Kelly Green Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 i hope you're right , and i really wasn't trying to hit a nerve but i think the canucks need to keep bargain shopping players who are under performing while they are in this rebuild process. sam bennet is another player who might be had for smaller pieces imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: what about the rest of 3 under-achieving seasons? The LA game is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I don't think Green started Sutter a single shift in the o-zone. No way do I see Plekanec being able to do that at his age. Last season Montreal won the Atlantic. The season before Price was out th entire year with an injury. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. And scoring goals has been on ongoing issue. Sutter does not solve that issue. At all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: Last season Montreal won the Atlantic. The season before Price was out th entire year with an injury. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. and folded like a cheap tent. My point is they are soft down the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: and folded like a cheap tent. My point is they are soft down the middle. They couldn't put the puck in the net in the playoffs. Sutter wouldn't have changed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, qwijibo said: They couldn't put the puck in the net in the playoffs. Sutter wouldn't have changed that you don't know that. If Sutter was there to shut down the Rangers PP you don't know what would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: you don't know that. If Sutter was there to shut down the Rangers PP you don't know what would have happened. Once again. Plekanec filled the same roll as Sutter would have. And despite what you think (not know. Because you clearly don't watch many Habs games) Plekanec was and still is a effective PKer. There is no way you can convince me that having a Sutter in over Plekanec would have been the difference. Especially if you're expecting Galchenyuk in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, qwijibo said: Once again. Plekanec filled the same roll as Sutter would have. And despite what you think (not know. Because you clearly don't watch many Habs games) Plekanec was and still is a effective PKer. There is no way you can convince me that having a Sutter in over Plekanec would have been the difference. Especially if you're expecting Galchenyuk in return okie dokie. 35 year old Plekanec is better than Sutter. good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: okie dokie. 35 year old Plekanec is better than Sutter. good to know. Even if Sutter is better, he's not so much better that it will magically solve Montreal's issues with scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Even if Sutter is better, he's not so much better that it will magically solve Montreal's issues with scoring. improve that 75% PK and they won't have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: improve that 75% PK and they won't have to They already have, Look at the last 10 games ignore the first 8 and all without Sutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, qwijibo said: Not the same at all. Subban returned Weber. An all star Norris D. I didn't like the trade. But it's not like they traded Subban for a 4th line centre or a bunch of lessor pieces. No, but trading a disgruntled player who cannot crack the lineup on a regular basis and/or seems to have limited future in Montreal for a solid 3rd line centre with grit and high FO% is not an unreasonable trade concept. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: No, but trading a disgruntled player who cannot crack the lineup on a regular basis and/or seems to have limited future in Montreal for a solid 3rd line centre with grit and high FO% is not an unreasonable trade concept. Cheers Wtf are you talking about? Since when can't Galchenyuk crack the lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: Wtf are you talking about? Since when can't Galchenyuk crack the lineup? Crack the lineup in the way he was projected to - he is not playing the minutes of an important piece nor is he getting key situations. He is playing low-risk, protected minutes and still producing like a third line talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 hours ago, D-Money said: However, as for the general idea of buying low on Galchenyuk? Hell yeah. A young guy with the skill and shot to score 30 goals already? We need more skill, especially for the PP. The Hipster Dufus must know he's on thin ice, don't see him selling low unless he's desperate just to make a move thinking it'll save his job. We don't need any of the Hab's old junk that they'd want to pawn, and Galchenyuk like Granlund can't win face-offs so he's not a centre at this point. Don't really see what we'd want from them. that they'd be willing to give up, but yeah, of course Benning has "talked" with them -- he talks with every GM regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Crack the lineup in the way he was projected to - he is not playing the minutes of an important piece nor is he getting key situations. He is playing low-risk, protected minutes and still producing like a third line talent. He was near a point per game prior to his injury last season. He's had issues connecting with the new coach but seems to have gotten the messsge and is now on the top line with Drouin and playing top unit power play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobi Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Desperate gm's tend to make mistakes. Hopefully, Benning can fleece MTL for some high end prospects or high draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Galchenyuk has been to rehab, twice i think. There is no way Benning brings in a kid with substance abuse problems. Especially on a rebuilding team with lots of young kids on it. Benning couldn't get Kassian out of here quick enough. He's not bringing a problem to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Galchenyuk has been to rehab, twice i think. There is no way Benning brings in a kid with substance abuse problems. Especially on a rebuilding team with lots of young kids on it. Benning couldn't get Kassian out of here quick enough. He's not bringing a problem to this team. i was unaware of those past issues. when was his last rehab stint? recent or a few years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rush17 said: i was unaware of those past issues. when was his last rehab stint? recent or a few years ago? Not sure exactly when but usually it happens in the summer. It's completely confidential and first time thru the program player can contact the NHL, do the program and not even tell the team without any penalty. I believe the 2 nd time he has to notify his team. A couple of weeks ago former coach Tremblay said he'd gone thru the NHL substance abuse program program maybe twice. Bergevin did not confirm nor deny the story, and said it's confidential and he wouldn't talk about those things. Galchenyuk also declined to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Screw Galchenyuk!! I would be inquiring about Domi after his slowwww start on a very $&!#ty arizona team. Im sorry guys i still feel the same about Baertschi. Call me a hater or whatever. I will never feel he is the answer for LW on the the Bo & Brock line. I just dont feel Sven has that next level to his game. Hes putting up points, but if we want to win hardware in the future, i dont feel hes the guy for that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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