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3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Yes I'm wrong because you found a report that shows people like socialism.:lol:

 

Remember when I showed you a report that ranked Canada #1 and then #2 the following year? Oh ya you dismissed that report..

I guess you did not look at the report... too bad. 

 

Happiness of its citizens should be the primary concern of any government. 

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4 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I was never as aware of them but during their entire 10 years or whatever was secretly curious what they were doing so well as they continually seemed to be ahead of everywhere else in Canada in growth and people were moving there in droves.   I heard they had some interesting leaders (socially awkward) but that, in all, the fixed a lot of things and were progressing key projects for future benefit.   All I hear now is pretty much your Province is shut down.

 

Too bad there isn't an alternative to both of them there.   Isn't there a conservative option?

The liberal party of BC is actually a Conservative Party in disguise  ......

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1 minute ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I was never as aware of them but during their entire 10 years or whatever was secretly curious what they were doing so well as they continually seemed to be ahead of everywhere else in Canada in growth and people were moving there in droves.   I heard they had some interesting leaders (socially awkward) but that, in all, the fixed a lot of things and were progressing key projects for future benefit.   All I hear now is pretty much your Province is shut down.

 

Too bad there isn't an alternative to both of them there.   Isn't there a conservative option?

I live in Alberta, I have for years. I'm from B.C and still have home there but I'm only there in the summers. 

 

The B.C liberals made big business rich and thats about it. Average wages are very low in B.C, they have constantly lead Canada in child poverty and they are way behind in infrastructure. Doctors, nurses and teachers are paid poorly. In 16 years of government this is not a record to be proud of.

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Just now, kingofsurrey said:

The liberal party of BC is actually a Conservative Party in disguise  ......

No it isn't. Christy Clark is completely in line with the Trudeau liberals. I can post you some interesting stuff that would make your head spin. 

 

The B.C liberals are actually the total BS garbage party.

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

I live in Alberta, I have for years. I'm from B.C and still have home there but I'm only there in the summers. 

 

The B.C liberals made big business rich and thats about it. Average wages are very low in B.C, they have constantly lead Canada in child poverty and they are way behind in infrastructure. Doctors, nurses and teachers are paid poorly. In 16 years of government this is not a record to be proud of.

Accurate assessment. 

 

BC's economy is a  false  economy....   overly reliant of foreign owned / investment homes.   /  real estate speculators.

Very few employers actually paying liveable wages. 

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

I live in Alberta, I have for years. I'm from B.C and still have home there but I'm only there in the summers. 

 

The B.C liberals made big business rich and thats about it. Average wages are very low in B.C, they have constantly lead Canada in child poverty and they are way behind in infrastructure. Doctors, nurses and teachers are paid poorly. In 16 years of government this is not a record to be proud of.

So by not building anything the NDP is going to help that infrastructure?    I guess getting more money to those groups will be good but how going to pay for it?   Raising taxes isn't an option for any jurisdiction that wants to keep its businesses and professionals as all are so mobile now.   Only option is to either cut programs or invest in infrastructure (like investing in future) but doesn't sound like anyone is doing that in BC.

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5 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

No it isn't. Christy Clark is completely in line with the Trudeau liberals. I can post you some interesting stuff that would make your head spin. 

 

The B.C liberals are actually the total BS garbage party.

Disagree.

 

Google CC and the Conserve Party...  interesting read. 

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1 minute ago, Rob_Zepp said:

So by not building anything the NDP is going to help that infrastructure?    I guess getting more money to those groups will be good but how going to pay for it?   Raising taxes isn't an option for any jurisdiction that wants to keep its businesses and professionals as all are so mobile now.   Only option is to either cut programs or invest in infrastructure (like investing in future) but doesn't sound like anyone is doing that in BC.

NDP will build infrastructure....

 

Site C

New Patulla Bridge...

 

Wait for the fireworks when NDP announce a LNG project proceeding.....

 

 

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Just now, Rob_Zepp said:

So by not building anything the NDP is going to help that infrastructure?    I guess getting more money to those groups will be good but how going to pay for it?   Raising taxes isn't an option for any jurisdiction that wants to keep its businesses and professionals as all are so mobile now.   Only option is to either cut programs or invest in infrastructure (like investing in future) but doesn't sound like anyone is doing that in BC.

Lol I'm not defending the B.C ndp you have me pegged all wrong. Both main parties in B.C are a disaster.

 

The B.C government added over 4 billion in debt in their last budget I suppose thats how they're paying for things.:lol:

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1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said:

NDP will build infrastructure....

 

Site C

New Patulla Bridge...

 

Wait for the fireworks when NDP announce a LNG project proceeding.....

 

 

Until they expand pipeline capacity and get at least one more crossing over the Fraser for moving goods, it is all fluff and butterflies from anyone looking from outside your ivory tower.

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4 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Accurate assessment. 

 

BC's economy is a  false  economy....   overly reliant of foreign owned / investment homes.   /  real estate speculators.

Very few employers actually paying liveable wages. 

Ya my bad I forgot to mention how they are sacrificing their own citizens for the big money from foreign real estate investment. Most of which is dirty money.

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8 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Disagree.

 

Google CC and the Conserve Party...  interesting read. 

Christy Clark's BC Liberals are left, right and centre, but they sure aren't 'conservative'

How would you ideologically classify a political party that ran on a platform of tax cuts and balanced budgets? You’d probably say you need a bit more information, given cutting taxes and balancing budgets are hardly distinctive ideas. In Canada’s 2011 election, for instance, Jack Layton’s NDP, Michael Ignatieff’s Liberals and Stephen Harper’s Conservatives all ran promising to pursue this agenda, as have a rainbow of parties at the provincial level.

If I added that this theoretical party supports a carbon tax, “safe injection sites” for heroin addicts, and legalized marijuana, but opposes a major pipeline, you might think we’re in comfortably left-wing territory. 

 

Yet to call the B.C. Liberals “conservatives” because they’ve experienced occasional bouts of fiscal responsibility, appeased business interests, or annoyed unions — the sole evidence proponents of this theory point to — requires broadening the philosophy of “conservatism” to the point of uselessness. The Saskatchewan NDP closed schools and hospitals across the province during the 1990s. Were they right-wing? The Alberta Conservatives ran six deficit budgets in a row. Was that centre-left? Is Dalton McGuinty “a small-c conservative” because a teachers’ strike occurred during his reign?

 

The B.C. Liberals, for their part, have never fully played along with the right-wing role they’ve been assigned. When I interviewed Christy Clark back in 2004 she called herself “a middle-of-the-road Liberal,” emphasizing she’d been a provincial Liberal “when we used to get 5 per cent of the vote” (there’s a popular urban legend that the B.C. Liberals are a “new” party or even the “renamed” B.C. Social Credit Party — in reality, they’ve been contesting elections since the 19th century).

 

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/christy-clarks-bc-liberals-are-left-right-and-centre-but-they-sure-arent-conservative

 

I first met Christy Clark in 1984 or 1985, while studying at the University of Victoria. Christy and I were both Young Liberals and met at a few functions in Vancouver and Burnaby. At that time, she was attending Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, so we didn’t know each other that well. The gatherings were usually well attended, with anywhere from thirty to eighty youth, depending on whether it was an informal gathering or a function of the Liberal Party. 

 

http://www.timescolonist.com/life/islander/book-excerpt-the-political-rise-of-christy-clark-1.3667894

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1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

No it isn't. Christy Clark is completely in line with the Trudeau liberals. I can post you some interesting stuff that would make your head spin. 

 

The B.C liberals are actually the total BS garbage party.

what? she sure wasn't. And she's no longer in politics. 

 

They were a weird mix of centrists and right wingers, not sure what they are now under Wilkinson, other than the group the NDP will defeat in the next election. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

what? she sure wasn't. And she's no longer in politics. 

 

They were a weird mix of centrists and right wingers, not sure what they are now under Wilkinson, other than the group the NDP will defeat in the next election. 

 

 

She is a liberal, not a BC liberal just a liberal.

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11 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Obama added more debt than any other U.S President. What did you say about speaking out against debt? You constantly praise and support Obama and Trudeau, they are the kings of debt.

 

You also support the B.C NDp who doubled B.Cs debt in the 90s.

When anyone mumbles how Obama increased the debt then defends Harper for increasing the debt I shake my head

 

I also chuckle when people bring up the 90s and claim one government did something.  When the truth is across Canada NAFTA cost hundreds of thousands of jobs in the 90s.  As well.  The NDP left BC with an actual budget surplus when they left office 

 

I've linked these and more to you numerous times and you never EVER read them.  Ignorance is bliss I guess

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/gabriel-yiu/bc-ndp-lost-decade_b_16252392.html

http://commonsensecanadian.ca/rafe-mair-liberal-myths-ndp-distort-bcs-political-history/

 

11 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Can you provide a post that backs that up?

I love when you're to lazy to look for yourself even though it only takes a few keystrokes.  Proves you know when you're wrong and just want someone to do the work for you

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/consumer-credit

 

11 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Global recession?

Intentionally misreading the comment to ensure you don't have to answer.

 

Who created the artificially low interest rates in canada over the last 10 years which has lead to historical rates of consumer debt Strome?

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11 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Until they expand pipeline capacity and get at least one more crossing over the Fraser for moving goods, it is all fluff and butterflies from anyone looking from outside your ivory tower.

A mutli billion dollar hydro project isn't enough money spent for you?

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8 minutes ago, gurn said:

A mutli billion dollar hydro project isn't enough money spent for you?

It doesn't help the gridlock you have near Vancouver nor does it assist in moving Canadian goods to market.   It should help your electrical grid needs for the future in a renewal/green manner but was the least impactful major project in terms of assisting BC/Canadian economy.   

 

PS - this isn't for me, it is for all of you in BC and people across Canada who need to have our export portals open for business as Canada is not able to live in bubble.   Importing fossil fuels into Canada when most of Canada's need can be developed internally (and with much less impact on the global environment) is not logical.   Having traffic gridlock for the movement of goods and services is not logical.

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11 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

New Patulla Bridge...

 

 

7 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

t doesn't help the gridlock you have near Vancouver nor does it assist in moving Canadian goods to market

New Patulla bridge will help move product and people.

 

Edit to add- where do they get the money to build all you seem to want built?

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2 minutes ago, gurn said:

 

New Patulla bridge will help move product and people.

 

Edit to add- where do they get the money to build all you seem to want built?

Strong economies create taxation revenue that can pay for infrastructure.    I have no idea what Patulla Bridge is but if that is the one to get rid of your tunnel near airport that is excellent step!   

 

You need to stop spending money on things people need to do for themselves and spend  money on what governments should do - shared infrastructure/services that are best funded collectively for everyone's use.   Further, providing services for those who cannot take care of themselves is essential for a caring society but there are so many who simply seem to refuse to work - put them to work.   Stop the mentality that has people serving coffee expecting same wage as teachers/nurses and so forth.

 

The money can be there from changing priorities and once the infrastructure is in place and gets things flowing, the revenues will also rebound. 

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