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7 minutes ago, TheHitman said:

I think he's probably Montreal's 4th best defensemen if we're talking about the current situation. 

But Montreal has a glut of waiver eligible D already. And it's about to become an even bigger issue when Schlemko gets activated off IR. Mete has been very good. So he's not coming out. So in the top 4 you've got Weber, Mete, Petry.   That leaves Benn, Schlemko, Davidson , Streit, Morrow. Who all require waivers. For 3 spots. 

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1 minute ago, qwijibo said:

But Montreal has a glut of waiver eligible D already. And it's about to become an even bigger issue when Schlemko gets activated off IR. Mete has been very good. So he's not coming out. So in the top 4 you've got Weber, Mete, Petry.   That leaves Benn, Schlemko, Davidson , Streit, Morrow. Who all require waivers. For 3 spots. 

Weber-Petry
Alzner-Hutton 
Mete-Benn 
Schlemko

IMO. Try to trade Davidson and Morrow and put the others on waivers. Outside of Weber, Petry, and Alzner I don't think they have enough guys who will be good in future years. Having both Mete and Hutton would give them a decent set-up for the future. Then again, you're probably right they've got way too many waiver-eligible guys. 

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10 minutes ago, TheHitman said:

Weber-Petry
Alzner-Hutton 
Mete-Benn 
Schlemko

IMO. Try to trade Davidson and Morrow and put the others on waivers. Outside of Weber, Petry, and Alzner I don't think they have enough guys who will be good in future years. Having both Mete and Hutton would give them a decent set-up for the future. Then again, you're probably right they've got way too many waiver-eligible guys. 

Mete is playing top pairing with Weber. And I totally forgot about Alzner. lol. So top four is Mete Weber

Alzner Petry. 

(Weber and Petry play the same side.  You never see them paired up) 

That leaves a crapload of guys to fill 5-7 

 

they also still have  Juulsen who should be knocking on the door next season. 

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IMO, because we are rebuilding team, Hutton's value is greater to our Roster than it is on the open market.  However, I think he has good trade value, he's young, he's putting up decent numbers, he has a decent contract for this season and next and is an RFA after that.  I think it is legit to think we could make a package with Hutton for a forward with good talent.  I don't think he will be traded straight across for any start player though, and I think adding Baertschi adds no value to the trade.  I'm not hating on Baertschi, but he hasn't broken out yet and he is on the last year of a contract, he is a gamble for another GM.  He is an RFA though, so if he takes the next step this season, he'll get a raise and perhaps his trade value will go up.  I hope we keep Hutton for sure.

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54 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

Speaking as a Montreal fan.  I do t really see where he would fit given their current roster.  That's not a slight on Hutton. I just don't see who he replaces. 

If MTL does anything about their D, I assume it will be for a top 4 LD? They don't need another LD competing for a bottom pairing job

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1 minute ago, shazzam said:

If MTL does anything about their D, I assume it will be for a top 4 LD? They don't need another LD competing for a bottom pairing job

yup, typo, My post was supposed to say I don't see where he fits in Montreal.  Honestly Montreal needs to find a way to put pucks in the net

 

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1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

How about move Edler, or Vanek first?

The Edler talks have been ongoing for years and everybody speaks to his NTC. I agree he is the guy who holds more value in a trade but he holds the cards.

 

I also understand Hutton does not hold high value, but he does have value and pairing that with Baertschi plus could net us something decent

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22 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

Lol. So just to reinforce my point about having too many waiver eligible D. This just came up on my twitter feed. 

 

Source: Canadiens trying to trade defenceman Mark Streit.

sprtsnt.ca/2hCikxW (@EricEngels)

Just like Vegas want to move their older unvaluable or overpaid D men too eh. Good thing for Hutton is his age, cap hit is ok and upside is better than an old vet

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14 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Tryamkin walks. Sbisa taken by Vegas. Juolevi not looking anywhere close to NHL ready yet.

 

Let's trade Ben Hutton!

 

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We do have 8 d currently on our roster, plus some depth in Utica. No stand outs down their but someone could surprise. The reason to trading Hutton is trying to package him in a deal for a proper winger for Horvat or an all around upgrade to our top 6

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Just now, Yotes said:

Just like Vegas want to move their older unvaluable or overpaid D men too eh. Good thing for Hutton is his age, cap hit is ok and upside is better than an old vet

For sure, I suspect they'll need to put him on waivers to make room for Schlemko coming off IR, that doesn't change the fact that Montreal will still have too many waiver eligible D and aren't a great fir for a Hutton trade

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Just now, qwijibo said:

For sure, I suspect they'll need to put him on waivers to make room for Schlemko coming off IR, that doesn't change the fact that Montreal will still have too many waiver eligible D and aren't a great fir for a Hutton trade

Potentially you are correct, it was another poster who brought up Gally as another trade target. Teams can always make room if they believe they are making an upgrade

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4 minutes ago, Yotes said:

Potentially you are correct, it was another poster who brought up Gally as another trade target. Teams can always make room if they believe they are making an upgrade

I just don't think they'd see Hutton as a huge upgrade on anyone in their top 4. If Chucky  is moved, you'd have to think it will be in a move to improve their offence, which is far and away their biggest concern right now

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Well the first thing that struck me is why are they playing him with Stecher?  Maybe alter the pairings a bit and let's see what happens or else get ready for a whole lot of Eriksson + Hutton + 2nd for.....::D

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3 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

I just don't think they'd see Hutton as a huge upgrade on anyone in their top 4. If Chucky  is moved, you'd have to think it will be in a move to improve their offence, which is far and away their biggest concern right now

Why don't the Hab's package Chucky for Duchene.  MTL does have that extra 2nd this year. 

 

Yak has had a decent start and him and alex have a proven connection.  I know the av's have been said to want young D, but they have quite a few young D in their system now,

Zadorov, Mironov, Bigras, Lindholm, Barrie is only 26 and they just drafted Makar and Timmins this year. 

 

Duchene would help with offense, personally I like drouin better on the wing.

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2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Why don't the Hab's package Chucky for Duchene.  MTL does have that extra 2nd this year. 

 

Yak has had a decent start and him and alex have a proven connection.  I know the av's have been said to want young D, but they have quite a few young D in their system now,

Zadorov, Mironov, Bigras, Lindholm, Barrie is only 26 and they just drafted Makar and Timmins this year. 

 

Duchene would help with offense, personally I like drouin better on the wing.

Thast would absolutely make the most sense. The problem is that Sakic seems to think Duchene is worth way more.  Kypreos reported earlier this summer that Sakic wanted Galchenyuk, Segachev and a 1st for Duchene. 

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