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31 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said:

Just to point out...  That's a total of 10 years worth of extremely high draft-picks before we actually turn things around!  And, everyone here loves Benning and thinks he's doing such a wonderful job!  10 years!  A 'lost-decade'.  The average NHL-career is 5.7 seasons!

Never said we are going to be high drafting ever year. We probably finish in the bottom 5 this year, between 20 to 25th ish next year depending on if the Sedins retire/ replacement plan/ off season moves. Once Pettersson comes in 2 years I'd say we are playoff contenders with Joulevi, Demko, and our other propsects setting in. In 3 years we probably are barely missing the playoffs or just making it depending on our conference

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39 minutes ago, VanGnome said:

Man, the level of thinly veiled pro tanking here is reprehensible.

 

This team if they play together as a team can weather this storm of injury. My expectation going into this month with a healthy roster was to be about 2 games above 0.500 heading into the new year.

Now that we've suffered a rash of injuries, the Canucks are 3 and 4, with 6 games remaining against CGY, MTL, SJS, STL, CHI and LAK. The Calgary and Montreal games are very much winnable, if they bring it like they did against San Jose the other night, that's a winnable game as well. St Louis will be a tough opponent, as will Chicago and LA.

If the Canucks can go at LEAST 3-2-1 in the rest of this month, as they get healthy bodies back, I can absolutely see them going on a bit of a tear in January and into the deadline in February.

All in all, the Canucks are 3-4 points out of a wild card spot, with many of the upcoming games against opponents they are in direct competition with either for a divisional spot, or a wild card spot. A lot of other things can happen to other teams, but all the Canucks can do is attend to the details of their game, not worry about the injuries and to each man play a good hard game and anything can happen.

Green has these guys playing well in a system, I think what we've seen is a couple of stumbles by a team that's been depleted of its depth, but bounced back in a big way against the Sharks.

Go throw in the towel if you want, but the nice thing about this league and the parity that has been created, anyone has a shot any given night to win. Look at how the Canucks have shut down McDavid, Ovechkin, Matthews, etc. Winnipeg and Nashville notwithstanding, the team usually gets up for tough opponents, so I'm glad that they are facing a whole lot of them here in the near future. It's going to be a great litmus test, and if the canucks can get out of December with a 6-6-1 record in spite of the injuries, it's going to give them a good chance to continue to fight for a playoff spot.

Management needs to do their part, and stay the course. If a deal makes sense make it, but I suspect they will not make many moves to bring in veterans on D or F, and may actually look to deal someone like Gudbranson in exchange for a piece that can help now and in the future, likely up front. The team doesn't need "another year of high picks and accumulation of draft picks and prospects". The team needs forward progression, and challenging for a wild card playoff spot is the next checkpoint. Whether they make it or not is immaterial, the fight and the drive is all that matters.

If the team falls short and ends up 9th or 10th I'll be just as happy as if they make it and are bounced in the first round. It's something to build from, and next year is going to be even better with the potential additions of Gaudette, Juolevi, Pettersson and Dahlen (not Dahlin, we're not getting 1OA). We should also see Demko be ready for spot duty in a call up capacity next year as well.

If the team is legitimately bad, then they are bad on their own merit, but to simply give in the towel and focus on losing is regression, and you (whoever you are) that thinks this way should be ashamed of yourself.

/rant

Edit: I'm off to go watch Star Wars.

nice to be so optimistic

you do recall though

that san jose played the night before they played the nucks

they were tired

the canucks were rested..

yet needed ot to get that win

not gonna be so easy against the upcoming teams who do not play the night before

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Let's do the math.

 

Last year, 94 points got Calgary and Nashville into the playoffs.  This year, the Pacific Div is probably only going to have 3 teams that make the playoffs and the 3rd Pacific team last year was San Jose with 99.  But let's just say that 94 would do it.

 

94 less the Cunucks current total, 34 means they will need 60 over the remainder of the schedule.

 

There are 82 - 33 = 49 more games

 

That's 11 points over 0.500 which would be a record of 30-19

 

How long is Horvat out?

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1 hour ago, PunjabiCanucks said:

No. We are way too inconsistent! Without Boeser what would we be tbh, as nice as the Sedins played against the Sharks they are inconsistent too and can't be relied on to win us games. Edler cant be relied on and Tanev is getting injured a lot. We lack a top 4 in all honesty we have a couple #2/3 dman, a bunch of 4s and 5s. Markstrom and Nilson have played great up until December, but we lack a true starting goalie and without Sutter and Horvat we are effed for faceoffs.

 

I still believe in the future and think we are playoff contenders in 3 years if all things work out and cup contenders in 5 to 6.

Well said. But don't tell too many people. Sometimes logic don't work with the learn-ed. 

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6 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

Let's do the math.

 

Last year, 94 points got Calgary and Nashville into the playoffs.  This year, the Pacific Div is probably only going to have 3 teams that make the playoffs and the 3rd Pacific team last year was San Jose with 99.  But let's just say that 94 would do it.

 

94 less the Cunucks current total, 34 means they will need 60 over the remainder of the schedule.

 

There are 82 - 33 = 49 more games

 

That's 11 points over 0.500 which would be a record of 30-19

 

How long is Horvat out?

In the predictions thread I went with 85 pts. I still think that's reasonable.

 

Playoffs hopes are a little far fetched and have been since Oct. 

 

Regardless of the next few months, the last few have been very enjoyable to watch. And we're only getting better.

 

I'm content with the small victories this year, breathing the sigh of relief as we watch new talent emerging and many more coming down the pipe.

 

Playoffs would be &^@#ing awesome, but I haven't even got my hopes up even once for them this year.

 

It'll come though, the $&!#heads in Toronto will be peeing their beds in anxiety and the NHL will do everything they can to stop us, but they won't be able to.

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Ultimitly you want to compete for a playoff spot,we’re doin that.with injuries and the like it’s not looking good but we have some good youth and they’re learning.A playoff push weather we make it or not is crucial to the development of the youth of this team

 

lol don’t critique my spelling

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Its a funny thing, just when we think we are down and out, the Nucks find a way to muster some gritty and hearty wins, but when we think we finally can make some noise, they flub a series of games.

 

That win against the Sharks is a huge boost for the confidence.  This final stretch really determines our fate. We are only 4 points out of a wildcard spot.  If the Canucks find a way to win 5 of the next 6 games remaining of December, you might convince me that this team has some guts to stick it out.  

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3 hours ago, VanGnome said:

Man, the level of thinly veiled pro tanking here is reprehensible.

 

This team if they play together as a team can weather this storm of injury. My expectation going into this month with a healthy roster was to be about 2 games above 0.500 heading into the new year.

Now that we've suffered a rash of injuries, the Canucks are 3 and 4, with 6 games remaining against CGY, MTL, SJS, STL, CHI and LAK. The Calgary and Montreal games are very much winnable, if they bring it like they did against San Jose the other night, that's a winnable game as well. St Louis will be a tough opponent, as will Chicago and LA.

If the Canucks can go at LEAST 3-2-1 in the rest of this month, as they get healthy bodies back, I can absolutely see them going on a bit of a tear in January and into the deadline in February.

All in all, the Canucks are 3-4 points out of a wild card spot, with many of the upcoming games against opponents they are in direct competition with either for a divisional spot, or a wild card spot. A lot of other things can happen to other teams, but all the Canucks can do is attend to the details of their game, not worry about the injuries and to each man play a good hard game and anything can happen.

Green has these guys playing well in a system, I think what we've seen is a couple of stumbles by a team that's been depleted of its depth, but bounced back in a big way against the Sharks.

Go throw in the towel if you want, but the nice thing about this league and the parity that has been created, anyone has a shot any given night to win. Look at how the Canucks have shut down McDavid, Ovechkin, Matthews, etc. Winnipeg and Nashville notwithstanding, the team usually gets up for tough opponents, so I'm glad that they are facing a whole lot of them here in the near future. It's going to be a great litmus test, and if the canucks can get out of December with a 6-6-1 record in spite of the injuries, it's going to give them a good chance to continue to fight for a playoff spot.

Management needs to do their part, and stay the course. If a deal makes sense make it, but I suspect they will not make many moves to bring in veterans on D or F, and may actually look to deal someone like Gudbranson in exchange for a piece that can help now and in the future, likely up front. The team doesn't need "another year of high picks and accumulation of draft picks and prospects". The team needs forward progression, and challenging for a wild card playoff spot is the next checkpoint. Whether they make it or not is immaterial, the fight and the drive is all that matters.

If the team falls short and ends up 9th or 10th I'll be just as happy as if they make it and are bounced in the first round. It's something to build from, and next year is going to be even better with the potential additions of Gaudette, Juolevi, Pettersson and Dahlen (not Dahlin, we're not getting 1OA). We should also see Demko be ready for spot duty in a call up capacity next year as well.

If the team is legitimately bad, then they are bad on their own merit, but to simply give in the towel and focus on losing is regression, and you (whoever you are) that thinks this way should be ashamed of yourself.

/rant

Edit: I'm off to go watch Star Wars.

I don’t often disagree with you but we are bad because we are bad. I predicted a 72 point season and that’s where we are headed.

I’m as big a fan as the next but we are a cellar dweller this season and next.

 

Wish I had your optimism and enjoy the movie!

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44 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said:

I don’t often disagree with you but we are bad because we are bad. I predicted a 72 point season and that’s where we are headed.

I’m as big a fan as the next but we are a cellar dweller this season and next.

 

Wish I had your optimism and enjoy the movie!

Like I said, if we're bad it's legitimately bad. However to throw in the towel as fans less than 1/2 way through a season is foolish. A LOT can happen in 1/2 a season, this is why you play the games and let the chips fall where they may.

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