Canuck Clay Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Hello fellow Canucks fans: I've been posting these videos elsewhere on CDC (both in the "Creative and Media Forum" and in my own blog) so as to not pepper/annoy you here...but I did want to share this video in particular. Are you surprised at how quickly the Sedins are being phased out? And do you think it's a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Its not like they are being phased out in the sense that they are not wanted anymore. Green isn't trying to send a message or to force the Twins to ask for a move. They're playing a lesser role. It is a necessary step as part of the team's transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Considering it's their last season it's not really that fast. The Canucks really haven't had a replacement for them in a while, the Sedins are 37 after all. Everyone likes to talk about Detroit as this great drafting team but they've yet to replace Zetterberg or Datsyuk either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 who dat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'm all for managing the twins' minutes. I don't see it as a negative thing. They were overplayed the past two seasons and the result was a drop in production during the last half of each season. And they're another year older now. I think they'd be more effective if they're kept fresh throughout the whole season. Besides, it IS a rebuild. Time to give more of their playing time to the younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Green is rolling all 4 lines fairly evenly so I wouldn't say they're getting phased out any faster than they should be, but as you can see we have no first line anymore. This was Horvat's chance to take the reins and so far he hasn't really done that, whereas Burmistrov has really surprised a lot of people and rather than loading up all our best players on one line, Green is splitting them amongst the 4 lines. We have no elite skill or talent anymore, Bo is close as is Boeser but apart from that there's not much on this team. Green knows it and he's using it to our advantage by playing all lines around the same amount of ice time per game. That includes dropping the Sedins from 18-20 minutes down to 10-15 which is where they should have been for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Though I don't entirely agree with you; phasing out started last year, should have started around 2014-15 (they would have been sooo much better with a secondary role, less pressure, less ice-time, facing 2-3rd pairing defensemen ect... although I'm aware that there was no better option back then) but I liked your video very much. You're very likeable, has a good voice, you talk nice, so good luck to you on YT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spliced Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 As someone that thought they needed to be phased out after the 2012 playoffs I don't consider this anywhere close to fast. I'm happy for what they brought to the team but I'm not gonna let nostalgia cloud the current decision making process, this is beyond overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 It's not so much that I think they are being phased out, I think the game is progressing beyond their abilities at this point. I would love to have them around for another 3 years during the transition of the newly drafted and developed players, however they seem a step behind amongst today's NHLers. They are extremely fit and do have flashes of brilliance still, but they truly do not deserve the top line minutes anymore based on their play (probably shouldn't be the first unit PP anymore either). The fact that they need to be signed together will be a detriment towards them getting new contracts. I'm not sure if they expect to play together, but I think what would help their careers is finally to be split as they both still possess great vision, but need to find other players the puck rather than just each other. Plus it's hard to play two players with their pace in today's NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, spliced said: As someone that thought they needed to be phased out after the 2012 playoffs I don't consider this anywhere close to fast. I'm happy for what they brought to the team but I'm not gonna let nostalgia cloud the current decision making process, this is beyond overdue. Not to mention that with their contracts and NMCs they never were going to be phased out until this year. It's too bad we don't have anyone biting at their marginal coattails, but Boeser is looking good so far. It's an end of an era no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 No not at all, last couple years they looked like 2nd/3rd liners at best and that said even if they are the most fit their game has slowed and they have not come up with new moves as they used to and why they are not as effective I can see then hanging the skates up at years end, maybe one more year at most after this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 it looks like Green is using them 11-12 minutes on the road, 14-16 at home. Makes a lot of sense in terms of control of match-ups and zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, TheHitman said: Considering it's their last season it's not really that fast. The Canucks really haven't had a replacement for them in a while, the Sedins are 37 after all. Everyone likes to talk about Detroit as this great drafting team but they've yet to replace Zetterberg or Datsyuk either. There's a reason why Detroit hasn't drafted the next Zetterberg or Datsyuk! Here is their last 20 years worth of 1st round picks: 2016: 20th 2015: 19th 2014: 15th 2013: 20th 2012: no pick 2011: no pick 2010: 21st 2009: no pick 2008: 30th 2007: 27th 2006: no pick 2005: 19th 2004: no pick 2003: no pick 2002: no pick 2001: no pick 2000: 29th 1999: no pick 1998: 25th 1997: no pick You have to go back another 7 drafts before they have their first top-10 pick (and that was #10 of course). It's amazing that they have been so good for so long. With picks like those, they should be far worse than us right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 With all due respect I hope they retire at seasons end. I mean have you watched them go for a loose puck? They lose that race 9/10 i dont want to watch them deteriorate into a complete liability “walk away from the game before the game walks away from you” - lidstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 The fact that their minutes are being managed means we've finally turned the corner away from relying on them until others step up. This is not only what we've been waiting for but also what the Sedins have said publicly they wanted to see. So, yes, they are indeed being phased out in a respectful and intelligent way that maximizes their remaining skill to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Virt might be the guy the Sedins need. They look good with him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I agree with most people here - it's not a 'phase out' - it's moderating their roles as younger players emerge. They're not going to be killing penalties - and they're probably not going to eat up the majority of the powerplay minutes - so combine that with tempering their 5 on 5 minutes, with more viable depth than the team has had in some time, and a commitment to being a four line, up tempo team and it simpy translates into middle six minutes for them. Not surprised at all - expected it - and the team is finally young and deep enough to make the progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 5 hours ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: There's a reason why Detroit hasn't drafted the next Zetterberg or Datsyuk! Here is their last 20 years worth of 1st round picks: 2016: 20th 2015: 19th 2014: 15th 2013: 20th 2012: no pick 2011: no pick 2010: 21st 2009: no pick 2008: 30th 2007: 27th 2006: no pick 2005: 19th 2004: no pick 2003: no pick 2002: no pick 2001: no pick 2000: 29th 1999: no pick 1998: 25th 1997: no pick You have to go back another 7 drafts before they have their first top-10 pick (and that was #10 of course). It's amazing that they have been so good for so long. With picks like those, they should be far worse than us right now. They drafted Zetterberg and Datsyuk in the 6th and 7th rounds, so they could still find the next one's without the top end picks. Problem is that they were ahead of the times in drafting and now more teams have caught on making it harder to pick those late round gems before another team does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 They're still on pace for 40-50 point seasons, even with 20% less ice time. It looks good on them too. They're fresher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 https://www.nhl.com/video/d-sedin-buries-his-own-rebound/t-290865568/c-53706603 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.