Where's Wellwood Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The number of medals the US will win in 2028 will be sickening. It's a good thing both cities have most of their facilities already built. http://m.torontosun.com/2017/09/13/ioc-announces-hosts-for-2024-and-2028-olympic-games-in-first-double-gold-ever Quote LIMA, Peru — This was one of those rare Olympic moments where everyone walked away a winner. Paris for 2024. Los Angeles for 2028. And the International Olympic Committee for transforming an unruly bidding process to lock down its future by choosing not one, but two Summer Olympics hosts at the same time. The IOC put the rubber stamp on a pre-determined conclusion Wednesday, giving Paris the 2024 Games and LA the 2028 Games in a history-making vote. The decision marks the first time the IOC has granted two Summer Olympics at once. It came after a year’s worth of scrambling by IOC president Thomas Bach, who had only the two bidders left for the original prize, 2024, and couldn’t bear to see either lose. Both cities will host their third Olympics. The Paris Games will come on the 100th anniversary of its last turn — a milestone that would have made the French capital the sentimental favourite had only 2024 been up for grabs. Los Angeles moved to 2028, and those Olympics will halt a stretch of 32 years without a Summer Games in the United States. In exchange for the compromise, LA will grab an extra $300 million or more that could help offset the uncertainties that lie ahead over an 11-year wait instead of seven. Congratulations to @Paris2024 and @LA2028#IOCSession #Lima #Olympics @OlympicChannelpic.twitter.com/etlauX5kIY— IOC MEDIA (@iocmedia) September 13, 2017 Doing away with the dramatic flair that has accompanied these events in years past, there were no secret ballots and no dramatic reveals to close out the voting. Bach simply asked for a show of hands from the audience, and when dozens shot up from the audience, and nobody raised their hand when he asked for objections, this was deemed a unanimous decision. A ceremony that has long sparked parties in the plazas of winning cities — and crying in those of the losers — produced more muted, but still visible, shows of emotion. Paris bid organizer Tony Estaguent choked up during the presentation before the vote. “You can’t imagine what this means to us. To all of us. It’s so strong,” he said.Watch the full IOC announcement ceremony here Later, Paris mayor Anne Hidalgo stood by Bach’s side and dabbed away tears as the vote was announced and the IOC president handed the traditional — but now unneeded — cards to she and LA mayor Eric Garcetti. One read “Paris 2024,’ and the other ”Los Angeles 2028.“ But there was no real drama. As if to accentuate that, the LA delegation wore sneakers to the presentation. Bid chairman Casey Wasserman said the footwear “reflects who we are, and the unique brand of California-cool that we will bring to the 2028 Games.” Bach asked the 94 IOC members to allow the real contests to play out at the Olympics themselves and turn the vote into a pure business decision — not a bad idea considering the news still seeping out about a bid scandal involving a Brazilian IOC member’s alleged vote-selling to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio de Janeiro. More than that, Bach needed to ensure stability for his brand.#ANousLesJeux La #France accueillera les Jeux #Paris2024 WE DID IT – will host the 2024 #Olympic and #Paralympic Games #WeAre24pic.twitter.com/HOp5bgeG5E— Paris 2024 (@Paris2024) September 13, 2017 The public in many cities, especially those in the Western democracies that have hosted the majority of these games, is no longer eager to approve blank checks for bid committees and governments that have to come up with the millions simply to bid for the Olympics, then billions more to stage them if they win. That reality hit hard when three of the original five bidders for 2024 — Rome, Hamburg, Germany, and Budapest, Hungary — dropped out, and the U.S. Olympic Committee had to pull the plug on its initial candidate, Boston, due to lack of public support. “This is a solution to an awkward problem,” said longtime IOC member Dick Pound of Canada. “Many of the (candidate) cities are not prepared. They say, ‘Let’s have an Olympics,’ but they haven’t done the background work, checked the finances. But I guess we have to share it and say, ‘Have you done A, B, C, and D?”’ Only two candidates made it to the finish line — Paris and Los Angeles, each with a storied tradition of Olympic hosting and an apparent understanding of Bach’s much-touted reform package, known as Agenda 2020. It seeks to streamline the Games, most notably by eliminating billion-dollar stadiums and infrastructure projects that have been underused, if used at all, once the Olympics leave town. It's official The IOC just announced Los Angeles will be the host city of the 2028 Olympic & Paralympic Games! #FollowTheSun pic.twitter.com/DBlccQK3Kx— LA 2028 (@LA2028) September 13, 2017 Can they deliver? Paris will have the traditional seven-year time frame to answer that. Only one totally new venue is planned — a swimming and diving arena to be built near the Stade de France, which will serve as the Olympic stadium. Roland Garros, which will host tennis and boxing, will get a privately funded expansion. In all, the projected cost of new venues and upgrades to others is $892 million. To be sure, Paris already has much to work with. Beach volleyball will be played near the Eiffel Tower; cycling will finish at the Arc de Triomphe; equestrian will be held at the Chateau de Versailles. And what would an Olympics be without some water-quality issues? There will be pressure to clean up the River Seine, which is where open-water and triathlon will be held. Los Angeles, meanwhile, will get an extra four years, though the city claims it doesn’t need them. All the sports venues are built, save the under-construction stadium for the NFL’s Rams and Chargers, which will host opening ceremonies. Los Angeles proposed a $5.3 billion budget for 2024 (to be adjusted for 2028) that included infrastructure, operational costs — everything. A big number, indeed, though it must be put into perspective: Earlier this summer, organizers in Tokyo estimated their cost for the 2020 Games at $12.6 billion. The London Games in 2012 came in at $19 billion. Traffic could be a problem — it almost always is in LA — but the city will be well along multi-decade, multibillion-dollar transit upgrade by 2028, and those with long memories recall free-flowing highways the last time the Olympics came to town, as locals either left the city or heeded warnings to use public transportation or stay home. Those 1984 Games essentially saved the Olympic movement after a decade of terror, red ink and a boycott sullied the brand and made hosting a burden. The city points to its Olympic legacy to explain a nearly unheard-of 83 per cent approval rating in a self-commissioned poll — not an insignificant factor when the IOC picks a place to hold its crown-jewel event. Along with Paris, LA is stepping in again to try to change the conversation about what hosting the Olympics can really be. “It’s a unique opportunity to do two at the same time,” Wasserman said. “Hopefully, it’s an interesting paradigm for the world going forward. We’re two great cities, it’s two great Olympic hosts and it’s going to be two great games.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I wonder how Paris will deal with the terrorism issue for the Olympics. They'll probably literally have a squad of soldiers every couple of blocks or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, Lancaster said: I wonder how Paris will deal with the terrorism issue for the Olympics. They'll probably literally have a squad of soldiers every couple of blocks or something. By that time Isis will no longer be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 23 hours ago, Where's Wellwood said: The number of medals the US will win in 2028 will be sickening. Maybe by then the technology will finally advance far enough to figure out how they got away with all that doping Spoiler Beaver tranquilizers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 2:05 PM, Where's Wellwood said: The number of medals the US will win in 2028 will be sickening. If it's anything like the 1984 Olympics in LA, nobody will even get close to the US in the medal count... muahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I guess it makes sense to use former hosts, as a lot of the infrastructure is already in place, but there are a lot of major world cities that have never hosted: New York, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, San Francisco/Oakland, Toronto, Buenos Aires, Madrid, Kiev, Warsaw, Vienna, Zurich, Brussels, Milan, Istanbul, Dubai, New Delhi, Mumbai, Shanghai, Brisbane, Auckland.... There are even some interesting African cities: Cairo, Algiers, Lagos, Kinshasa, Cape Town..... The 2026 Winter games are still to be determined. What does everyone think about a return to Calgary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 14/09/2017 at 0:03 PM, Rubik said: By that time Isis will no longer be a problem. Yeah, something even worse will take its place and population of conservative Muslims world wide will have risen by a quarter million too by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 2017-09-14 at 11:19 AM, Lancaster said: I wonder how Paris will deal with the terrorism issue for the Olympics. They'll probably literally have a squad of soldiers every couple of blocks or something. Just as much as London did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 2017-09-17 at 9:47 AM, SabreFan1 said: If it's anything like the 1984 Olympics in LA, nobody will even get close to the US in the medal count... muahahaha! Just like America ran the table in the 1980 Summer Games right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Just like America ran the table in the 1980 Summer Games right? The USA boycotted the 1980 Olympic Games after the USSR ignored Jimmy Carter. *edit* I have a feeling you're talking about the Eastern Bloc boycott 4 years later in LA. It won't matter in 2028, back in the Soviet era even the small nations in the Soviet's sphere of influence had excellent athletes because living in poverty and oppression many turned to athletics. Look at Romania as proof. It's much easier now for the US to win medals at the Olympics than it was even back then. With Russia getting busted for their state sponsored cheating, it may be all the more easy by 2028. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 7:22 AM, RUPERTKBD said: The 2026 Winter games are still to be determined. What does everyone think about a return to Calgary? They better get their stadium issue sorted, or maybe that would be the impetus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 9/20/2017 at 7:22 AM, RUPERTKBD said: I guess it makes sense to use former hosts, as a lot of the infrastructure is already in place, but there are a lot of major world cities that have never hosted: New York, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, San Francisco/Oakland, Toronto, Buenos Aires, Madrid, Kiev, Warsaw, Vienna, Zurich, Brussels, Milan, Istanbul, Dubai, New Delhi, Mumbai, Shanghai, Brisbane, Auckland.... There are even some interesting African cities: Cairo, Algiers, Lagos, Kinshasa, Cape Town..... The 2026 Winter games are still to be determined. What does everyone think about a return to Calgary? I think the problem with San Francisco is that if they're going to have it there, I'm pretty certain they will be using LA for other events which makes them hosting an Olympics irrelevant. Easier to just call it as LA hosting the Olympics and have other major cities within the LA area in Southern California house a couple of events here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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