D.B Cooper Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, riffraff said: What is the track record of "rehabilitation" through the incarceration system? I'm not saying it will work, or it does work. Im saying, that is where they will go, so why call it anything else? They are going to try to rehabilitate them. Dorsnt mean they ever get out of jail. Just now, riffraff said: We all wish for the best case scenario....but there is just as much chance that a criminal will become more criminal while in prison as is there the same likelihood that a religious radical will become more radicalized and able to radicalize others while in prison. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, riffraff said: What is the track record of "rehabilitation" through the incarceration system? We all wish for the best case scenario....but there is just as much chance that a criminal will become more criminal while in prison as is there the same likelihood that a religious radical will become more radicalized and able to radicalize others while in prison. not great, but neither is torture or breaking our own laws and inspiring other lone idiots. There's no good options here, just less crappy ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cerridwen said: "Pretty sure".....uh, ok....now you're the expert? Oh yes, back to the porn....where it be? ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: not great, but neither is torture or breaking our own laws and inspiring other lone idiots. There's no good options here, just less crappy ones. Pretty much that. This is one of those situations where one side of the aisle is thankful when it happens under the other's watch. Because no matter what the party in power does, they can go after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Some of the dumbest posts I've seen in a very long time. First of all, way to hijack the thread and start harping on the Canadian government. Second, honestly what's your point? Do you guys honestly not understand how the law works? We don't care about what you think the Canadian government should do because it would be illegal and you'd get a bunch of lawsuits. If you try to deny re-entry for Canadian citizens, you will get sued. If you end up actually killing someone (capital punishment is illegal), you will get sued. It's not a pretty situation. The government doesn't really have great options to work with here. But what you're suggesting is both stupid and impossible. Not only is it not stupid, it's actually the practical and appropriate response. Just because it's "the law" doesn't mean they are right. Government makes stupid rules ALL the time. Government is notorious for consisting of imbeciles thus terrible decisions like this. The only part where you're probably correct is that what I suggested would be impossible to implement for the reason I just gave, especially with Captain Cuck at the helm. You love to play social justice warrior like half this board, but if Jihad John and his rag tag group of Islamic extremists moved in next door, you're the first one hootin' and hollering. At least people as myself actually care, you won't see that from this government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 So, how many posts did it take this thread to devolve into a "Liberal vs Conservative" debacle? 8 Good job CDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Plus, joining a terrorist organization and going to war, committing crimes against humanity is in fact a crime in this country, and practically everywhere else, so don't scream like I'm the wrong because I'm not. I can't believe people are even debating this. The government is in the wrong, completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Not only is it not stupid, it's actually the practical and appropriate response. Just because it's "the law" doesn't mean they are right. Government makes stupid rules ALL the time. Government is notorious for consisting of imbeciles thus terrible decisions like this. The only part where you're probably correct is that what I suggested would be impossible to implement for the reason I just gave, especially with Captain Cuck at the helm. You love to play social justice warrior like half this board, but if Jihad John and his rag tag group of Islamic extremists moved in next door, you're the first one hootin' and hollering. At least people as myself actually care, you won't see that from this government. can you provide an example of where an approach like you are suggesting and breaking our own laws made things better? btw we are still working under the new terror laws that Harper brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, canuktravella said: ya 30 minutes ago, canuktravella said: blah blah sorry it took longer to plan 911 that nine months. im pretty sure terrorists tried bombing it a few other times maybe the cia ignored it because theyd make to much money from arms deals and military corporations making billions and billions over a few thousand american lives. Once..... the point flew well over your head....no surprise there. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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riffraff Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Pretty much that. This is one of those situations where one side of the aisle is thankful when it happens under the other's watch. Because no matter what the party in power does, they can go after it. Very true.....waiting in the weeds to point out the failure....yay politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 46 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: not great, but neither is torture or breaking our own laws and inspiring other lone idiots. There's no good options here, just less crappy ones. I don't see anyone advocating for torture....at least not in here so far. The Canadian gvt just paid out millions to a Canadian who was allowed to be tortured. While this happened, it certainly does not mean that any form of gvt or Canadian citizen is calling for the torture of anyone. secondly.....not all laws are good laws. If anything, it's times that many laws applied to many issues may need to be looked at, changed, abolished or implemented. the protection of law abiding citizens should be the number one priority of any gvt. thirdly, who is inspiring lone idiots? Certainly you're not inferring that inspiration for "mistreated" potential radicals only comes from Canadian lawyers/politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 This is another thread, where you throw a bone, and watch people fight over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Ummm I just came back here to make jokes about a-hole terrorists getting spammed with beastiality porn. That's pretty funny stuff really. But it looks like a few jacka§§es took the fun out of it by being ignorant butt wipes and I just don't feel like making jokes about auto-erotic-asphyxiation anymore. Neo-cons suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, luckylager said: Ummm I just came back here to make jokes about a-hole terrorists getting spammed with beastiality porn. That's pretty funny stuff really. But it looks like a few jacka§§es took the fun out of it by being ignorant butt wipes and I just don't feel like making jokes about auto-erotic-asphyxiation anymore. Neo-cons suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 hours ago, canuktravella said: i dont care about your opinion liberals are the reason 911 happened they let their guard down. Watchin next two yrs these isis fighters will kill canadians and you bleeding heart liberals will line up for their rights so pathetic. And yes I dont like cops because they power trip and dont protect the public if anything they harass our basic freedoms and screw regular people over making their month traffic quotas. Cop mentally is th db guys in highschool that werent important now being given power and a gun which leads to misuse of power. Just like to point out Bush was in power during 9/11. He was a conservative But thanks for coming out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, canuktravella said: blah blah sorry it took longer to plan 911 that nine months. im pretty sure terrorists tried bombing it a few other times maybe the cia ignored it because theyd make to much money from arms deals and military corporations making billions and billions over a few thousand american lives. So we have gone from Isis being fought with porn To liberals are bad To it wasn't Bush's fault To it was a government conspiracy Back to omg we are killing turrists cause 9/11 So the door to salvation is about 12 steps over that way. Put down the sauce son. You sound more dumb than you might actually be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: So we have gone from Isis being fought with porn To liberals are bad To it wasn't Bush's fault To it was a government conspiracy Back to omg we are killing turrists cause 9/11 So the door to salvation is about 12 steps over that way. Put down the sauce son. You sound more dumb than you might actually be It is fairly telling that the only time I've seen @canuktravella post something intelligible is when he copy/pasted the Meow Mix jingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Alflives said: The old philosophy of "divide and conquer"? A student of Roman history too! Where do you find the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Probably a lot of Mia Khalifa and hijab porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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