riffraff Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Not sure about Jack Adams, but I do think his has been a positive change for our team. My only concern is that he does tend to push the team hard. They say even the practices are exhausting. I hope he isn't draining too much out of them - and his 4-line style helps in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Willie just wanted to win. I really believe that. He played certain players over others because he felt they would not cost him. Face it, other than Willies first year, his line up was pretty thin. On Linden Vey, Willie had a previous relationship with Vey. He was one of his go to guys in Medicine Hat and based on his record in Manchester, he should have done well in the NHL. Obviously, he's one of the guys who do well in the AHL and have difficulty making the leap to the NHL. Willie gave him a long rope to begin with but after a couple of months, cut back his ice time. There was a lot of hot air coming out of CDC at the time about Vey and most of it imo ignored that Vey did get his ice time cut back. He was cut loose by Benning during Willies tenure. Megna was one of the players who Willie could put in most situations and he would do ok defensively. He could skate and he could check. Not much else. Don't get me wrong, I have made posts to the effect that he should not be an NHL player. If things go right, we won't see him in Van again. But if you have a kid who's going to throw the odd puck into the slot because he doesn't know what else to do with it or a guy like Megna who will eat the puck, Willie will take Megna. Team depth is much better this year and I'm sure it will be even better next year. Megna will not be re-signed if things go right. I think we're going to see about 4-5 guys currently on the 50 man roster not get qualifying offers next offseason to make room for Gaudette and hopefully Pettersson, and maybe a couple of surprises too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 46 minutes ago, kloubek said: Not sure about Jack Adams, but I do think his has been a positive change for our team. My only concern is that he does tend to push the team hard. They say even the practices are exhausting. I hope he isn't draining too much out of them - and his 4-line style helps in that regard. I actually like he is keeping them all super fit... If they start to tire out, I think it may be changed, but for now... get on or get left behind... like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 18 hours ago, Toni Zamboni said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 hours ago, alfstonker said: Are you another one too short sighted to realise these are two different rosters in personnel and experience. Willie got to the SC playoffs in his first season - have you forgotten that? I suggest you fall asleep because you just might have the attention span of budgie. Oh hi Willy's mom, sorry this is such a touchy subject for you. Now to make things easier on your fragile heart, JB and TL think Willy was a real good coach, just not real good enough for the NHL. I happen to agree with them. Our playoff appearance in WD's rookie season was one of the saddest series I've even watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, luckylager said: Oh hi Willy's mom, sorry this is such a touchy subject for you. Now to make things easier on your fragile heart, JB and TL think Willy was a real good coach, just not real good enough for the NHL. I happen to agree with them. Our playoff appearance in WD's rookie season was one of the saddest series I've even watched. Also the path to the playoffs was really sad as well. Canucks got insanely lucky in OT and Shootout that year (I think they won 11/18 games that went past 60 mins). Compare that to LA that year who finished 6 points behind the Canucks but won only 3/18 games in ot or shootout. Canucks also lead the league in empty netters that year padding their goals for totals. Basically, canucks rode the high scoring offence of the Sedins and Vrbata to the last 10 minutes of games, then hoped to either score and empty netter or win in OT/Shootout. Since that was one of the lowest scoring years since the ‘05 lockout AND they were in the weakest division in the NHL at the time, they were able to get away with it and make the playoffs. That season is pretty much unrepeatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I like the uptempo style this team has played with this year. Overall I think Green has done very well. Un an 82 game schedule I guess we'll see how things go down the stretch run, February to April. This team has been very bad in those months on non-playoff years so hopefully Green will keep things competitive down the stretch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wasn't too long ago (last few years), when this team was counted out, spiraling down, coached by Willie who gave all of the top line minutes to the Sedins, and extra time to Vey and Megna. Jake was undisciplined, Tryamkin was unhappy and bolted back to Russia. Management refused to use the word "rebuild" and the direction of the team was confusing. But now Eriksson is finally showing he's worth the money, Vanek and Del Zotto have been excellent UFA signings, Jake has grown up, Boeser is having an incredible rookie season, the Sedins have been relegated to lesser minutes and getting easier matchups, the goaltending has been very competitive and solid and all of the players are playing like a team under Green. I wouldn't be surprised if more NHL players (UFAs) see what the Canucks are building, how they're playing under Green, the exciting prospects coming up the ranks. VAN will become a desirable place to play again and I can see Kane signing here in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 All depends on how he goes down the stretch and whether the team makes the playoffs or not. So far he's done admirably but the season is still very young and a lot can change. I've been very impressed by how he adapts to different teams, different players and different styles on the fly. That is the stuff of a good playoff coach and those are the coaches that win Championships - the ones that aren't rigid (eg. AV, WD) but can adapt to their opponent. Think of Quinneville and Babcock, they're geniuses and their teams get better during a 7 game playoff series because they can adapt and beat their opponent over time. That's what I think Green will be capable of one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 My honest take: I think Green is doing well. I love this young team blended with the right veterans. I don't think this rebuild is as painful as some people, so I poke a lot of fun at certain things. I love the Vanek signing and he is not too long for this team, but he has done exactly what we hoped. Boeser is a stud and Horvat continues to develop into Kesler v2.0. I like all four lines and as sad as it was to see Dorsett's career abruptly end, there is so much optimism going forward. Bring on Demko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I think Boeser in the end was just who we needed to come in. That being said, I haven't noticed a lot of people complaining about Green on CDC yet so that has to stand for something. lol I'm sure time will tell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 10 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: I think we're going to see about 4-5 guys currently on the 50 man roster not get qualifying offers next offseason to make room for Gaudette and hopefully Pettersson, and maybe a couple of surprises too. You're talking about Megna? I totally agree with you. Any players on expiring contracts may not be renewed. That's exactly why they were offered only 1 year contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: You're talking about Megna? I totally agree with you. Any players on expiring contracts may not be renewed. That's exactly why they were offered only 1 year contracts. I could see any one of these guys not getting one: Molino Chaput Sautner Megna Cederholm Cassels Subban and Boucher will likely receive QA's but we also might lose them to waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I could see any one of these guys not getting one: Molino Chaput Sautner Megna Cederholm Cassels Subban and Boucher will likely receive QA's but we also might lose them to waivers. Want to see Holm get a good look at some point. I don't see him coming back if he doesn't have a future here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo fan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 So far he is worth every damn dollar he's being paid. He has this team playing an entertaining fast paced game Time will tell just how good he is but certainly am liking what he has offered up so far. Team responds well under him, he appears to have a good rep;ore with the players Provides good information to the media when I am sure some days he would like to tell them where to go All in all; he gets an A from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I like Green's line scrambling. He has a good feel for guys' limitations, but more importantly, strengths. He laid down the law early with Sedin ice time, something fans have been screaming about for years. He has done a superb job in getting Nilsson into games, while keeping Markstrom the still clear #1. I am looking forward to seeing if he can get Gaunce going, and whether or not he can motivate the FA's to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Too early to provide a poll response but he seems to have his players ready each game (check), he seems to be clearly aware of the players who are still on their development path (check), he seems to have a deaf ear to the media (check) and he seems to have a plan to dictate the style of each game versus letting the other team dictate (check). Those are four important boxes to have checked if you are a rookie NHL coach barely a 1/3 way into your first season. Test for him will be not so much to maintain any given point total/pace - that is not the aim for this season - but to keep a competitive atmosphere and allow those who need to grow that ability to grow (including using tough love) and to figure out what pieces make sense to keep moving forward over the next few seasons and advice management as to those thoughts in a way that is listened to so he can make this "his team" as right now, it isn't fully yet as he inherited pretty much all of it and only tweaked the roster for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyezone Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I like the line scrambling also. He puts mental pressure on players to play honest and if a guy starts to slip, they could find themselves further down the lineup next shift/game/period. And, conversely, Greener will give a player who is 'feelin it' an opportunity to see more ice. It's a great system for a young player to jump queue and advance in. I'm referring to the Goldy injection on the top line and the Sven reassignment to the Vanek line that has been going on for the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainKool Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 The only thing I dont like about Green is the development of Virtanen. Im not coach, but at least I do believe Virtanen deserves some 3v3 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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