Rick Blight Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bigturk8 said: Can anyone explain this too me? This seems like a finer point of cap manipulation and I don't really understand it. This is how CapFriendly explains it............. The ACSL will always be less than or (in the optimal scenario) equal to the league upper limit. The closer the ACSL is to the league upper limit, the greater the team will be able to exceed the upper limit. How is LTIR Relief calculated? LTIR relief comes in the form of two values: a salary relief pool, and a performance bonus relief pool. These pools are determined the day the player is placed on LTIR. The salary relief pool is the player’s averaged salary excluding performance bonuses (their cap hit value). The performance bonus relief is the player’s total performance bonuses for this season (games played, A and B bonuses), regardless of if they are still achievable.What if the team already has a player on LTIR? The teams ACSL remains the same, and their salary relief pool increases by the player’s cap hit, and the performance bonus relief pool increases by the player’s performance bonuses. How does a team use the base salary and performance bonus relief pools? As explained above, two pools are created when a player is placed on LTIR, a salary pool, and a performance bonus pool. If recalling a player would result in the team exceeding the ACSL, the team must have enough relief in the necessary pools. Only the players achievable performance bonuses are considered when they are recalled, for example, if a player has an 82 games played performance bonus of $500,000, and it is impossible for them to achieve those 82 games, the $500,000 performance bonus is no longer considered. https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq#ltir-relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: Comets don’t play again until Saturday. With the club back east, it’s a good idea to give Thatcher some time with the big club for a couple days. Love to see him actually play though, but seriously doubt it. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: That makes sense. I doubled up on my meds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: That makes sense. Judging by the explanation I received about the cap management, I don't think they even intend to fly him out. I think he'll just be sent down right after Edler and Eriksson are put on LTIR, and he'll never actually leave Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Why not give him a game while he is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spook007 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, tas said: when a player goes on ltir, the team gets extra capspace equal to that player's cap hit minus available cap space on the roster the day you assign him to ltir. so if the cap is $50 million but the team only has a cap number of $48 million and the players cap hit is $5 million, when the team outs that player on ltir they can spend up to $53 million (including that injured player). if you push your cap number up to $49.5 million before assigning him, you can spend up to $54.5 million. Thanks for excellent explanation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City-in-state-of-emergency Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 If you ask Canucks fans they say we have no goalie prospects we are crap we can't win I gotta go home it's my bath time.... Eddie Lack gave us Guillaume Brisebois Corey Schiender gave us Bo Horvat Roberto gave us Jacob I'm just poking a dead horse for crap and giggles but I love seeing kids like Demko in our system because it was not even 10 years ago when we had Raycroft Sanford Laberbera Sabourin Macintyre...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 52 minutes ago, Alflives said: Comets don’t play again until Saturday. With the club back east, it’s a good idea to give Thatcher some time with the big club for a couple days. Love to see him actually play though, but seriously doubt it. edit: nvm just saw Rick Dhaliwals' tweet recall only for one day. too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, City-in-state-of-emergency said: If you ask Canucks fans they say we have no goalie prospects we are crap we can't win I gotta go home it's my bath time.... Eddie Lack gave us Guillaume Brisebois Corey Schiender gave us Bo Horvat Roberto gave us Jacob I'm just poking a dead horse for crap and giggles but I love seeing kids like Demko in our system because it was not even 10 years ago when we had Raycroft Sanford Laberbera Sabourin Macintyre...... those were all just stop gap backups (both nhl and ahl) that held down the fort while schneider developed and there was no point investing in much of a backup when luongo was playing 70+ games. this guys are comparable to nilsson and bachman not demko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1.26 GAA and .960 so far this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Now why would canucks need all that cap space? Trading juolevi for duchene?! Please god no! Say it ain’t so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, billabong said: Now why would canucks need all that cap space? This is my question as well. If this is simply about numbers, then.... why? Unless something's going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: They just rewarding him with a little higher pay for a few days? They could have called up anyone to get them closer to the cap limit, but I really like the fact that they gave him the call up as a reward for his great play so far. I haven't watched any games so far this year, just highlights, but he looks to be in mid-season form already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City-in-state-of-emergency Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, tas said: those were all just stop gap backups (both nhl and ahl) that held down the fort while schneider developed and there was no point investing in much of a backup when luongo was playing 70+ games. this guys are comparable to nilsson and bachman not demko. True but after the cup run I just got tired that the new hot thing is being a Canucks fans and everyday it's win the cup or destroy the city never just enjoying where we started to quote a poet "Started from the bottom now we're here" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, billabong said: Now why would canucks need all that cap space? Trading juolevi for duchene?! Please god no! Say it ain’t so! could also be for Galchenyuk.... Im hoping Jim gets his revenge on Bergevin for that $50,000 whine fest. I wonder what the actual relief number will be once they add up Edler, Loui and Stecher? And not OJ for Chucky, Sutter though would be a deal I'd make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, City-in-state-of-emergency said: If you ask Canucks fans they say we have no goalie prospects we are crap we can't win I gotta go home it's my bath time.... Eddie Lack gave us Guillaume Brisebois Corey Schiender gave us Bo Horvat Roberto gave us Jacob I'm just poking a dead horse for crap and giggles but I love seeing kids like Demko in our system because it was not even 10 years ago when we had Raycroft Sanford Laberbera Sabourin Macintyre...... LaBarbera played well for us. So did Raycroft for that matter. I know they weren't long term investments, but I was confident when both were in net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: could also be for Galchenyuk.... Im hoping Jim gets his revenge on Bergevin for that $50,000 whine fest. I wonder what the actual relief number will be once they add up Edler, Loui and Stecher? I'm on a Montreal msg forum and that city is ready to hunt down MB and burn him at the stake. It's not even funny. The fans there are WAY worse than I've ever seen fans of this team. Galchenyuk is a serious whipping boy. He probably doesn't even know which way is up at this point. 1st line one day, demoted to the dog house the next... kid needs to get the heck out of there before he's destroyed. Would welcome him with open arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Guys, look at this. Friedman reporting that Vancouver may be in on Duchene. Juolevi listed... Quote “The feeling now is perhaps maybe Vancouver getting in the mix, and a lot of talk about Juolevi http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-colorado-avlanche-matt-duchene-vancouver-canucks-olli-juolevi-sabres/2017/10/23/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, VegasCanuck said: They just rewarding him with a little higher pay for a few days? Yes. You are right. He deserves a reward for his play. https://www.capfriendly.com/players/thatcher-demko THATCHER DEMKO Vancouver Canucks Goaltender Cap Hit: $925,000 Accumulated Daily Cap Hit: : $0 Remaining Daily Cap Hit: : $0 BORN: December 8, 1995 BIRTHPLACE: San Diego, California, United States HEIGHT: 6'4 (193 cm) WEIGHT: 194 lbs (88 kg) CATCHES:Left AGE: 21 ELC SIGNING AGE: 20 WAIVERS SIGNING AGE: 21 DRAFT YEAR: 2014 DRAFTED OVERALL: 36 DRAFT ROUND: 2 DRAFTED BY: VAN Waivers Exempt Arbitration: 3 additional pro-years required CURRENT CONTRACTS ENTRY-LEVEL CONTRACT COMPARE THIS CONTRACT LENGTH: 3 YEARS EXPIRY STATUS: RFA SIGNING TEAM: Vancouver Canucks VALUE: $8,825,000 C.H.% : 1.30 SIGNING DATE: April 20, 2016 SOURCE: CapFriendly SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2016-17 $925,000 $2,941,667 $1,350,000 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $70,000 2017-18 $925,000 $2,941,667 $1,850,000 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $70,000 2018-19 $925,000 $2,941,667 $2,850,000 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $70,000 CONTRACT NOTE: 'A' Bonuses max. earnable per season $850,000 & 'B' Bonuses max. earnable per season 2016-17: $500,000, 2017-18: $1,000,000, 2018-19: $2,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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