J-Dizzle Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Bo53 said: Imagine the reaction of all the leafs fans if Boeser got 40 goals in his rookie year right after Matthews did it... I love to hate the leafs If Brock hits 40 with Bo and Baer missing the time they’re missing.... oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 16 hours ago, Bo53 said: Imagine the reaction of all the leafs fans if Boeser got 40 goals in his rookie year right after Matthews did it... I love to hate the leafs As a Canucks fan living in Toronto, they would say we got a really good player in Brock Boeser and congratulate me. They would literally have no reaction. Why would they? It isn't like they traded Boeser away for peanuts. Also, the Canucks to the Leafs are what the Senators are to the Canucks. Do Canucks fans care at all about the Sens? Not really. On the topic of the Senators, if Dahlen wins the calder or scores 30 goals next year imagine their reaction after making that horrible trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Zhukini said: First of all, defensemen don't play at 19 anymore, Provorov played a full season. He's a + player on a terrible team, and had more points than any of our defensemen last year AND this current year. In regards to the bolded, Brock scored last night playing with the twins. You might have heard of them. They're pretty good. I agree with your statement. The bolded i just wanted to highlight as a great number of posters here consider OJ a bust because he is not in the NHL at 19.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, apollo said: Ok I know I'm known to be a homer around here but are you kidding me?! Provorov is so overrated. Werenski you could argue is 3rd, but not a chance... a sniper like Brock is much more valuable. And Barzal ahead of Brock?! Goal scoring is way more important than getting assists. Brock has scored with any line mate he's had... Take Bo, Take Sven away and he's still popping home goals. Barzal is surrounded by two pretty solid players in Eberle and Ladd... Apollo, I'd like to nominate you for the selection committee, every yr for the HHOF. "Oh, you bunch of idiots can't you see Gary Bones Bromley innovated, & changed how the position was played?!..& obviously Kearns should be in, THAT's a non-starter!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Nothing to do with Boeser but those lists... barzal is looking pretty elite if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatPope Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Boeser is going to be the Canucks all time goal scoring leader in 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ThatPope said: Boeser is going to be the Canucks all time goal scoring leader in 10 years. an average of 38-40 goals every year for 10 straight years would be, uh, noteworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 20 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: If you watched the game, and watched the intermission, you saw Henrik's interview where he was asked about Boeser. His reply has to say something about how good this kid is... and will be. From my perspective Henrik Sedin is the guy who is least likely to exaggerate... bullsh*t... or otherwise string a line. Let's take the remark in context... who has Henrik played with? The obvious ones which come to mind: Marcus Naslund... 48 goal season... #1 alltime season goalscoring leader among Swedes. Daniel... 41 goal season Linden... 33 goal season. Not a bad group to be compared with... but lets also remember who else Henrik played with when he was on the Swedish Olympic team: Matts Sundin... 47 goal season Henrik Zetterberg... 43 goal season Daniel Alfredsson... 42 goal season Peter Forsberg... 38 goal season If Henrik thinks Brock "The Bullet" Boeser is in the same scoring league as the above list... then we will have a lot of happy Canuck fans in the future. You forgot Anson Carter, the best sniper in history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 20 hours ago, ABNuck said: His quick release kind of reminds me of Brett Hull (0.584 career GPG)...right now Brock is scoring at a 0.571 GPG rate. Brett also played collegiate hockey and was also criticized early in his career for his skating ability...oh yeah and then there's the hair...eerily similar... That "one timer" he had against the Penguins ? sure was reminiscent of Brett Hull and Ovie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 21 hours ago, ABNuck said: His quick release kind of reminds me of Brett Hull (0.584 career GPG)...right now Brock is scoring at a 0.571 GPG rate. Brett also played collegiate hockey and was also criticized early in his career for his skating ability...oh yeah and then there's the hair...eerily similar... Brock is an over all better player than Brett imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 hours ago, Zhukini said: I think he's more around 6. Barzal is probably going to be leading the league in assists, or near the top for the next decade. He also plays a more valuable position. 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Werenski 4. Provorov 5. Barzal 6. Boeser Marner is up there too, he's having a sophomore slump, much like you can expect for Boeser next year 12 hours ago, apollo said: Ok I know I'm known to be a homer around here but are you kidding me?! Provorov is so overrated. Werenski you could argue is 3rd, but not a chance... a sniper like Brock is much more valuable. And Barzal ahead of Brock?! Goal scoring is way more important than getting assists. Brock has scored with any line mate he's had... Take Bo, Take Sven away and he's still popping home goals. Barzal is surrounded by two pretty solid players in Eberle and Ladd... Ok so 1 and 2 are obviously McDavid and Eichel. 3-6 is tough. But Brock plays the least valuable position in hockey. Werenski put up 47 points as a rookie 19 year old D man. Provorov put up 30. Werenski is averaging 23 minutes a game this year. A 20 year old D man. Provorov is averaging 25 minutes a game. Also 20 years old. This year, they are both going at a 0.5 pt/gp pace, and are stud D men at 20 years old. Brock and Barzal simply don't have a large enough sample size yet. But since they are both going at relatively similar point pace, you have to put Barzal in front because of his position. So Boeser at 6 is correct for now. Remember, he was #23, so a jump of 17 spots in a re-draft is pretty damn good..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 2017-12-11 at 10:14 PM, The Game said: I think that you can make a case for Brock being the second best pure goal scorer the Canucks have had during the Sedin Era, only trailing Näslund, and if he keeps this up he might even surpass him. Näslund sure as hell didn’t score 16 in 28 during his rookie season. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 hours ago, Zhukini said: I think he's more around 6. Barzal is probably going to be leading the league in assists, or near the top for the next decade. He also plays a more valuable position. 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Werenski 4. Provorov 5. Barzal 6. Boeser Marner is up there too, he's having a sophomore slump, much like you can expect for Boeser next year Well, I just hate to break it to you but........Pettersson will lead the league in assists for the next 10+ years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Canucklehead73 said: Nothing to do with Boeser but those lists... barzal is looking pretty elite if you ask me. Heck of a young player for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 14 hours ago, tas said: the thing I'm most impressed with is that he doesn't seem to miss the net ... like, ever. when he shoots the puck, one of 4 things happen: 1) it goes in a corner 2) it goes through the goalie due to sheer force 3) it hits the goalie (this isn't the same as making a save. at best it's fighting it off) 4) it gets deflected or blocked you can look at his 21% shooting percentage and say it's unsustainable, and it's possible you're right (since that's an absurd scoring rate), but the way he plays and shoots the puck, I think he's going to be a very rare player that capitalizes on a ridiculous percentage of his opportunities. He also drags the puck and changes the angle of his shot to throw the goalies off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 hours ago, ThatPope said: Boeser is going to be the Canucks all time goal scoring leader in 10 years. I seriously doubt it! Not in today's NHL he won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 22 hours ago, Zhukini said: First of all, defensemen don't play at 19 anymore, Provorov played a full season. He's a + player on a terrible team, and had more points than any of our defensemen last year AND this current year. In regards to the bolded, Brock scored last night playing with the twins. You might have heard of them. They're pretty good. You also may have noticed that Brock Boeser has scored in every single game so far since his centre Bo Horvat got injured. Those three goals: 1 dirty rebound in front of the net 1 nice shot off the rush 1 snipe from the slot guy can can score in every way no matter who he’s with. That being said, all else being equal a centre is a more valued position than a winger. I’m not too sure about what Barzal’s play away from the puck is like, but if it’s similar to Brock’s, I would have to give the edge to Barzal simply because he is a centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 hours ago, erkayloomeh said: Brock is an over all better player than Brett imo Agree...it was easier for Brett in his day...he was a one-dimensional player who was deployed in every offensive situation. He often times would score 40+ goals but end up on the negative side of +/-...if Brock was like him in today's NHL I would bet that he'd either find himself in the A for longer...or in the K forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgraham Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ABNuck said: Agree...it was easier for Brett in his day...he was a one-dimensional player who was deployed in every offensive situation. He often times would score 40+ goals but end up on the negative side of +/-...if Brock was like him in today's NHL I would bet that he'd either find himself in the A for longer...or in the K forever... i kind of feel its to early to say brock boeser, with his grand total of 37 games, is a better overall player then a guy who scored at least 70 goals in 3 straight years.... including an 86 goal season......in which the next closest player had 51 goals...and another 2 50 goal seasons......... I mean seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 12/11/2017 at 9:58 PM, *Buzzsaw* said: If you watched the game, and watched the intermission, you saw Henrik's interview where he was asked about Boeser. His reply has to say something about how good this kid is... and will be. It's not just Henrik talking up Boeser it's the all sports media as well. I've heard "In Boesers first 28 games only 3 players have scored more than Boeser in their first 28 games " Lindros Selanne Ovechkin I have also heard "Boesers catch and release is already top 3 in the league " These two things alone speaks volumes, this kid is the real deal and our captain knows it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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