RUPERTKBD Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: No I'm not. I also don't think many Canadians are including the PM. Like JT said Mr Harper is a private citizen. I think the only one making something out of this might be you. Remember that interview Ignatieff gave where he claimed at some point Quebec will separate? Oh guess it doesn't matter there was a interim leader between him and JT. Btw in your earlier post you forgot about Rona Ambrose. Actually, since I began this by quoting an article from the Toronto Star, I doubt that I'm the only one. And I doubt very many remember anything about Ignatieff, (other than he didn't actually live in Canada for quite a while) but I bet a lot of people remember Harper's participation in that NYT ad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: So glad to see the liberal party behind trans mountain expansion. Which helps the younger kids a heck of a lot more than us older, retired folk. I would like to see PM Trudeau be more like his father, take charge, and be a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Alflives said: Which helps the younger kids a heck of a lot more than us older, retired folk. I would like to see PM Trudeau be more like his father, take charge, and be a leader. I don't think a Bitumen spill and / or global warming is really any benefit to younger canadians..... Unless you think increased sun tanning opportunities in Canada ... growing warm climate crops in northern canada..... is great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: I don't think a Bitumen spill and / or global warming is really any benefit to younger canadians..... Unless you think increased sun tanning opportunities in Canada ... growing warm climate crops in northern canada..... is great news. Well with climate change, for northern countries like us, does come prolonged growing seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 46 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Actually, since I began this by quoting an article from the Toronto Star, I doubt that I'm the only one. And I doubt very many remember anything about Ignatieff, (other than he didn't actually live in Canada for quite a while) but I bet a lot of people remember Harper's participation in that NYT ad... I'm still wondering How Ignatieff isn't Trudeaus predecessor but Harper is Scheers "immediate predecessor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: I'm still wondering How Ignatieff isn't Trudeaus predecessor but Harper is Scheers "immediate predecessor." Because Iggy was a loser and was only a party leader for a very short time. Where as Scheer was speaker of the house, Harpers left hand man in the parliament and is his direct predecessor. Because Harper has spoken out for Scheer, but Iggy hasn't once spoken out for golden boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Because Iggy was a loser and was only a party leader for a very short time. Where as Scheer was speaker of the house, Harpers left hand man in the parliament and is his direct predecessor. Because Harper has spoken out for Scheer, but Iggy hasn't once spoken out for golden boy. I'm not convinced you understand what predecessor means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I'm not convinced you understand what predecessor means. I'm not convinced you're one to be pointing out the possibility that people are unaware of what they're saying. Predecessor literally means someone who held office or position beforehand. Do you know what relevant means? Closely connected or appropriate to what is being considered. When you consider that Iggy was a loser and JR is the PM, it is far less relevant than the previous PM speaking out for Scheer who is hoping to be the new PM. You're trying to equate the two. That is the equivalent of Mulcair speaking out for Singh. Nobody cares because they are both losers who will never win anything 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whorvat Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 In terms of leading the Liberal party of Canada, Ignatieff was the predecessor of Justin Trudeau. How hard is that to grasp? Just like Stephane Dion was the predecessor of Ignatieff, and so on. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: I'm not convinced you're one to be pointing out the possibility that people are unaware of what they're saying. Predecessor literally means someone who held office or position beforehand. Do you know what relevant means? Closely connected or appropriate to what is being considered. When you consider that Iggy was a loser and JR is the PM, it is far less relevant than the previous PM speaking out for Scheer who is hoping to be the new PM. You're trying to equate the two. That is the equivalent of Mulcair speaking out for Singh. Nobody cares because they are both losers who will never win anything Lol Maybe read the conversation and touch up on the meaning of predecessor, you should know it you just said the meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Lol Maybe read the conversation and touch up on the meaning of predecessor, you should know it you just said the meaning. I'm just pointing out why the argument is relevant. Relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I'm just pointing out why the argument is relevant. Relevant It doesn't matter what Harper thinks even JT said the same thing. Everyone knows Harper hated Iran, he kept the sanctions going even after the U.S and Europe lifted them. Just like Ignatieff, Dion or Chretiens views and opinions don't matter to this government. JT's own dad would be furious to see corporate taxes at 14% but JT vowed to keep them low. Chretien and P. Trudeau had a very close relationship however during the Quebec referendum Chretien asked Trudeau to stay silent and play no role during the referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Has the story of him groping a reporter 18 years ago gotten much air time? BBC linked into a story by National Post that included this from a local paper in BC in 2000. Like Father like Son? Edited June 24, 2018 by Rob_Zepp forgot to add link...forgot that drives some people nuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 20 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: Has the story of him groping a reporter 18 years ago gotten much air time? BBC linked into a story by National Post that included this from a local paper in BC in 2000. Like Father like Son? Peoplekind groping 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Shhhhhhhh http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/trudeau-zero-tolerance-1.4723664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, riffraff said: Shhhhhhhh http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/trudeau-zero-tolerance-1.4723664 This is where I will end up smiling at the idiocy of it all. 18 years ago a drunken Trudeau may or may not have gotten handsy with a lady. If true it is disgusting. Not even a decade ago the Conservative party leader was openly against the LGBTQ community, against abortion, made vitriolic statements about other religions. So. where will the outrage fall? And how fast will one side claim the other is gross without remembering their own sides foibles? Let's watch 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Warhippy said: This is where I will end up smiling at the idiocy of it all. 18 years ago a drunken Trudeau may or may not have gotten handsy with a lady. If true it is disgusting. Not even a decade ago the Conservative party leader was openly against the LGBTQ community, against abortion, made vitriolic statements about other religions. So. where will the outrage fall? And how fast will one side claim the other is gross without remembering their own sides foibles? Let's watch You love your whataboutisms eh? You complain about them but constantly do it more than anyone on here. Again I told you this before which you didn't respond to. The CPC is calling on the government to bring in more LGBTQ people from countries where these people are treated terribly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: You love your whataboutisms eh? You complain about them but constantly do it more than anyone on here. Again I told you this before which you didn't respond to. The CPC is calling on the government to bring in more LGBTQ people from countries where these people are treated terribly. What exactly am I saying what about too? I'm pointing out the obvious and you're proving me right You're kinda proving my point perfectly here. People will ignore the evils of their pony so they can point their fingers at another in the race. Trudeau flopped on a great deal of campaign promises and has shown himself to be Harper light. Scheer is promising to turn his back on his entire belief system and religion for what? Trudeau possibly mishandled a woman. Ok Scheer is essentially a closeted bigot. Ok So spin the wheel of rhetoric and tell us which one is worse based on your political leaning. Oh and in case you missed it, here is Scheer's voting record That record includes votes against bills to legalize gay marriage, enshrine human rights protections for transgender people, and to allow physician-assisted dying. Scheer has also voted in favour of legislation that would re-define when, during pregnancy, a fetus is considered a human being and to criminalize sex work. Edited June 28, 2018 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 21 hours ago, Warhippy said: This is where I will end up smiling at the idiocy of it all. 18 years ago a drunken Trudeau may or may not have gotten handsy with a lady. If true it is disgusting. Not even a decade ago the Conservative party leader was openly against the LGBTQ community, against abortion, made vitriolic statements about other religions. So. where will the outrage fall? And how fast will one side claim the other is gross without remembering their own sides foibles? Let's watch Should be everywhere. A lecherous creep is a creep no matter political stripe. Just finding it odd that this has been so quiet because it seems so hypocritical of him if it is true (and the account sure seems to have a lot of credibility to it). Trying to compare it off to "the Conservative leader" or anyone else is not a deflection that holds water. It is same thing Trump supporters do. You are above that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) On 6/23/2018 at 7:49 PM, Rob_Zepp said: Has the story of him groping a reporter 18 years ago gotten much air time? BBC linked into a story by National Post that included this from a local paper in BC in 2000. Like Father like Son? its not clear what actually happened, and thats part of the problem. It should be investigated as to exactly what happened. Are we talking about a hand on a shoulder? a hug? something far worse? the paper's editor used the word "grope" but thats not evidence of anything. I'm sure the reporter remembers it well, hopefully she'll come forward and say what actually happened. She should be able to do it anonymously as well imo, I'm sure that could be arranged in some way. Edited June 28, 2018 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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