestito'sHandMadeVodka Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, somethingvery said: I heard it was supposed to go up to $80 million but I don't think anythings official? Yeah they never confirm this stuff until partway through the offseason. But Vegas doing well fast has been good for projections. A lot of it will depends on how the Canadian dollar does against the American. Another problem is that 80 million dollar estimate assumes players use the escalator-they have lately, hence the small cap rise with steady revenues. But this has had the result of raising escrow, which the players hate. So they might decline to use the escalator, to get escrow under control. All that is to say-its almost certainly going up. You can bet on a 2-3 million dollar raise pretty safely. There's a decent chance it goes up 5 to 80, but take 80 with some caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvery Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 16/01/2018 at 12:33 AM, somethingvery said: Ottawa Places Jiri Hudler and Casey Bailey on waivers. Jiri Hudler and Casey Bailey have cleared waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 To VGK: Thomas Hickey To ARZ: 2018 NYR 4th + 2018 CBJ 5th + 2019 ARZ 5th + 2019 LAK 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, somethingvery said: Jiri Hudler and Casey Bailey have cleared waivers. @Art Vandelay needs the LA Kings lawyer who got Mike Richards contract annulled? Remind me to party with Jiri but keep him off my hockey teams, and flight attendants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: @Art Vandelay needs the LA Kings lawyer who got Mike Richards contract annulled? Remind me to party with Jiri but keep him off my hockey teams, and flight attendants... I need that lawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Is fantrax working for everyone else? When I go to the site, it's just a grey screen with nothing to click on. This, plus CDC notifications not working, is becoming quite the headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Master Mind said: Is fantrax working for everyone else? When I go to the site, it's just a grey screen with nothing to click on. This, plus CDC notifications not working, is becoming quite the headache. Fantrax is fine for me, as are CDC notifications. Maybe the internet is paying you back for all those weird searches you've been doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Tuukka Rask; 13-0-2 in his last 15 games. Decided to give him a rest today on back to back game nights. We'll see how that works out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygvard Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Master Mind said: Is fantrax working for everyone else? When I go to the site, it's just a grey screen with nothing to click on. This, plus CDC notifications not working, is becoming quite the headache. Fantrax is fine, but my notifications continue to be broken in the same way as yours. Hovering around 30 unread notifications now, with no way to check any of them. Apologies if I seem to be slightly less active until it is sorted out; I can no longer tell when the thread updates or anyone responds to my stuff. I have sent a couple messages to the IT side and posted on the bugs thread, but no real response yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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