Ray_Cathode Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, D-Money said: Anybody who actually believes that there should be no minimum wage and that a free market would be fair to general society has their head in the clouds (or up somewhere else). Guess what? Left to their own devices, the rich and wealthy will screw you over in any legally possible way (and if they can get away with it, illegally too). I know people have been conditioned to look down on things like minimum wage and unions, but go ahead and look back at working conditions for the average person before these were common. Or, go somewhere like India, where the rich are generally free to exploit the masses as they see fit. In general, it works great for a few, and leads to a life-sucking existence for the vast majority. Um, yeah, there is here in Canada, along with pretty much every 1st world country. Why don’t you tell me what you think an individual right is? Define it, then we will both no what you are talking about when you claim a guaranteed minimum wage as a right. Secondly, you might want to point out to me where in the charter a minimum wage is guaranteed. Thirdly, insults are not arguments, they simply illustrate a person’s complete lack of the ability to make a rational argument - ad hominem attacks are simple logical fallacies employed by the arrogantly ignorant. The source of higher wages is not government fiat, it is increased productivity. Ever wonder why some jobs garner higher wages than others, it isn’t because some employers are more generous to some professions than others, it is because some talents, and levels of ability are more in demand than others. Oil companies pay more for petroleum engineers than they pay for janitors because they HAVE to. The free market requires businesses to bid up the price paid for the quality people they need - it is not charity, it is supply and demand that drives up wages. Successful businesses are always on the lookout for talent, that is why headhunting firms exist, it is why businesses advertise for employees, and why in non-unionized firms wages are often stratified, even among people doing ostensibly the same job. Most people that make more money do so because their skill is in demand. If you are not making what you think you should, then maybe your first step is to look in a mirror. No, the rich and the wealthy are unlikely to give you anything, why should they? Are you willing to pay $20 bucks for a ten dollar burger? People who have earned their wealth are usually very good at getting value for a buck, but when they see a value, they see an opportunity and are willing to pay for it - the rich didn’t get rich by letting opportunities go to waste. And you always have the right to create your own job instead of whining about what other people won’t give you. If you want more, work for it, create something of value, get off your donkey. You are right that ‘average’ people don’t make millions waiting around for somebody to give them what that party has worked for. It is extraordinary people who do well at anything, whether it is for money, or just the satisfaction of doing something well. Being envious and resentful will earn you little, if you want more, do something of value to others. If you want to be loved, be a person who loves; if you want to be rich, be a person who produces wealth, if you want to be happy, find a way to do what you love to do for a living - but it won’t be easy, you’ll have to work hard to be good at something worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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