canuktravella Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 soo i think sedin era has run its course. At deadline trader jim should ask sedins, edler to waive no trades next few weeks guddy to devils for pavel zacha at deadline sutter for 1st edler to tampa for koekkoek and a 2nd sedins go east to devils for 1st 2nd and cap dumps clowe and dalton prout cntracts over this yr vanek for late 1st (pens, caps, bruins, nashville) any contender looking for pp offense baer and hutton in a package for a shutdown hardnose a plus 4th line center resign vanek and jagr in summer jagr last yr can show youngsters how to be pro offer jagr a player development job after next yr as incentive. sooo with all extra picks fund bunch of gems or get lucky win lotto draft dahlen roster next vanek zacha boeser petersson bo goldobin virtanen gaudette jagr granny shutdown young c eriksson gaunce juolevi (dahlen) if we get lucky pouliot tanev del zotto stecher koekkoek biega marky/nills/demko fight for starter job at training camp fast offensive young team yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skolozsy2 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Sounds like you've got NHL18 GM mode set on the "easy" level. I don't see any of those returns happening. Might as well just trade Markstrom for 1st too while you're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, skolozsy2 said: Sounds like you've got NHL18 GM mode set on the "easy" level. I don't see any of those returns happening. Might as well just trade Markstrom for 1st too while you're at it. vanek can get us a first if he keeps this up. guddy has value we arent giving assets away for free at deadline people pay big prices for garbage vets cant tell me hanzal getting two 2nds last yr wasnt overpayment. sutter has 3 yrs of term left decent 3rd liner cant tell me we can t get any teams buying our vets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skolozsy2 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 27 minutes ago, canuktravella said: vanek can get us a first if he keeps this up. guddy has value we arent giving assets away for free at deadline people pay big prices for garbage vets cant tell me hanzal getting two 2nds last yr wasnt overpayment. sutter has 3 yrs of term left decent 3rd liner cant tell me we can t get any teams buying our vets Will teams be willing to buy Canucks players....of course. But other teams are going to be selling off pieces too. If the prices are too high for the Canucks players, buyers will just move on to a different dance partner, i.e Hamhuis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 i'ld be more interested in how many of our young guys can make this team next year, and who we'll need to tide us over till they are ready. maybe next year, a bo, boeser, vanek line, might be gold. granlund, sutter and ericksson is a great shut down line. that leaves, baertschi, the sedins, gagner, virtanen, goldobin, gaunce, dowd, gaudette, pettersson, dahlen, lind, gadjovich and lockwood. it would be great if the swedes, gaudette, gadj and lind can make the team but they shouldn't be rushed. there is more that goes into building a team than just selling off vets and accumulating young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 5 hours ago, canuktravella said: soo i think sedin era has run its course. At deadline trader jim should ask sedins, edler to waive no trades That is never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420BEAR Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 ...So you want to get rid of the Sedins because "they've run their course" but then turn around and sign jagr, to show the youngsters how to be pros? People seem to forget that Jagr was once viewed as the most selfish player in the league, after he bolted to the KHL for a paycheck.(while in his prime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I like the optimism of the possible returns on these assets, but this is some serious, serious over valuation of their worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 56 minutes ago, 420BEAR said: ...So you want to get rid of the Sedins because "they've run their course" but then turn around and sign jagr, to show the youngsters how to be pros? People seem to forget that Jagr was once viewed as the most selfish player in the league, after he bolted to the KHL for a paycheck.(while in his prime) ya hes so selfish that he helped all the panther rookies be pros and put up 50 points at 44 and hes all time number two in scoring ya that legend whos a champ . sorry sedins arent jagr they should retire just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, goalie13 said: That is never going to happen. people waive ntc all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 hours ago, skolozsy2 said: Will teams be willing to buy Canucks players....of course. But other teams are going to be selling off pieces too. If the prices are too high for the Canucks players, buyers will just move on to a different dance partner, i.e Hamhuis. guess thats the risk we have to take ehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 Easy Steps - How to Rebuild the Canucks into a Cup Contender in One Year. Dreaming is fun. The Sedins will retire before they waive. They will not play for another team. Management loves Edler, so I'm going to assume he's also re-signed and is a Canucks Lifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I agree that Vanek could possibly get us a late 1st if he keeps playing this way, and considering his affordable 2 million contract and lack of NTC. We might have to throw in another lower range prospect or later round draft pick though to bring up value. On a lot of the proposal though, I agree that it looks like you had NHL 18 set in easy mode Not that easy to do trades these days, with NTC's and all the salary cap issues to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, canuktravella said: ya hes so selfish that he helped all the panther rookies be pros and put up 50 points at 44 and hes all time number two in scoring ya that legend whos a champ . sorry sedins arent jagr they should retire just my opinion Jagr is worse than the Sedins at this point and means little to Vancouver. Your logic could hardly make less sense. You want Jagr for veteran leadership, when he's clearly spent all his offensive skill, but then you turn around to say that the Sedins have spent all that they have. The Sedins provide the same veteran leadership that Jagr would and are currently better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, canuktravella said: guess thats the risk we have to take ehh risk? the risk is that you overvalue assets and no one bites so the real risk is that this is all just a plain waste of time good job though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 10 hours ago, skolozsy2 said: Sounds like you've got NHL18 GM mode set on the "easy" level. I don't see any of those returns happening. Might as well just trade Markstrom for 1st too while you're at it. That's every trade this guy proposes. 11 hours ago, canuktravella said: next few weeks guddy to devils for pavel zacha at deadline sutter for 1st edler to tampa for koekkoek and a 2nd sedins go east to devils for 1st 2nd and cap dumps clowe and dalton prout cntracts over this yr vanek for late 1st (pens, caps, bruins, nashville) any contender looking for pp offense baer and hutton in a package for a shutdown hardnose a plus 4th line center HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....................................... .........................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, goalie13 said: That is never going to happen. Agreed, no way Benning could do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, canuktravella said: people waive ntc all the time We're not talking about random people. We're talking about the Sedins. Benning will not ever ask them to waive, they will not ask to be traded. I think trade proposals are nonsense at the best of time, but including the Sedins in one is just ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 So let's explore 22 and 33 in depth which I am sure has been done. Let's say they do waive, a)who do they waive to, b)what comes back; and c) do they go together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, -AJ- said: Jagr is worse than the Sedins at this point and means little to Vancouver. Your logic could hardly make less sense. You want Jagr for veteran leadership, when he's clearly spent all his offensive skill, but then you turn around to say that the Sedins have spent all that they have. The Sedins provide the same veteran leadership that Jagr would and are currently better players. clearly we disagree jagr is a legend that can teach youngsters how to win and yea sedins have never been as good as jagr they are decent players but they havent done anything close to jagr has in his career 2 cups hart art ross 2nd all time point getter who took 4 yrs off nhl with khl and nhl lockouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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