MattJVD Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Is it really a goaly controversy if we went into the season knowing we had two 1b guys and they would be competing for starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Did hockeygod77 change his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Ride the hot hand til they falter. Right now, Nilsson's GAA is 0 and his save pct is 1.000, so I say he gets next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 As completely expected, turned on the radio this morning and literally within 5 seconds Dave Scatt had already uttered the word "controversy". At least 650 was discussing Nilsson's game without drama dumpster-diving. These guys are such predictable trolls and agitators, and as usual that impressional segment of the fanbase just gobbles up any poop they throw out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Read in another thread two posters @Quantum @captainhorvat suggest Neilsson likely signed here because he knows he's better than Markstrom. Neilsson will be our starter soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Give Markstrom the Boston game to show faith in him. Give Nilsson the back to back game in Buffalo who surely will be motivated to play against his former team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfudru Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Both are good goalies. Green needs to play whichever guy is on a hot steak and roll with a balanced tandem throughout the season. Our guys also need to score more goals and we'll have a better chance at winning games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainLinden16 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I remember when Markstrom let in his first 3 shots in his first start with the Canucks. He did similar things with Florida. You can see he is more athletic and agile in the net, but he has mental issues without question. If we ever get back to the playoffs, I hope he isn't in net. He is a talented goalie who can't handle pressure in the slightest. Nilsson was excellent in Edmonton and Buffalo. He reminds me a lot of Loungo. Not saying he is as good. He doesn't do well on breakaways or going side to side. The more shots the better, PK, traffic in front of the net all things he excels at. Edmonton played an aggressive offensive game when he played for them. They really played opposite of his strengths. Too many odd man rushes. This is exactly the type of goalie we need right now. I could easily see Nilsson pulling a Loungo and getting this team into the 8th seed stopping 35 shots per night with our team pinned in its own zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Marky is still our starting goalie, but Green should reward Nilsson for his play and give him the next start (its back to back I believe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Toni Zamboni said: it wouldnt be Vancouver without a goalie controversy. Right. And let's end it the way we did with Luongo/Schneider ... trade both of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, CaptainLinden16 said: I remember when Markstrom let in his first 3 shots in his first start with the Canucks. He did similar things with Florida. You can see he is more athletic and agile in the net, but he has mental issues without question. If we ever get back to the playoffs, I hope he isn't in net. He is a talented goalie who can't handle pressure in the slightest. Nilsson was excellent in Edmonton and Buffalo. He reminds me a lot of Loungo. Not saying he is as good. He doesn't do well on breakaways or going side to side. The more shots the better, PK, traffic in front of the net all things he excels at. Edmonton played an aggressive offensive game when he played for them. They really played opposite of his strengths. Too many odd man rushes. This is exactly the type of goalie we need right now. I could easily see Nilsson pulling a Loungo and getting this team into the 8th seed stopping 35 shots per night with our team pinned in its own zone. What you noted on JM is true, & hopefully something he can 'get over'..if that's even possible for a 'tender? He also went a lil' wonky in the world jr's gold final, didn't he? At any rate, really like our tandem & gt prospects at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said: Marky is still our starting goalie, but Green should reward Nilsson for his play and give him the next start (its back to back I believe) I don't really think it matters much who starts. If he goes with Markstrom, it shows him that the Canucks believe in him despite being outplayed last game by Nilsson. If he goes with Nilsson, it rewards him for his great play but it might make Markstrom lose confidence in himself. Pros and cons to each. If I was coach, I'd go with Markstrom. Only because he was previously told he was starting the season as the #1 and I believe in being true to your word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainLinden16 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: What you noted on JM is true, & hopefully something he can 'get over'..if that's even possible for a 'tender? He also went a lil' wonky in the world jr's gold final, didn't he? At any rate, really like our tandem & gt prospects at this point in time. He is 27 at this point how much more investing are we going to do into Markstrom and getting his head right. We have been ultra patient with him. Babying him the whole way with old man Miller easing him into the league. This should've been his net two years ago. I say we trade him to Philly for one of their surplus young D. hahahaha I wish...A bag of pucks and some lemonade from Utica maybe a fairer deal. I know I am being overly harsh, but how many chances can someone get? It doesn't matter that he settles in after the first shot that inevitably goes in. It would be just bad luck if it happens one or twice, but he has done this like 10 times in his career. This speaks to some pretty serious mental deficiencies. You can't trust a goalie like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 They both start games. End of thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Rocksterh8 said: They both start games. End of thread. who starts (percentage wise) more games? Continue thread:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Im glad Nilsson pitched a shutout but but I dont know if he had a great game. Some of his rebound control was off, but he didnt let anything squeak by him which in the end is what matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The other 2 Canuck goalies to post shutouts in their first game. Mike Fountain and Johan Hedberg. It means next to nothing. In 2014-15 Andrew Hammond won 20 games out of 24 in his first year with Ottawa. He has only played 30 nhl game since then and is currently in the AHL. We want long term sustained excellence from a goalie. These two have possibilities and with Demko and Dipietro in the hopper, we are looking very good in goal. Fans should just sit back and relax and let the coaches decide and enjoy the game. They want to win as much as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooby Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 As others have said ride the hot hand. Nilsson was great last night, but it is only one game. The other way to split it up could be team scouting dependent. For example with a team that has a high percentage of perimeter shots I'd put in Nilsson. Marky has a habit of letting one of those go in. Though Nilssons strengths and weakness as a Canucks goalie behind a Canucks defense still remains to be seen with a larger sample of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I like that nillson is ice cold and has poise to keep a levelhead unlike..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 11 hours ago, kloubek said: I think it is fine to have a "controversy" when you are dealing with two goalies who have essentially only proven themselves to be decent backups. I think signing Nilsson was a great move by Benning, as it provides a clear path for either one of them to take on the #1 position and pushes both to be better. This is not at all a situation like before where we are holding two elite goalies, with one being the historical #1 and the other being an elite up and comer. As to which is the better goalie: I believe Markstrom has more to prove. In his best season he sported a .915 and 2.73 whereas Nilsson's last season he managed .923 and 2.67. I personally look at percentage far more than gaa, and while Nilsson's gaa was obviously better than Markstrom's his save % was on a totally different level. If Nilsson can maintain those kinds of numbers, that's easily mid-pack #1 goalie territory. While the Canucks put faith in Markstrom by way of both his contract as well as basically gifting him the #1 position for this season, if Nilsson continues to perform at this level I think Markstrom will be hard pressed to maintain the starter job... especially if he cannot elevate his game. With this said, in his first two games Markstrom really played exceptionally well. His issue isn't and never has been his outright ability - it's been about his consistency. If you look at his games last season, there aren't a lot of average to above average games. Either he plays lights-out or he sucks. So far this season it is shaping up to look very similar. Until he finds that consistency he simply cannot and will not be a #1 goalie. Boom. Mic drop. Well said. Couldn’t agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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