Alflives Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Sens are looking pretty rough, if they continue to trend down they'll have to seriously consider moving him. They'd miss him for sure, but the assets they could bring in for a player of his caliber would be something else. He's not looking great right now though. He’s a coming UFA, who said he will sign where he’s paid the most. Unless a team is certain they are able to sign him, why would they give up assets for him? And even the, why not just wait for July 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 IF the Sens were determined to keep the guy, should we take back one of their lousy contracts(Pha9/Ryan), with the condition that Chabot is thrown in? That guy & OJ & we'd have 2 beauts for the LH-D. Maybe Tanev & Try on the right side, some day? We throw in a contract(or two) that expires soon(like Gagner), so they'd have plenty of space to re-sign EK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: He’s a coming UFA, who said he will sign where he’s paid the most. Unless a team is certain they are able to sign him, why would they give up assets for him? And even the, why not just wait for July 1st? You know that's 2019, Alf? Acquire him soon, & you have 2 PO-runs with the guy at a 6.5 mill cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Nuxfanabroad said: You know that's 2019, Alf? Acquire him soon, & you have 2 PO-runs with the guy at a 6.5 mill cap hit. He’d cost WAY TOO MANY assets for my liking. Maybe a team like the Rangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Alflives said: He’d cost WAY TOO MANY assets for my liking. Maybe a team like the Rangers? As I'd posted, see Dallas making a lot of sense. Man, this franchise has squandered some primo assets, while hanging on to some barkin Daigs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: He’s a coming UFA, who said he will sign where he’s paid the most. Unless a team is certain they are able to sign him, why would they give up assets for him? And even the, why not just wait for July 1st? If a team were to trade for him soon they'd get a year and a half of 6.5M Erik Karlsson, or two playoff runs with a guy who's shown he can be the offensive engine for a team. If they Sens were to open up shop there'd most certainly be a number of teams who would take a good hard look at trading for him, teams will do questionable things to try and put themselves over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: If a team were to trade for him soon they'd get a year and a half of 6.5M Erik Karlsson, or two playoff runs with a guy who's shown he can be the offensive engine for a team. If they Sens were to open up shop there'd most certainly be a number of teams who would take a good hard look at trading for him, teams will do questionable things to try and put themselves over the hump. Like the Sens just did to get Duchene? Just so long as we don’t do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: If a team were to trade for him soon they'd get a year and a half of 6.5M Erik Karlsson, or two playoff runs with a guy who's shown he can be the offensive engine for a team. If they Sens were to open up shop there'd most certainly be a number of teams who would take a good hard look at trading for him, teams will do questionable things to try and put themselves over the hump. Absolutely man..heck, they could sweeten the pot, by retaining a % or taking back some cap hit. If they really helped a contender, you'd have to assume they'd land at least 5 great young assets. Then demand perhaps ANOTHER 1st R if he re-signs, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Like the Sens just did to get Duchene? Just so long as we don’t do it. I dunno, I interpret them getting Duchene as getting an asset they can control beyond this season because they didn't think they'd be able to afford retaining Turris? If they were to flip Karlsson for assets I'm sure they could likely do the same with Duchene at next season's deadline? Or even this deadline if they're worried about his value dropping? Would certainly help expedite a rebuild! 8 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Absolutely man..heck, they could sweeten the pot, by retaining a % or taking back some cap hit. If they really helped a contender, you'd have to assume they'd land at least 5 great young assets. Then demand perhaps ANOTHER 1st R if he re-signs, etc... Retaining would definitely be the way they go, at that point they're just paying cash for additional assets. I'm not sure Ottawa's penny pinching owner would go for it but it'd be the best case scenario for a Karlsson move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I dunno, I interpret them getting Duchene as getting an asset they can control beyond this season because they didn't think they'd be able to afford retaining Turris? If they were to flip Karlsson for assets I'm sure they could likely do the same with Duchene at next season's deadline? Would certainly help expedite a rebuild! Retaining would definitely be the way they go, at that point they're just paying cash for additional assets. I'm not sure Ottawa's penny pinching owner would go for it but it'd be the best case scenario for a Karlsson move! Say a deal with the Ducks, for example(God forbid!) OTT: Karlsson & Ben Harpur(big LH D-man) ANA: Cam Fowler, signed 8 yrs x 6.5 mill(this yr he's 4 mill, ending contract) Brandon Montour Sam Steel Nick Ritchie 2018 1st round pick 3 guys from Ontario, 1 from Alberta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2020 could get really interesting if Doughty, Karlsson and OEL make it to UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Say a deal with the Ducks, for example(God forbid!) OTT: Karlsson & Ben Harpur(big LH D-man) ANA: Cam Fowler, signed 8 yrs x 6.5 mill(this yr he's 4 mill, ending contract) Brandon Montour Sam Steel Nick Ritchie 2018 1st round pick 3 guys from Ontario, 1 from Alberta. Honestly, they'd be super dangerous with him and that'd be a pretty good package. I'll be surprised if the Sens don't try to make a move sooner or later, I just can't see them ponying up the dough he's gonna want. What a problem to have though, a player like that isn't something many teams unearth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Edmonton should jump in the ring here: Leon + PoolParty + for EK + Anderson Edmonton gets 2 years of EK + CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Arguably one of the best 3 players in the world, he doesn't have to show loyalty to anyone. Karlsson deserves top dollar and a legitimate Cup chance, not sub-10M by a bunch of cheapskate owners on a team that's forever on the fringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 18 hours ago, shazzam said: 2020 could get really interesting if Doughty, Karlsson and OEL make it to UFA The Leafs will sign them all because they'll all take discounts to play in the center of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 If in the Ott GM's shoes, I'd try to get this done by TDL. Just be a huge distraction going into next yr. Him goin media-savvy with DaterapeDoughty is a WMD in the desert. Apparently EK has a 10 team NTC. Yesterday Winn laid a shellacking on them. Get 5 or 6 pieces, & build a young, complete team like them Jets! Lucky they(bottom 10) protected that 2018 1st to the Avs. These Sens will lay eggs like hens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuxfanabroad Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 Friedman saying he was asked for his 10 team list? Hmm..could get interesting. Melnyk doesn't like his public comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 He should come to Vancouver and sign a 7 year 9 million deal. That's all I have to say about that... Be a man Erik. Come play for a team who has always loved Swedes. I think the Trio of Erik, Edler and Patterson could probably combine for 200 power play points on our team annually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 1:03 PM, DownUndaCanuck said: Arguably one of the best 3 players in the world, he doesn't have to show loyalty to anyone. Karlsson deserves top dollar and a legitimate Cup chance, not sub-10M by a bunch of cheapskate owners on a team that's forever on the fringe. Please explain how they are cheapskate owners... are they not right near the salary cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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