Canuck Records Database

[-AJ-]

I find that I'm often looking for a lot of information on Canuck records that takes a bit of work to find, so I thought I'd make a spreadsheet to show a bunch of Canuck records and how they've changed over the history of the Canucks. Personally, I'll be using this for quick access to information for my hockey blog, but I figured some others on here might want to use it or just view it for curiosity's sake. There's far to much information to place in this post, so I've just made the Google Sheet accessible by link if you're interested:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1czbmdTFdMVNMVrkHaOH0jzWt5jVXMCo4JAXDSQRu36c/edit?usp=sharing

 

Some interesting bits I found:

- The oldest single-season player record is assists by a defenseman, set by Dennis Kearns in 1976-77 with 55 assists

- The oldest career stats player record of the ones I track is shorthanded goals by a defenseman, where Lumme last set the record of 6 shorthanded goals as a Canuck in 1993-94, after scoring three shorties in one season. This was formerly career assists by a defenseman, but Edler has finally beaten that record too.

- In Vancouver's inaugural season, Dale Tallon set marks for a rookie defenseman that have still not been beaten today, making them the oldest Canuck records in any category. (9/5/20 EDIT: Quinn Hughes has beaten his assist record, but the games, goals, and points ones still stand)

- The oldest career special teams record is by Dennis Kearns for powerplay points by a defenseman with 143, set in 1980-81. Alex Edler is just four powerplay points behind with 139 and could soon break this old record. (1/29/18 EDIT: Alex Edler has surpassed this record)

- Despite the 80s being hyper-offensive, the Canucks were better in the early 90s, so their highest goals-per-game came in 1992-93

- The Canucks apparently had a crazy good powerplay in 1982-83

 

Also let me know if you spot any errors; there's a lot of information so it's likely that I made a few mistakes along the way.

 

Updated (12/30/17):

 

All Skaters:

Career Games (Henrik)

Career Goals (Daniel)

Career Assists (Henrik)

Career Points (Henrik)

^All of the above for just forwards too.

Career Powerplay points (Henrik) among forwards and all skaters

Extra things of note: 

- Edler has scored one more powerplay point, putting him just three behind Kearns for that old record (140 to 143)

- Boeser will have to perform well to break records, even just within his position, as he's a right wing, and we all know what other right wing had a great Canuck rookie season. 34 goals, 31 assists, and 60 points are the records to break for right wings. Among all skaters, he has to beat Dale Tallon's 42 rookie assists, the oldest Canuck record, set in the inaugural season of 1970-71.

 

Updated (1/29/18):

 

All Skaters and Forwards:

Career Games (Henrik - 1297 Games)

Career Goals (Daniel - 381 Goals)

Career Assists (Henrik - 813 Assists)

Career Points (Henrik - 1052 Points)

All Skaters and Forwards:

Career Powerplay Goals (Daniel Sedin - 133 PPG)

Career Powerplay Points (Henrik Sedin - 363 PPP)

Defensemen:

Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 144 PPP) NEW RECORD HOLDER

 

Updated (3/16/18):

 

All Skaters and Forwards:
Career Games (Henrik - 1319 Games)

Career Goals (Daniel - 391 Goals)

Career Assists (Henrik - 824 Assists)

Career Points (Henrik - 1063 Points)

Career Powerplay Goals (Daniel Sedin - 137 PPG)

Career Powerplay Points (Henrik Sedin - 368 PPP)


Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 326 Points) NEW RECORD HOLDER

Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 149 PPP)

 

Team:
Most recent 5 goal differential (Feb 17, 2018 vs Boston Bruins, 6-1) 

Most recent 6 goal differential (Feb 11, 2018 vs Dallas Stars, 6-0)

 

Updated (4/8/18):

 

 

Final Update for the end of the 2017-18 season. This will have a lot fewer updates with the twins gone next year. Only Edler will continue to set new records unless we have a superstar rookie *cough* Pettersson *cough*.


All Skaters and Forwards:
Career Games (Henrik - 1330 Games)

Career Goals (Daniel - 393 Goals)

Career Assists (Henrik - 830 Assists)

Career Points (Henrik - 1070 Points)

Career Powerplay Goals (Daniel Sedin - 138 PPG)

Career Powerplay Points (Henrik Sedin - 369 PPP)


Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 334 Points) 

Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 153 PPP)

 

Updated (10/21/18):

 

 

Defensemen:

Career Points (Alex Edler - 339 points)

Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 156 PPP)
 
As predicted, only Edler is making moves on here for now. If Pettersson can stay healthy though, I think it should be very very doable for him to break all the records for a rookie centreman. The records are 20 goals, 31 assists, and 51 points.
 

 

 

Updated (12/9/18):

 

 

Most Recent 5-goal differential: Dec 9, 2018 against St. Louis Blues (Most points: E. Pettersson, 5)

Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 342 points)
 
Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 157 PPP)

Other notes:

Edler is still the only one with changes on here so far this year, but EP is just 5 goals away from tying the Canuck record for the most goals by a rookie centreman, which is currently held by Thomas Gradin at 20, set way back in 1978-79.

Edler himself is also now 7 goals behind Ohlund's goal record. It's still in reach this year, but it's a stretch for him to hit it as it would require a 9-goal season. A bit further away (probably) is career powerplay goals by a defenseman where Edler's 42 remains 6 behind Salo's 48 PPGs. At 775 games as a Canuck Edler is now just 6 games short of the record for a Canuck defenseman of 781 games held by Harold Snepsts.

 

 

Updated (12/23/18):

 

 

Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 348 points)

 Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 160 PPP)

 Career Games (Alex Edler - 782 games)


Other notes:

EP is just 3 goals away from tying the Canuck record for the most goals by a rookie centreman, which is currently held by Thomas Gradin at 20, set way back in 1978-79.

The only main records Edler has to catch now are career goals and career assists among defensemen. Assists is next to impossible to catch this year and goals would also be a stretch. If he re-signs, barring injury or heavy offensive drop off, he'll certainly pass both next year.
 

 

 

Updated (1/7/19):

 

 

Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 353 points)

Career Powerplay Points (Alex Edler - 163 PPP)

Career Games (Alex Edler - 788 games)

Updated to correct Ivan Hlinka's rookie records which I missed. Updated centre records for goals, assists, and points.

Other notes:

EP is 1 goal away from tying the Canuck record for the most goals by a rookie centreman, which has been corrected to currently held by Ivan Hlinka with 23 goals at 32 years old, set back in 1981-82.
 

 

Updated (2/7/19):

 

 

Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 354 points)

Career Games (Alex Edler - 796 games)

Centres:
Rookie Goals (E. Pettersson - 25 goals) NEW RECORD HOLDER


Other notes:
- Pettersson is 1 GWG away from tying the record for the most game-winning goals by a Canuck centreman. The record of 8 GWG was set by Morrison in 2002-03 and tied by Henrik Sedin in 2008-09.

- Pettersson finally officially broke his way into my record books, beating Hlinka's 37-year old record of goals by a Canuck rookie centreman. Hlinka had 23 goals in 1981-82, and Pettersson is currently at 25 goals.
 

 

 

Updated (6/19/19):

 

 

Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 368 points)

Career Games (Alex Edler - 814 games)

Career Goals (Alex Edler - 94 goals) NEW RECORD HOLDER

Career Point Play Points (Alex Edler - 170 PPP)

Centres:
Rookie Goals (E. Pettersson - 28 goals)

Rookie Points (E. Pettersson - 66 points) NEW RECORD HOLDER

All Skaters:
Rookie Points (E. Pettersson - 66 points) NEW RECORD HOLDER

Other notes:
- Edler (45 PPG) is 3 powerplay goals from surpassing Salo as the all-time leader in PPGs, who has 48.
- Edler is 16 assists behind Dennis Kearns for the all-time assist record. Kearns is at 290 assists.
- Edler is 6 goals from becoming the first Canuck defenseman to score 100 goals with the team.
- While Pettersson didn't beat Bure's rookie goals record, he did beat Hlinka's 23-goal record for rookie centres.
- Pettersson was one assist shy of besting Hlinka's record of 37 assists as a rookie centre.

 

Updated (12/23/19):

 

 

Defensemen:
Career Points (Alex Edler - 383 points)

 

Career Games (Alex Edler - 841 games)

 

Career Goals (Alex Edler - 98 goals)

Career Point Play Points (Alex Edler - 176 PPP)

Other notes:
- Edler (46 PPG) is 2 powerplay goals from surpassing Salo as the all-time leader in PPGs, who has 48.
- Edler is 5 assists behind Dennis Kearns for the all-time assist record. Kearns is at 290 assists.
- Edler is 2 goals from becoming the first Canuck defenseman to score 100 goals with the team.
- I don't track this record, but Hughes' 14 PP Points are 4th among rookie Canuck defenders. Kearns set the record in 1971-72 with 17.
- As of right now (prior to tonight's game vs the Oilers), Hughes has 0.72 points-per-game, which is exactly what Dale Tallon had when he set the Canucks rookie defensemen records in 1970-71. Back then, they only played 78 games in a season though, so Hughes has four extra games to work with.

 

Updated (9/5/20):

 

Spoiler

 

Defensemen:

Career Points (Alex Edler - 401 points)

 

Career Games (Alex Edler - 873 games)

 

Career Goals (Alex Edler - 99 goals)

 

Career Assists (Alex Edler - 302 assists) NEW RECORD HOLDER

 

Career Point Play Points (Alex Edler - 177 PPP)

 

Rookie Records

Defensemen and All Skaters:

Single Season Assists (Quinn Hughes  - 45 assists) NEW RECORD HOLDER

 

Team:

Most recent 6-goal differential (Feb 22, 2020, 9-3 vs Boston Bruins)

 

Other notes:

- Demko came within four wins of tying Hirsch's record for the most wins by a rookie goaltender (Demko at 13 compared to Hirsch's 17)

- Edler (46 PPG) is 2 powerplay goals from tying Salo as the all-time leader in PPGs, who has 48.

- Edler is 1 goal from becoming the first Canuck defenseman to score 100 goals with the team.

- The 2019-20 Canucks had an average 54.0% face-off percentage. This is the second highest percentage in recorded team history. The current record of 54.85% was set in 2010-11. Note: I only have record of these stats since 1997-98.

- I don't track this record, but Hughes' 25 PP Points are the most of any rookie Canuck ever. Better than Pettersson, Boeser (who is now 2nd with 23), and even Bure (who's powerplay stats weren't actually that impressive as a rookie). 

- Pettersson has moved into a tie with Linden at 2nd among Canuck centres with seven career shootout goals. Kesler is first among Canuck centres with 11.

- Hughes was on pace to finish the season with 63 or 64 points in 82 games, which would've bested Tallon's 50-year old record of 56 points by a Canuck defenseman by a considerable margin.

 

 

Updated (6/18/21):

 

Spoiler

Updated (6/18/21):

 

Defensemen:

Career Points (Alex Edler - 409 points)

 

Career Games (Alex Edler - 925 games)

 

Career Assists (Alex Edler - 310 assists)

 

Team:

Most recent 6-goal differential (Jan 25, 2021, 7-1 vs Ottawa Senators)

 

Other notes:

- We have not won by exactly 5 goals in nearly two years, but we've won by six goals a few times in that span.

- Edler (46 PPG) is 2 powerplay goals from tying Salo as the all-time leader in PPGs, who has 48.

- Edler is 1 goal from becoming the first Canuck defenseman to score 100 goals with the team.

- I decided to count Miller as a winger for this season, so he doesn't get noted on the OT goals/season record (2 would tie the current record, originally set by Messier in 1999-00)

 

Updated (6/16/22):

Spoiler

Updated (6/16/22):

 

Defensemen:

Single Season Assists (Quinn Hughes - 60 assists)

 

Single Season Points (Quinn Hughes - 68 points)

 

Centres:

Single Season Power Play Points (J.T. Miller - 38 points)

 

Single Season Overtime Goals (J.T. Miller - 3 OT goals)

 

Team:

Most recent 6-goal differential (Apr 14, 2022, 7-1 vs Arizona Coyotes)

 

Other notes:

- The Canucks have not won by exactly 5 goals in almost three years, but have won by six goals four times in that span, including twice in 2022

- This is the first year since 2001-02 that no player has set a new career record for standard stats (Linden rejoined in 2002-03 to push his records and Naslund, the Sedins, Luongo, and Edler have all pushed career records since then)

- Unlike last year, I counted Miller as a centre this year, since his face-offs per game went up by about 50% and he was used more as a centre this year

- In setting the record for OT goals in a season by a centre, Miller has wiped Messier's name from my current record holder database

- In beating Dennis Kearns' 55-assist record for a defenseman, Hughes has knocked off one of the oldest Canuck records, which Kearns set back in 1976-77. The oldest record in my database is shared by games, goals, and points by a rookie defenseman, to Dale Tallon. Hughes has the record for assists by a rookie defenseman.

- With his single OT goal this past year, Boeser is one more OT goal away from tying Tony Tanti and Todd Bertuzzi for the all-time bests for a right winger (3 OT goals).

 

[diesel_3]

Awesome, AJ

[Green Building]

@-AJ- This should be pinned in Canucks Talk, at least for awhile. Is there a mod here?  

 

 

Also, Andre Boudrias = @Boudrias ?

 

 

[-AJ-]

Just now, Green Building said:

@-AJ- This should be pinned in Canucks Talk, at least for awhile. Is there a mod here?  

 

 

Also, Andre Boudrias = @Boudrias ?

 

 

Haha, we'll see. If enough people would like it, I'd be fine with pinning it. Don't wanna toot my own horn too much though

[JM_]

57 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Haha, we'll see. If enough people would like it, I'd be fine with pinning it. Don't wanna toot my own horn too much though

definitely pin it, its a good resource.

 

plus, Cloutier got 7 shutouts in one seaosn? no way would I have got that one right on a trivia question.

[Cramarossa]

AJ you're the real MVP!

[-Vintage Canuck-]

Good work as always, AJ. This will be a useful thread to check back from time-to-time.

[kilgore]

Good work!  At least this thread could be bumped, by yourself if not anyone else, every time a new record is broken.

[rychicken]

-AJ- should be in the ring of honour

[IbanezRG]

We should have a nerds section. 

[Salacious Crumb]

3 minutes ago, IbanezRG said:

We should have a nerds section. 

It’s called White Noise...

[nuck-lifer]

This is a great reference for Canuck's stats. Excellent work here!

 

So many stand out as a surprise, but the Dan Cloutier's Save% and  wins gets my attention, since i remember nothing but criticism with Cloutier's play including myself.

#lovestats

 

[darkpoet]

I'll suggest pinning this, if someone releases the "Burrows do we really need him" thread

[spook007]

15 hours ago, -AJ- said:

Haha, we'll see. If enough people would like it, I'd be fine with pinning it. Don't wanna toot my own horn too much though

Toot away bud, you earned it

 

[TheGuardian_]

Good work.

 

Some records could be either adjusted or take into account the new point and win/loss system for win percentage, goalie stats. Maybe an asterisk.

 

Prior to the new system league wide wins equaled losses with ties so .500 meant half way, now .500 means 4 or 5 from the bottom of the league.

 

Since the new point system how many additional wins and points have come through winning an OT/SO game?

 

An example, last year, 2016/2017 the Nucks had an additional 11 wins/points in OT/SO adding to the win percentage and point total, the year before 2015/2016, an additional 9 wins/points, take those away and comparing teams and records changes the landscape vastly.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2017 by TheGuardian_

[-AJ-]

4 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said:

Good work.

 

Some records could be either adjusted or take into account the new point and win/loss system for win percentage, goalie stats. Maybe an asterisk.

 

Prior to the new system league wide wins equaled losses with ties so .500 meant half way, now .500 means 4 or 5 from the bottom of the league.

 

Since the new point system how many additional wins and points have come through winning an OT/SO game?

 

An example, last year, 2016/2017 the Nucks had an additional 11 wins/points in OT/SO adding to the win percentage and point total, the year before 2015/2016, an additional 9 wins/points, take those away and comparing teams and records changes the landscape vastly.

That's something that could definitely be looked into. It would just require figuring out the average point percentage and then scaling down the team's point percentage in that year by a factor that brings the average back down to .500. Still, records won't be tracked like that, just like Gretzky's 92 goals or 215 points won't be changed for purposes of record keeping. Over the years, I've found it so difficult to accurately compare different eras that I just take the numbers from each era with a grain of salt and make sure that I understand the context of the game at the time. 

[TheGuardian_]

3 hours ago, -AJ- said:

That's something that could definitely be looked into. It would just require figuring out the average point percentage and then scaling down the team's point percentage in that year by a factor that brings the average back down to .500. Still, records won't be tracked like that, just like Gretzky's 92 goals or 215 points won't be changed for purposes of record keeping. Over the years, I've found it so difficult to accurately compare different eras that I just take the numbers from each era with a grain of salt and make sure that I understand the context of the game at the time. 

Actually making the adjustment for team comparison stats is not difficult, just time consuming.

 

Just look to all the OT/SO wins, if the result was a win then subtract the win and the point and count it as a tie. Essentially just subtract the win and point for those and then just do the win percentage, the ties don't count as wins or losses.

 

ie; 2016/2017 Canucks - The Canucks were credited with 11 wins in OT/SO of their 30 wins. Subtract the additional 11 wins and points and then just divide the wins by 164 (2 points per win, 82 games). While the modern day stats show a wining percentage of .421, slightly worse than .500, the old method used for 80+ years would show a win percentage of .256, the worst in club history. This does not make for good marketing or inspire fan confidence.

 

The opposite is also true, a good team looks even better and that is why just about ALL coaches now have a winning coaching record and goalies show so many more wins.

 

Another way to see your algorithm may be to use the total number of points awarded to the teams, 3200 pts in 1300 games, then to multiply all the games played, let's say 1300, by 2 points = 2600 pts. It would/may give a starting point for further ratios of enhancement.

 

ie;

New system,

Points awarded during the season in 1300 total games played = 3200 (just a number thrown out there).

 

Traditional, used for 80+ years method,

1300 two point games = 2600 points.

 

3200 - 2600 = 600 and 3200/2600 = 1.231. 23.1% or a ratio of 1.231 per game.

 

The NHL has then awarded 600 more points and 23.1% more wins in the new system.

That could mean that the numbers used indicate 23.1% more teams will be .500 or roughly 76.9% of the 31 teams are over .500 = 24 of the 31 teams.

 

You could take it a step further and calculate numbers of losses into the formula, which could likely make the difference even larger.

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by TheGuardian_

[petmar74]

Interesting stuff there gaurdian. I wonder about all these extra points being handed out. But automatically making it a tie when a game is decided in OT/shootout doesn't completely make sense to me. In the era of ties teams still had a chance to win in OT. OT lengths also changed over the years. There just wasn't a point handed out to the loser of the game. Which leads me to this point system has been all wrong since the NHL brought in this extra point. How can different games have different points handed out during any regular season games? 

Love the quick record check!

Nice work AJ!

[Westcoasting]

On 12/13/2017 at 5:27 PM, petmar74 said:

Interesting stuff there gaurdian. I wonder about all these extra points being handed out. But automatically making it a tie when a game is decided in OT/shootout doesn't completely make sense to me. In the era of ties teams still had a chance to win in OT. OT lengths also changed over the years. There just wasn't a point handed out to the loser of the game. Which leads me to this point system has been all wrong since the NHL brought in this extra point. How can different games have different points handed out during any regular season games? 

Love the quick record check!

Nice work AJ!

Overtime hasn't always been around, when i started watching there was no overtime. Sometime in the 80's it started.

[-AJ-]

I hope I have to update this for Boeser at some point.