Ray_Cathode Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was looking at the prospect points tracker all the way down at the bottom, and noticed: If Forsling ( Gillis pick, I believe) could transfer himself and his points to Vancouver, he would be our highest scoring defenceman at 2g 5a in 17 games compared to Del Zotto at 1g and 6a in 20 games played. Apparently, he was traded for, along with a 2nd round pick, for Adam Clendenning and Brandon Sutter, in order to get rid of a guy who went on to win two Stanley Cup rings. In PPG, Jarred McCann with 2g 3a in 8 games, would be our second highest scoring C. Thankfully, Benning is better at drafting that at evaluating NHL talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 JB picked Forsling. That is probably one of, if not the worst, trade he made so far. At least he may salvage it with Holm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Sutter was in the separate Bonino trade. I believe the Forsling trade was straight up, no 2nd round pick involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Forsling also plays on a high tempo Hawks team where offence can come pretty easily when you've got Toews and Kane on the ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Circumstance, Gillis left JB with no depth and we were running into injuries if I remember correctly. Things are also easier to analyze in hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: I was looking at the prospect points tracker all the way down at the bottom, and noticed: If Forsling ( Gillis pick, I believe) could transfer himself and his points to Vancouver, he would be our highest scoring defenceman at 2g 5a in 17 games compared to Del Zotto at 1g and 6a in 20 games played. Apparently, he was traded for, along with a 2nd round pick, for Adam Clendenning and Brandon Sutter, in order to get rid of a guy who went on to win two Stanley Cup rings. In PPG, Jarred McCann with 2g 3a in 8 games, would be our second highest scoring C. Thankfully, Benning is better at drafting that at evaluating NHL talent. Canucks have 4 players scoring double digit numbers. Hawks have 9 Canucks have 5 additional players with more than 5 points. Hawks have 4. Hawks D en masse is outscoring the Canucks 43 points to 23 points. Just, you know...for reference. Without ever remembering that Forsling was small and had exactly 1 decent WJC while Clendenning was not only larger but also nearly .70 PPG average in the AHL over 3 seasons at that point in time at the same position Thankfully Benning saw a chance to improve our team like any GM would do and sold high on an unknown prospect to take a chance on a guy who didn't pan out but looked very promising. Thankfully Benning found guys like Chatfield, Brisebois etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc after almost 13 years of mediocre to absolutely abysmal drafting. Edit. I was not a Benning fan, but it takes a real downer to not see how and where he's tried to improve this team and to see where it is headed in the future. I do not foresee any chance that Forsling has 7 points as of right now on a team like the canucks over the Hawks with keith, Rutta and seabrook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 There was no pick. It was Gus for Adam straight up. 2015-Jan-29 Traded from Vancouver Canucks to Chicago Blackhawks for Adam Clendening Yes, it's not a good trade... at least Jimbo did well to draft him in the first place. Really head scratching move but you can't make the right move %100 of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: I was looking at the prospect points tracker all the way down at the bottom, and noticed: If Forsling ( Gillis pick, I believe) could transfer himself and his points to Vancouver, he would be our highest scoring defenceman at 2g 5a in 17 games compared to Del Zotto at 1g and 6a in 20 games played. Apparently, he was traded for, along with a 2nd round pick, for Adam Clendenning and Brandon Sutter, in order to get rid of a guy who went on to win two Stanley Cup rings. In PPG, Jarred McCann with 2g 3a in 8 games, would be our second highest scoring C. Thankfully, Benning is better at drafting that at evaluating NHL talent. we should have drafted kopitar. blah, blah, blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Canucks have 4 players scoring double digit numbers. Hawks have 9 Canucks have 5 additional players with more than 5 points. Hawks have 4. Hawks D en masse is outscoring the Canucks 43 points to 23 points. Just, you know...for reference. Without ever remembering that Forsling was small and had exactly 1 decent WJC while Clendenning was not only larger but also nearly .70 PPG average in the AHL over 3 seasons at that point in time at the same position Thankfully Benning saw a chance to improve our team like any GM would do and sold high on an unknown prospect to take a chance on a guy who didn't pan out but looked very promising. Thankfully Benning found guys like Chatfield, Brisebois etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc after almost 13 years of mediocre to absolutely abysmal drafting. Edit. I was not a Benning fan, but it takes a real downer to not see how and where he's tried to improve this team and to see where it is headed in the future. I do not foresee any chance that Forsling has 7 points as of right now on a team like the canucks over the Hawks with keith, Rutta and seabrook He didn't try to improve our D he tried to speed up development something that rarely works. That is what hurts the most here. And if you watch Forsling play you realize that this kid is a STUD. Just watch Chicago the kid looks so good out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Apple Juice said: Forsling also plays on a high tempo Hawks team where offence can come pretty easily when you've got Toews and Kane on the ice They're 11th in scoring and only have 10 more goals than Vancouver. It's not like he plays on the '84 Oilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, CanadianRugby said: They're 11th in scoring and only have 10 more goals than Vancouver. It's not like he plays on the '84 Oilers. His defense is what will blow you away. The kid is as good as Tanev Defensively with more offensive upside. He could turn into a number 1 dman. He will easily be a number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, peaches5 said: His defense is what will blow you away. The kid is as good as Tanev Defensively with more offensive upside. He could turn into a number 1 dman. He will easily be a number 2. I don't know about all that, I don't watch him play enough but if that's true then that sucks we got rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It was a bad trade *shrugs* Seems neither here nor there at this point. Troll thread is troll thread. Negged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, CanadianRugby said: I don't know about all that, I don't watch him play enough but if that's true then that sucks we got rid of him. Just watch Chicago play. He is so good with his stick and positioning.. As soon as Chicago announcers were like Forsling.. I was like you have to be kidding me. They were praising him all damn game long and talking how Stan Bowman is so impressed with him and his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 No tradesees just drafty drafty Jimmy mmmk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just a s**t trade in general. Forsling for a depth guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yup, that was terrible trade then looks worse now. It was good draft pick though oh well live and learn..........hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Another classic example of hindsight is 20/20. Forsling was a great pick, but he was a 5th rounder. Clendenning at the time was producing in the AHL and was thought to be a more known entity. We also needed a depth defenceman that might contribute on a Canucks roster, with the possibility of further development. It turned out that Clendenning was not that great of a skater and he was ultimately given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 A bad trade, yes but this didn't deserve a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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